Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[thehotheadedbeast]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

130 /90 ? really on stock wiring ? and stock holder ?

No. The earth is from old wiring while the mains is fetched by a separately installed high capacity wire and uses a relay to turn on/off. The holder/reflector are the ones fitted by company, no change was required in them.

Sorry for late reply.

[John P Daniel]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

No. The earth is from old wiring while the mains is fetched by a separately installed high capacity wire and uses a relay to turn on/off. The holder/reflector are the ones fitted by company, no change was required in them.

Sorry for late reply.

That's odd. Since my pulsar 180 ug4 couldn't handle 60/55w halogen on stock kit without changing pilots and number plate lights to led. I do intend to play around with rr to extract energy wasted as heat but stock setup can't handle more than 65-70w on headlight. Even at 5.5k rpm, low battery warning started flashing when stock pilots were used.

[joshdsy]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

It's quite likely not running at full output

[thehotheadedbeast]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

That's odd. Since my pulsar 180 ug4 couldn't handle 60/55w halogen on stock kit without changing pilots and number plate lights to led..

I already mentioned I am having a relay installed with separate high capacity wiring. No role of stock wiring.

[thehotheadedbeast]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

That's odd. Since my pulsar 180 ug4 couldn't handle 60/55w halogen on stock kit without changing pilots and number plate lights to led. I do intend to pl....

Will attack the photos while driving in night.

By the time.. the 130/90 watt bulb with stock holder and relay fitted under mask.

[Srinivas sr143sr]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hello team. I recently fitted an osram 130/90 watt bulb on my pulsar 150 ug 4.5. Working awesome.

Hi bro,

130/90 will burn the reflector for sure... even the glass will get faded very soon with that 130/90 bulb.. remove it soon.... I am 200% sure for it...!!!


I am currently using Philips OEM 60/55 w bulb in my UG2 bike (With AVY Stator and AVY RR)... even it is slighlty making its mark on the reflector(Newer gen Pulsar Headlamp).. But it is somewhat safe (For headlamp assembly) with 60/55watt and the holder will be able to handle its heat..


This is because our PULSAR Headlight assembly was Designed only to handle at Max 45-50w Lamp heat at maximum.... IM SAYING THIS OUT OF EXPERIENCE...!!!!


Other things are... as the load (130/90) bulb is more, the RR gets overloaded with work and will get failed soon enough... Im sure about it..!!! Want to know about the load..??? After you drive for a considerable amount of time with your 130/90 bulb on, try to touch (dont touch), go near the RR... it will be in high temp(due to over work load) than the normal when you are using 35watt lamp.....

By the way our bikes stock holder cant handle that bulb and was not designed to handle 130/90 bulb.. it will melt slowly in the process.. at the end it will become a total mess....

Relay and heavy wiring only makes sure that stock wiring, battery shorting and switches will not get affected with high transfer of power..!!!! They will not be able to help the Battery Drain, RR life, and off-course headlight assembly life..!!!

Better look for an alternative... Even the 60/55w puts extra load on RR...

Remove that bulb 130/90 bulb asap in whatever way you are using it...

Better go for 60/55... Enquire about Bajaj's V15 Regulator, as it is equipped with 60watts bulb stock.. It will be one of best options if you wish....

DONOT NEGLECT ON WHAT IM SAYING... I HAVE RESEARCHED AND ATTEMPTED A LOT ON OUR BIKE....!!!!!

[thehotheadedbeast]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Hi bro,

130/90 will burn the reflector for sure... even the glass will get faded very soon with that 130/90 bulb.. remove it soon....

Thanks a lot for the information. I would also request to please explain the "RR"unit. I consulted with my expert and he advised me to upgrade something called "POSP" unit to the one provided in pulsar 220. As far as reflector is concerned, it is working superb since last 6 months with daily 15 km in night in condition of heavy traffic jam and there are no symptons of melting. Is the posp unit and rr unit the same thing?
Thanks in advance.

[Srinivas sr143sr]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Thanks a lot for the information. I would also request to please explain the "RR"unit. I consulted with my expert and he advised me to upgrade something called "POSP" unit to the one provided in pulsar 220. As far as reflector is concerned, it is working superb since last 6 months with daily 15 km in night in condition of heavy traffic jam and there are no symptons of melting. Is the posp unit and rr unit the same thing?
Thanks in advance.

You didnt observed your reflector correctly.. The 2nd photo you have uploaded (exactly at the middle top position), your reflector is getting shrinked... it already started showing symptoms.. observe it carefully...!!! (marked in red)






That will grow in size and gradually your reflector will melt , as well as the glass gets blurred in the process... It will result in poor visibility and you will get stunned that , the bike beside you ( maybe the new pulsar) 35watt bulb is having good visiblity....!! this will happen in future, but not now.... and also you have to change the whole Headlight assembly (May be 1300-1400) in future..!!!

Your bike is Full dc... am i right..?? RR unit (two phase unit in your bike) is Regulator Rectifier Unit... It receives the AC current from the stator--> converts it to DC----> Regulates it to the voltage around roughly 13.5-14.5 DC volts and supply it to your bikes battery..!!

If you want to install 130/90 headlight so badly..... only way is to do the following---

-- Rewind the stator SO GOOD (literally you have to wind it very good) that it should provide good ac current even at low RPMs...
-- Install APE RR
(Your bike RR can handle that current but will fail at sometime because it was not designed to handle that much high AC voltage
Its like pumping high force water through a household rubber pipe... what happens..?? The pipe will blow out at sometime)
-- You need to maintain High RPM's in your bike in order to avoid discharge of your battery...
After many many experiments by so many members, they said that after rewinding and using APE RR also they have to maintain around 3-4 RPM just to stop the battery from getting drained.. So if you want to charge the battery you have to maintain more than that RPM at all times...
-- Finally change the whole headlight assembly and install Ambassador headlight assembly reflector and glass (may be it can handle that bulb to some extent, even the original bulb designed is 60/55 w bulb, i think so..)
--Even after doing this much, our 9Ah battery may or may not be able to handle the RAPID discharge and recharge cycles...!!!!

Here Everything is a calculation for DURABILITY and STABILITY..!!!



POSP unit..?? I am hearing it first time..!!! theres nothing like a POSP unit in P220..!!!!
P220 have 55w two bulbs, one in projector and another one is normal bulb... Nothing special units are installed in P220.. The RR used in P220 is 3-phase unit one... Even the P220 cant support the 130/90 headlight.... THATS FOR SURE...!!!! Even the P200NS will struggle if you install 130/90 bulb...

The Logic is The Stator Magnet Core, Winded copper in stator, RR unit, headlamp reflector and glass in our Pulsar series (at least in our present generations) are not designed to support 130/90 bulbs..


Hehe... long post right..

[gunner143]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Lol just get a nice led bulb for your bike....no probs with your electrical setup cuz the led will most likely draw alot less than even your stock halogen.

And you wont even lose your low beam when you switch to high beam.

The one i am using doesn't even create any glare at low beam. So its a win win for me.

[APACHE_RAJ]

Need to install cyclops h4 led 3800 lumens in Apache RTR 180 abs new

Hello guys...

I want to install cyclops h4 led light in my rtr 180 abs new .
It is mentioned that cyclops led will work only on dc.. I don't know that my bike has a dc supply to the headlight or ac. How can i check that.?

And if it is ac then how can i convert it to ac.?


Please help me ...

[saikatbyte]

Re: Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

Philips crystal vision hs1 35/35w (4300k) and Osram Nightracer plus hs1 35/35w (3700k), which will be better in terms of visibilty?

[AbhiAvvy13]

Re: Need to install cyclops h4 led 3800 lumens in Apache RTR 180 abs new

Hello guys...

I want to install cyclops h4 led light in my rtr 180 abs new .
It is mentioned that cyclops led will work only on dc.. I don't know that my bike has a dc supply to the headlight or ac. How can i check that.?

And if it is ac then how can i convert it to ac.?


Please help me ...

If with decreasing acceleration the headlight is getting dimmed then its AC. Otherwise it is DC.

[joshdsy]

Re: Need to install cyclops h4 led 3800 lumens in Apache RTR 180 abs new

[QUOTE=APACHE_RAJ;1236887]Hello guys...

I want to install cyclops h4 led light in my rtr 180 abs new .
It is mentioned that cyclops led will work only on dc.. I don't know that my bike has a dc supply to the headlight or ac. How can i check that.?

And if it is ac then how can i convert it to ac.?


Please help me ...

The rtr180 abs is DC as far as I know. The plain rtr180 is ac .

[thehotheadedbeast]

Re: Need to install cyclops h4 led 3800 lumens in Apache RTR 180 abs new

Hello guys...

I want to install cyclops h4 led light in my rtr 180 abs new .
It is mentioned that cyclops led will work only on dc.. I don't know th

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Apache's are still relying on ac circuits. No dc mechanisms from tvs till date.

[vivekgautams]

Re: Need to install cyclops h4 led 3800 lumens in Apache RTR 180 abs new

Hello guys...
I want to install cyclops h4 led light in my rtr 180 abs new .
It is mentioned that cyclops led will work only on dc.. I don't know that my bike has a dc supply to the headlight or ac. How can i check that.?

The RTR180 ABS is D.C for sure. The LED will work fine.
The pilot light on my bike are led. I'v installed and used HID on my bike, no problems.
I have tested my friends "cree" LED H4 on my RTR180 ABS before he installed the led on his CBR150r. Worked fine!

Apache's are still relying on ac circuits. No dc mechanisms from tvs till date.

Bro, IF RTR180 ABS was AC (and without any electrical mods) .. How would a h4 H.I.D work fine on A.C? How would a T10 LED pilot lamp work? How does a "CREE" h4 LED bulb glow the same on a RTR180 ABS and a CBR150R, with the engine off (CBR150R also AC?) ?
Buddy, I'm no Electrical/ Electronics engineer.. Please help me understand the results of my experiments/observations/experience with my RTR180 ABS.

Cheers!