MACH50, what's the point in making a Shogun run at 130Kmph? I wonder if that is at all achievable, and that too might be for a fraction of a second.

Even a Maruti 800 struggles to keep steady at 130Kmph! My Opel Astra with a 1600cc under the hood can cruise @130Kmph, but that is a lot of speed. Whenever I touch such speed on highways in that tank like built cage, I always wonder, how 110cc/135cc touch or cruise at any speed above 100Kmph. With such a lean mass of 100cc bikes, the bike will literally loose its road grip.

I do not want to start any debate on claimed top ends here, but in my opinion any bike in the 100/135 cc segment, would deliver a complete unsafe and unstable ride for any speed greater than 100Kmph.

Whatever mods you do, consider the rest of the stuffs ON the bike too, including you.

+1 to that

@yamdoot:lets not be sarcastic about this,Sat went light heartedly about this,I too went light heartedly,we are cool.
Someone maybe proud owner of a Hayabusa or R1
Someone maybe proud owner of a Shaolin or RX135
Someone maybe proud owner of a RD350 or a Comet250 or the Ninja 250.........
I maybe a proud owner of a Shogun and someone may also be the proud of a Wind too........but I dont think it requires mention,every bike has character to be proud of........and I didnt laughed about it,we were talking our cool way.Its different that the love that I reserve for my Shogun may sound a little high revving at times,so please don't be uneasy about that brothers.

@Swingarm:Its just my creative mission to make my bike go 130kmph,everyone can pull stuffs on their bikes,I too oblige to do so,but with respect for my bike.I am also thankful for your concern over the fact that the Shogun maybe highly unstable at that speed,so I am working on the tyres,front forks and swingarm too.A beefed up Shogun will look better and handle better power,so that when I need it,it can really drop the jaws of on-lookers

If I intend to do any build on the Shaolin I am planning to purchase, then it will be for gut-wrenching acceleration upto about 90, then a top of max 105.

But then everybody has their own preferences.

That is what makes like interesting. Also, for the academic interest of other 2T brothers, Mach50 is built like a tank (HEAVYWEIGHT) so he will manage to keep the Shogun grounded.

Nothing matches experimenting with your machine. I am ready to be the first one to drop my jaws when you are done.

I know a few deserted drag stretches in Rajarhat township, just in case you need one.

mach50 : man you are hopeless any way follow the link and go the alan millyard way (its a beefed up samurai(super samurai) ) if you have not seen this before

The Double Barrel of Hope : AX-200 twin - Team-BHP

mods please excuse if this is inappropriate

Wow! That Samurai proves that insanity will triumph over sense every time. That is one incredible mod job.

Anyone heard of an RX converted to run an electric starter? Preferably on the 135. Any inputs from fellow 2T fanatics will be helpful.

I actually heard about this guy who owns a drag spec 135 (the bike was featured in BS Motoring), who has one other street modded 135 which has a self start. This guy stays in Bombay, if that helps in any way.

Till next time, happy smokin'

My mech once told me he plonked in an electric starter on an rx...I guess he used a tvs scooty bell or something of that nature..Not very sure though

What do you mean ????
A 28Bhp Shogun !!!! and with space for mods too
I have to really look forward for this mod,where are its details man ???

The Samurai mod is over a year old. I just love it but its not a performance mod. the crank wont be able to take it.

anyways,i am gonna keep my bike simple...........
That would be an overmod,even if I do it,it would be difficult to maintain the bike and its originality(engine Compression,torque and bhp would definitely change) over the years,and would also be hectic and time consuming in an era when its all over for 2Ts.

So lets appreciate and rest it

I really dont understand why are you so against mods??. Everybody is free to do the mods as per their liking. If the barrel work is done to perfection with good amount & quality of 2-T oil flow with supporting crank+con rod, even crusing at 120Kmph (Atleast) is possible for many minutes.

How much do you think my RX135 5-speed weighs?. It would just be around the 100Kg mark. Even when doing the top speed on highways, there is no vibration.

I also do 140Kmph++ on my Esteem with ease, the flow is just effortless. And dont speak about the CC here, coz at the end of the day it is the BHP which matters & i am quite sure my 1300CC Esteem churns out way more horses than your 1600CC Astra.

Its better you dont start any debate here, coz there are hell lot of speed freaks here in xbhp, yours truely included.

Modifications & speed driving is not for weak hearted. If you got the guts only then try it. This truely is a Man's game.

Nothing personal here mate, but just out with my view points, just like you did.

Lets maintain some peace & let help the guys who really want to do some good mods on their 2-T machines.

- Karthik..

post up a dyno curve and then we can talk mate.




hold your horses karthik bhai..your posts mostly sound like some sort of propaganda rather than some sort of discussion. Try to post without spoiling the feel good of the 2 stroke section mate. Every time i read your posts it feels like you're trying to go against someone or the other to put your points across. Try and avoid that, and you will be respected. Everyone mostly goes "lol" everytime we read more of such online post using threatening language/tone. Lets all try and stay humble like good old humble 2 strokes now, shall we? We already have other forums to show egos and look down upon people. Not here


Cheers

Atul H

Karthik,

Lets not talk about 4Ws here. Lets also not compare a Esteem and Astra in any aspect. My rally prep Esteem, finds it hard to cope up with my Astra and I guess you are talking stock here.

Secondly, I am not against mods. A lot of guys in here are into circuit and racing who do some state of the art mods. I happen to know personally a few guys in here who do excellent 2 Stroke Mods. That was not my point.

If you read my post correctly and between the lines, you will find I have mentioned riding, a 100cc bike with speeds greater than 100kmph on roads or public roads, is unsafe. Now if you think it's safe thats your view.

There are places to show these guts. Being into 4W rallying, I know exactly how it feels to modify and speed drive. But there are certain norms for it. And of course, you do not type in a forum, you just have to go out and participate. As for me if you ask me all sports reqruire 1 ball. Motorsports require 2 balls. So yes, you are right that ways. But if you are not participating and showing your "guts" in the improper place, you will be treated as a "menace" on roads.

Know what I mean?

Back to your Esteem. This is a video of a start from my rallying (I do not drive anymore, I navigate only. The Esteem that you will be seeing in the video is a rally preped one, with custom headers etc (not going into details). It severly fails to cope up with my Astra. Infact, if you happen to know what Overdrive is, Astra is one to have a perfect one.


The Start:
YouTube - DSCN1195

Setting Odo and flying away:





Lets discuss some more Bhp, speed driving, mods and balls here mate.

I am posting this because of Esteem,
Suzuki Esteem makes 85bhp@6000rpms
Opel Astra makes 76.5bhp@5400rpms..................
Thats why Karthik said that his 1.3L Esteem churns out more horses than the 1.6L Astra.
Also Esteem is the lighter of the two,so more Power/Weight ratio.
To this end Karthik is alright about the fact that "i am quite sure my 1300CC Esteem churns out way more horses than your 1600CC Astra."

But yes,he was aggressive in the way he put his point through especially for someone as cool as our Swingarm.............maybe Karthik also goes high revving and noise making like 2ts,so lets rest it of cars and attitude. and cool down

And get down to what we are best at.........smoking