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  • Originally posted by revvhard View Post
    the carb was cleaned, the oil was changed and also my brother got the oil pump checked to see if it functions....

    the mechanic he got it done from is not that well knowledged about carb tuning and also the lack of a speedo and rpm meter console on the bike doesnt help.......

    so should i tighten the air screw all the way in and then turn it 1-1/2 turns or from where it is now???

    sry if i'm buggin you but i am clueless about two strokes and the only experience i have in carb tuning is on my friends apace with the help of the rpm meter
    I willtry to simplify it as much as possible.

    Lets assume everything else is in perfect order.
    Gently tighten the air acrew clockwise till it seats lightly. DO NOT overtighten.

    Before doing this, Raise the engine RPMs so that the engine doesnt stall when the airscrew is fully inside.

    Now turn the airscrew anticlock wise slowly by 1/4 turns till you feel the engine RPMs rise as you come out.

    This should be at about 1-1/2 turns from fully seated. This is where you stop. Any further turns will make the RPMs fall again.

    Readjust the idle speed by adjusting the idle screw. [ As it does not have a RPM meter you need to do it by listening to the engine sound] .
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    1989 Ki-Honda 110
    1994 Suzuki Shogun
    1997 Yamaha RX135
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    • thank you so much sir...thats a really amazing collection of yamaha's you have there,i'm gonna get to the card right away!!!!
      Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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      • Originally posted by revvhard View Post
        sry if i'm buggin you but i am clueless about two strokes and the only experience i have in carb tuning is on my friends apace with the help of the rpm meter
        I strongly suggest you get a help of a experienced mech for cleaning and tuning the carb. If you tune it too lean, you may end up damaging cylinder/piston. Not trying to scare you but I feel its better to not take chances with RXs, spares of which are scarce.
        A lone amateur built the ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic...

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        • maybe on the 1st after i get my pocket money i'l take it to a tuner, for now i think i'l just admire her in the parking dont want anything at all to happen to her.
          Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride!' -Hunter S. Thompson

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          • Originally posted by revvhard View Post
            hey guys, didnt know wer to ask about this so am asking here.....just 15minutes back i was handed over my cousin's rx135 4 speed and man i've fallen in love with her immediately....but i have noticed that the bike takes quite some time to decelerate,
            is this normal,this is my first 2stroker so dont hav much knowledge about it, i think the carb tuning is not right,how many turns should the air fuel screw be at from fully tightened??? the bike is completely stock
            experts your help would be verry appreciated


            I think what u mean by "time to decelerate" is the time it takes for the bike to slow down after u close the throttle (let the accelerator grip spring shut) .... This is normal for a 2-stroke.


            A two stroke has very little in terms of engine braking as compared to a 4-stroke as there is a power stroke every revolution .... Get used to it.

            The thing that u need to learn is how and where to refill the 2T oil in the tank .... and the difference between 2T oil and Gearbox oil

            Have seen many a bike ruined by the lack of that knowledge.

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            • Originally posted by sixspeedtwin View Post
              Yes I heard that non-sense of "Special Edition" RXZs too was laughing my a** off for an hour.

              But I have heard of stock rxz 5 speeds fetch Rs 70k in Bangy .... May be true!!
              Ya..I remember telling you Alok about that...Pheww....I've been taken for various jolly rides most of the times when the owners swear on what they say...

              Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
              Come back to B'lore ram. We can have a good time.
              Let me try & get a Job & shift my family Karthik....Bangy..two Strokes...Wow...! What a life to live....!

              Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
              I was just asking kidney, not your heart (RX135). I am sure you can donate it !!!!!!! My RX-Z project is on hold because of your Kidney.
              Must be extra careful now....!

              Originally posted by revvhard View Post
              hey guys, didnt know wer to ask about this so am asking here.....just 15minutes back i was handed over my cousin's rx135 4 speed and man i've fallen in love with her immediately....but i have noticed that the bike takes quite some time to decelerate,
              is this normal,this is my first 2stroker so dont hav much knowledge about it, i think the carb tuning is not right,how many turns should the air fuel screw be at from fully tightened??? the bike is completely stock
              experts your help would be verry appreciated
              First of all congrtas on the bike...! Have you got it for a life time or just for a small time? If it's option no.1, u've been one of the lucky rascals around As Alok & Nitesh Sir said, two strokes have very less engine braking when compared to the 4's & the feel is totally different when shifting from a 4s. As for the carb, pls. get a good carb cleaner like "Cyclo Carb Cleaner" or anything which works & spray it on the dismantled carb, make sure it is clean up to the emulsion tube & put it back together. Pls. avoid spraying on the rubber gasket parts, which if weak will give you a carb that leaks added to the non availability of spares will make you go nuts. If getting the carb out is a problem you can follow what our fellow contributing member Bigbore aka Arun suggested me that worked, open the rubber manifold that attached to the air filter, now start the engine open the throttle slightly & spray the carb cleaner into the carb intake...Make sure you don't over do it, just gentle enough to clean the residue. Pls. make sure you carry this out in a clean environmental space as you don't want more dust to clog into the jets. Pls. follow the seniors advice as they know much better than i do...!

              Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
              You need to do more than adjust the sir screw. Clean the carb insides nicely, see that the slide is moving up and down freely, put in new air filter, replace the plug, check the carb manifold- replace it if it has minute cracks or if its too old. Finally adjust the carb tuning and sir screw at 1-1/2 turns anticlockwise. Try these and report back.
              A quick question Nitesh sir, my Air screw setting is little more than 1.5 turns, the bike runs pretty fine. Is that okay??

              Originally posted by revvhard View Post
              got it done from mechanic as he is not that well knowledged about carb tuning and also the lack of a speedo and rpm meter console on the bike doesnt help.......

              so should i tighten the air screw all the way in and then turn it 1-1/2 turns or from where it is now???

              sry if i'm buggin you but i am clueless about two strokes and the only experience i have in carb tuning is on my friends apace with the help of the rpm meter
              Just try getting your hands dirty & start learning the basics like carb cleaning, tuning, oil pump adjustments, spark plug cleaning, Spark plug gap measurement, chain adjustment & so...You never know all this will come very handy when you're left nowhere in the middle of a highway alone...!

              Btw. I would say you don't need an RPM meter at all for tuning & there was none during the early days for the same. People get used to the sound & graduate it from there...Don't worry, you shall get used to it soon..!

              Pls. don't adjust Airscrew from the current position. Close it to the carb on clockwise fully & then open it out to 1.2-1.5 turns as required.


              Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
              I strongly suggest you get a help of a experienced mech for cleaning and tuning the carb. If you tune it too lean, you may end up damaging cylinder/piston. Not trying to scare you but I feel its better to not take chances with RXs, spares of which are scarce.
              @ Revhard, good point what Nitin has pointed out. One way to check to see if you're running way too lean without removing the spark plug is by seeing how much heat the head generates. Simple, just after a ride splash some 2-3 drops of water on the head and see how it evaporates. If instantly vanishes, you're running too lean & u'll get into trouble. It should vapour off gradually...! Another place to test the same is the exhaust manifold.

              Originally posted by sixspeedtwin View Post
              The thing that u need to learn is how and where to refill the 2T oil in the tank .... and the difference between 2T oil and Gearbox oil
              Have seen many a bike ruined by the lack of that knowledge.
              +100...!
              Last edited by dual disc 200; 09-30-2011, 12:21 PM. Reason: spell chk
              Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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              • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post

                Let me try & get a Job & shift my family Karthik....Bangy..two Strokes...Wow...! What a life to live....!
                I dont think getting a job in B'lore is that tough.



                Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
                Must be extra careful now....!


                LOL........ Btw Ram i wanted to ask, which bike were you riding before this 135? And do you still have any other bikes?
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                • Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                  I dont think getting a job in B'lore is that tough.
                  Media Industry is a little harder than the others Karthik...!
                  Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                  LOL........ Btw Ram i wanted to ask, which bike were you riding before this 135? And do you still have any other bikes?
                  Ok, here comes the most embarrassing things.... I was riding a P-220 FI & P-200 before. Gave the latter one to my cousin & sold the FI for the current love affair with the Rx. My daily commuter is more or less the 135 backed with a highly guarded security both in home as well as office complex. My other humble ones are Super Splendor, Hero EZ ( 2 Stroke Scootrette 80cc), HH Plesure (Wifey) & a Dio on the way soon which will hit my 135 in my bed room & for week end rides...
                  Last edited by dual disc 200; 09-30-2011, 01:06 PM. Reason: spell chk
                  Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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                  • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post

                    Ok, here comes the most embarrassing things.... I was riding a P-220 FI & P-200 before. Gave the latter one to my cousin & sold the FI for the current love affair with the Rx. My daily commuter is more or less the 135 backed with a highly guarded security both in home as well as office complex. My other humble ones are Super Splendor, Hero EZ ( 2 Stroke Scootrette 80cc), HH Plesure (Wifey) & a Dio on the way soon which will hit my 135 in my bed room & for week end rides...
                    Hero EZ, never heard of it man. Had seen Hero Winner, but not this one.

                    Can you post some realistic top speed figures of P200 & P220.

                    And please do comment on that Shougun HIgh speed Problem thread if you like.

                    Thanks.
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                    • Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                      Hero EZ, never heard of it man. Had seen Hero Winner, but not this one.

                      Can you post some realistic top speed figures of P200 & P220.

                      And please do comment on that Shougun HIgh speed Problem thread if you like.

                      Thanks.
                      Ok, it is the downsized wheel version of the Winner... Here's a small pic that i found in the net..Mine is a grey color one, will post the pics sometime...

                      With regarding the Top Speed figures of 220 & 200, I guess the realistic would be 115-120 for the 220 & something like 105-110 for the 200. But i must also admit that the 220 had oodles of torque that the 200 missed big time and also the FI helped me a lot in touring, basically not giving me the headache of the AFR problems...!
                      Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

                      The 5 Speed Restoration
                      The Z Restoration


                      /2001 Yamaha Rx 135 5 Speed/ 1999 Yamaha RXZ 135/ 2012 Honda Dio/ ?

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                      • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post
                        Ok, it is the downsized wheel version of the Winner... Here's a small pic that i found in the net..Mine is a grey color one, will post the pics sometime...

                        With regarding the Top Speed figures of 220 & 200, I guess the realistic would be 115-120 for the 220 & something like 105-110 for the 200. But i must also admit that the 220 had oodles of torque that the 200 missed big time and also the FI helped me a lot in touring, basically not giving me the headache of the AFR problems...!
                        Thanks for the info ram. May i ask if you are aware of the coimbatore drag results held recently?
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                        • Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post

                          A quick question Nitesh sir, my Air screw setting is little more than 1.5 turns, the bike runs pretty fine. Is that okay??



                          +100...!

                          Yes its okay. It would matter only if you are more than 2 turns out.
                          1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                          1989 Ki-Honda 110
                          1994 Suzuki Shogun
                          1997 Yamaha RX135
                          2008 Yamaha FZ
                          Suzuki Supra Powerup
                          IND-SUZUKI AX100
                          Hero IMPULSE
                          TVS NTORQ


                          No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                          • Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
                            Thanks for the info ram. May i ask if you are aware of the coimbatore drag results held recently?
                            Sorry Karthik, Couldn't make it due to personal commitments..not sure about the results too..!

                            Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
                            Yes its okay. It would matter only if you are more than 2 turns out.
                            Thank you sir..!
                            Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

                            The 5 Speed Restoration
                            The Z Restoration


                            /2001 Yamaha Rx 135 5 Speed/ 1999 Yamaha RXZ 135/ 2012 Honda Dio/ ?

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                            • Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
                              I strongly suggest you get a help of a experienced mech for cleaning and tuning the carb. If you tune it too lean, you may end up damaging cylinder/piston. Not trying to scare you but I feel its better to not take chances with RXs, spares of which are scarce.
                              Thats is how one never gets a chance to learn.
                              1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                              1989 Ki-Honda 110
                              1994 Suzuki Shogun
                              1997 Yamaha RX135
                              2008 Yamaha FZ
                              Suzuki Supra Powerup
                              IND-SUZUKI AX100
                              Hero IMPULSE
                              TVS NTORQ


                              No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                              • Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
                                Thats is how one never gets a chance to learn.
                                Doc, Nitin was just asking him to keep the consequences in mind.
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