The Official Pune Offline Meet(G2G) Thread

[satyenpoojary]

HEY GUYS.. HOW IS A GEAR BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A CRASH????

MAYBEE THE PERSON WORE THE GEAR AT THE WRONG PLACE??? OR MIGHT BE HE WAS USING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME AND HE HAD A HARD DAY????

TOO BAD FOR HIM....

I dont pick flaimbaits now... try someone else

PS: Read Mumbai thread we are meeting and planning a rockathon thing! how many for malshej on Saturday!

[TenHut]

I ,for one , do not classify riders based on these preferences. I just know that I need to ride. Be it cornering , touring , highway blasts , off roading . For me riding is just about 'riding' only. The background changes , roads change , traffic density changes, routes change etc etc but I will enjoy everything as long as I am riding a motorcycle.

as long as you are riding a motorcycle which can take all those background changes its fine. Sometimes its not just about you..its also about the bike ( u cant do cornering nor any quickblast on highways on an enfield..would u still be in for those rides ?).Rider classification is inevitable..whether you do it or not...and this applies not just to our rides but to motorsports out there too..

I still feel this rule needs looking into.would like to discuss more when we meet on saturday evening.

Right on mate ! I have always felt that our rule needed looking into.But then NVs calculation of Rs 3900 doesnt really leave my mind with much doubt anymore. If getting basic gear can be done for Rs 3900 then hell it should be done.

but if someone else is not realising this, i make it a point to drive some sense in him but not force him to comply with the NO RIDING WITHOUT GEAR unless thats the last option.
thats simply gonna create resentment among the new riders and they may turn to other (iresponsible) communities, so we wont be helping our cause.....

tbh once you have tried drilling your point to someone for months only to see him laugh at your obsession with gear you will give up on convincing people.
Our cause is not to make the world a safer place. I would have loved to have that as our cause but it is beyond our capacity to educate, teach, convince etc. Our cause is to be safe ourselves. Riders who think alike (like you) join . Thos who dont think alike ( like many other smurfers here) dont join.
You can try convincing but soon it turns into an argument and you find yourself not riding but arguing.

As to your sentence in bold : have you ever been forced to comply to xBHPs riding rules ? No ! But you still chose to cause you value the sanity of the arguments when one speaks for gears and safety. There is no force to comply with here..a mere option i would say ...'If you want to ride with us, value your life..if you dont fine by us..good luck and ride safe' is all the gear and safety norms here say. Nothing more should be construed out of this rule. The rule is not made to police riders and to force them into believing safety. The rule is in place to make our bunch of rides casualty free. By merely using safety gear we are not on any higher moral grounds to claim to be in a position to tell others to use gear or convince them about it on the world wide web. Your approach of first convincing new riders about safety is fine and dandy to me..only it leaves you arguing with too many ppl at once !

Inder I read the entire thing, the problem is not the post, but the underlined line.
Stop generalizing as the ones who dont wear gear crashes more! Else I will push you off lavasa next time when I see you geared!

rofl !

[rohitlc]

To be very honest, me, Sagar, Rohan and Vishwas were even toying with the idea of keeping some spare guards (elbow and knee) and some gloves to help out those enthusiasts who would like to join us, but may not have the gear at that moment. All this with the help of a small contribution by the existing members.

read my post which is above ur post... i am ready to contribute...

[Devilpulsarian]

NV mera tel de de bhai........

or else seal pack its engine oil cap next time you bring your bike in front of me.....

[niranjanvaidya]

NV mera tel de de bhai........

or else seal pack its engine oil cap next time you bring your bike in front of me.....

Sorry buddy . The person who was supposed to deliver the oil is in Kolhapur at the moment. I have asked him to arrange for the delivery of the same at my residence by tomorrow morning.

I need oil too...my bike has ridden well beyond its change interval.

[HydroXidE]

@ROCKRZ

You have raised a valid point about costs involved in getting safety gear.
I understand budget constraints. You could try the following:

1. Helmet - choose one that is snug fit. Brand is secondary.
2. Skating knee and elbow guards - 400-500+ and beyond
3. Simple leather gloves - 150-200
4. Army boots - Rs.300-600 from army surplus stores

Obviously, better riding gear is .. well better and more expensive, but these are not bad either. At least they'll get you started. I've had falls with (2) and (3) and I can tell you they are effective; may be not as much as things which are 5 times its value, but almost 80% there. So, they are definitely not bad options.

It is a general habit to improve on gear over time. But to be honest, there is no practical 'safest' option, nor is there a limit to how much one could go on pampering one self with safety gear in an effort to improve personal safety.

Eg: Most people have a 5k-6k riding jacket. These jackets don't come with a back protector. Something that is pretty vital safety wise. Without this, the jacket only protects elbows, shoulders and abrasion against the surface. There still is a chance of injury. It's the same case with gloves. Most of these 'riding' gloves (esp. the cheaper indian alternative) have jazzy knuckle protectors, but aren't the best at protecting the palm or end up being poor on stitch quality.

What I'm trying to convey here is that, regardless of what one wears, the will always be some area that can be improved and some items missed. So, it'll be a very subjective view of drawing a line to say one level of protection is adequate while something else isn't.

Another point I want to draw here is that safety is really in the 'mind' and not just in the riding gear one wears. Riding gear is only there to support you. Safety in essence is knowing what you can do safely in the context of the equipment, gear and skills you have. You aren't required to wear safety gear all the time. Sometimes it won't make sense either.

Eg: I wouldn't wear a jacket if I had to go to the sabzi mandi to buy vegetables. But then I'd not indulge in any entertaining riding either. There is always a chance of being hit by things that aren't in your control. But that chance is almost the same with any thing else too like crossing the road. It's all about weighing pros/cons and drawing a like somewhere about what you feel is safe enough for you.

Also remember that jeans isn't really all that protective. Jeans/denim tears really easily against abrasion. Try leather. Great abrasion resistance and last years and years.

[ROCKRZ]

what i deduce from this discussion is that i am going for a minimum of a good quality riding jacket with elbow guards, gloves with ample knuckle protection and only then will i be riding for long distances again

by the way an off topic question... where is the thread for safety gear???

[niks_devil666]

as long as you are riding a motorcycle which can take all those background changes its fine. Sometimes its not just about you..its also about the bike ( u cant do cornering nor any quickblast on highways on an enfield..would u still be in for those rides ?).Rider classification is inevitable..whether you do it or not...and this applies not just to our rides but to motorsports out there too..

Yes it can and yes I will. Why? because I believe in a highway blast which doesnt cross 100-110 . Cornering which doesnt involve break neck speeds. As long as you are looking for riding which is fun and doesnt involve putting anyones life in jeopardy, any indian 150 cc+ bike is good enough. As far as motorsports are concerned thats a different ball game altogether. But none of us are going to end up being racers are we , for us , isn't motorcycling only about the joy of riding?

@NV : I am figuring out a way to take out cpl of hrs time on weekends for short rides

[JitenMistry]

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Rs. 300.00 -- Army Boots (Ankle Length Boots)

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Right!

Where I can find the army boots (Ankle length boots). The only reaming items in my list.

[niranjanvaidya]

Where I can find the army boots (Ankle length boots). The only reaming items in my list.

RohitLC is the right person to ask for this...

@Rohit: Please help Jiten.

[JitenMistry]

RohitLC is the right person to ask for this...

@Rohit: Please help Jiten.

Thanks NV !!

Rohit brother, are you remembering me??? Please help me on this.

[TenHut]

Yes it can and yes I will. Why? because I believe in a highway blast which doesnt cross 100-110 . Cornering which doesnt involve break neck speeds. As long as you are looking for riding which is fun and doesnt involve putting anyones life in jeopardy, any indian 150 cc+ bike is good enough. As far as motorsports are concerned thats a different ball game altogether. But none of us are going to end up being racers are we , for us , isn't motorcycling only about the joy of riding?

Wow...you just managed to miss my whole point. Have it whichever way you will, rider classification is inevitable ! Motorsports was refered to point out how these differences are not self created and do actually exist. Racing, racers, what ?
What might be breakneck speeds in corner for an enfield might be crusing speed of an R15 in a corner. See how the way you look at a corner and an r15 rider looks at a corner change ? A highway blast of 100- 110kmph seems safe and normal to you because thats what your bike does normally and safely. So you are limited. Cmon the r15s and 220s dont do those speeds for a highway blast. That is the difference I am talking of. Ofcourse u will and can still join in those rides..thats why i spoke of riders(confused riders) who do everything. I consider myself a confused rider myself...but if I start trailing a group of rippers by 20 kms because those nuts are wringing their throttle to the max I would rather attend an offroading trip with Hydro, Surojit MG and all. Thats the point I am talking of. Look at spideys post..almost every rider does more than one sort of riding. Can i say 'isnt motorcycling about the fun of riding the motorcycle' and take my blade to leh ? Dont argue for the sake of it..there are underlying fundamental differences.
Joy of simply riding a motorcycle has nothing to do with the issue at hand. its just high sounding words...
The only issue here is to arrange for rides and you will have enough riders for all sorts of rides. Ppl not choosing to ride on bad roads is not the reason why we had a dull riding season for the past couple of months. We didnt have ANY RIDES at all. That is what we are looking to change..

[rohitlc]

Thanks NV !!

Rohit brother, are you remembering me??? Please help me on this.

we can go there tomorrow/sunday. inder NV u coming??

[inder.cool]

^ Lets do it on sunday..

[JitenMistry]

we can go there tomorrow/sunday. inder NV u coming??

^ Lets do it on sunday..

Yes, Sunday would be be better !!! schedule please