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  • Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
    This is my personal opinion (as are most 'rules') but the "never overtake from the left" rule makes sense in one scenario - when you're overtaking someone in the same lane by squeezing yourself into the gaps in which case you'd rather try it from the right then left. Given the size of the lanes on NH3 its usually safe to overtake 'from the left' when you are in a completely different lane cause pragmatically speaking ure not overtaking at all, ure simply riding faster in your lane and drivers will usually maintain lane discipline. However, I will usually stay as far away from the vehicle on the right as I can to give him some 'breathing' space in case he needs to swerve to avoid a pothole or a pedestrian. The other thing to watch out for is the lazy lane (i dont know if that's the technical term but thats what i call the left most lane). During heavy traffic hours the lane is anyways full of bikes so not a big issue but during lesser traffic hours you might find it tempting to use the relatively empty left most lane to zip past traffic. I've been guilty of this and suffered because ricks will usually zip into the lazy lane and stop for no apparent reason (these days even to take calls on their cool cell phones!). The problem with the lazy lane is that its usually full of gravel (even on NH3) and consequently a hard brake could send you swerving into the rick (I have seen this happen). But overtaking someone in the first lane by using the second lane after checking ure RVM and indicating your intent to switch lanes is all good in my opinion. If someone has a better insight into this, do share!
    Thanks for the advice Mr.Alankar( If I may call you that,lol). And I do agree with you the last lane is quite dangerous to ride in, in a few situations, but it's alright during heavy traffic. Thanks again...
    I would rather be riding my bike thinking of God, than sitting in the temple thinking of my bike.

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    • Originally posted by Horror View Post
      Mr.Alankar( If I may call you that,lol).
      Alankar theek hai. "Mr" thoda jyaada hai :-P
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      • Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
        Alankar theek hai. "Mr" thoda jyaada hai :-P
        lol ok.... Hope to see you soon...
        I would rather be riding my bike thinking of God, than sitting in the temple thinking of my bike.

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        • Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
          This is my personal opinion (as are most 'rules') but the "never overtake from the left" rule makes sense in one scenario - when you're overtaking someone in the same lane by squeezing yourself into the gaps in which case you'd rather try it from the right then left. Given the size of the lanes on NH3 its usually safe to overtake 'from the left' when you are in a completely different lane cause pragmatically speaking ure not overtaking at all, ure simply riding faster in your lane and drivers will usually maintain lane discipline. However, I will usually stay as far away from the vehicle on the right as I can to give him some 'breathing' space in case he needs to swerve to avoid a pothole or a pedestrian. The other thing to watch out for is the lazy lane (i dont know if that's the technical term but thats what i call the left most lane). During heavy traffic hours the lane is anyways full of bikes so not a big issue but during lesser traffic hours you might find it tempting to use the relatively empty left most lane to zip past traffic. I've been guilty of this and suffered because ricks will usually zip into the lazy lane and stop for no apparent reason (these days even to take calls on their cool cell phones!). The problem with the lazy lane is that its usually full of gravel (even on NH3) and consequently a hard brake could send you swerving into the rick (I have seen this happen). But overtaking someone in the first lane by using the second lane after checking ure RVM and indicating your intent to switch lanes is all good in my opinion. If someone has a better insight into this, do share!
          I totally agree with each n every word written above ... Infact I was going to raise this topic as a separate thread to get fellow xBhpians opinion regarding overtaking on multi-lane roads ... but wanted to make sure that there is no other thread discussing the same issue, hence decided to dig the database first and then take it to the forum !

          IMO during any overtaking left or right we should be 100% sure that we can safely pass the vehicle without sudden braking ! .... In some situations 100% is also not enough since some unseen (totally unpredictable) creatures / objects may appear in front of you from nowhere ! ..... For eg: I was overtaking an old zen from right on SV Road near santacruz area during late evening hours with no streetlight. I was in the first lane and car in between 1st and 2nd .... the car gave side after honking and as I got a green signal from the driver I accelerated to pass the car quickly ... but to my horror the car suddenly slowed down as a dog from extreme left side (30 degrees - NW) started running towards the divider ... It was totally out of my sight but I noticed the car's speed coming down ... I had already passed the car halfway ... Now with the car on left, divider on right and dog in front, I was caught in a deadly situation at around 35kmph .... Initially I panicked but then regained my senses quickly and before anything else I fully disengaged the throttle, left the clutch open, applied front brake first followed by rear brake immediately, the bike swiveled a bit but I balanced it by throwing my weight in opposite directions which was much difficult since I had a pillion too and till I covered that ~1.5 meter distance between me and the dog, the BRAVE dog quickly managed to get on the other side of the divider (luckily there was no vehicle coming from opposite side either) and I just missed it by inches ... Had he panicked and stopped or been a little slow it would have crashed with my bike, with me and pillion in air and later may be under the oncoming car !

          Things can get so scary even after 100% assurance ! .... There was no way I could see the puny dog coming from that angle that too with no streetlight ... So best thing is to make sure situation is favorable enough to allow you to overtake (for which the consent or attention of the driver of the vehicle which you wish to overtake is a MUST) and only then take the call .... for rare situations like the one mentioned above, dont panic, use skills and above all believe in GOD and do GOOD deeds .... it will really help you in such situations

          Ride Safe Guys !
          Last edited by Rony; 12-16-2010, 11:32 PM.
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          • Originally posted by alankarmisra View Post
            This is my personal opinion (as are most 'rules') but the "never overtake from the left" rule makes sense in one scenario - when you're overtaking someone in the same lane by squeezing yourself into the gaps in which case you'd rather try it from the right then left. Given the size of the lanes on NH3 its usually safe to overtake 'from the left' when you are in a completely different lane cause pragmatically speaking ure not overtaking at all, ure simply riding faster in your lane and drivers will usually maintain lane discipline. However, I will usually stay as far away from the vehicle on the right as I can to give him some 'breathing' space in case he needs to swerve to avoid a pothole or a pedestrian. The other thing to watch out for is the lazy lane (i dont know if that's the technical term but thats what i call the left most lane). During heavy traffic hours the lane is anyways full of bikes so not a big issue but during lesser traffic hours you might find it tempting to use the relatively empty left most lane to zip past traffic. I've been guilty of this and suffered because ricks will usually zip into the lazy lane and stop for no apparent reason (these days even to take calls on their cool cell phones!). The problem with the lazy lane is that its usually full of gravel (even on NH3) and consequently a hard brake could send you swerving into the rick (I have seen this happen). But overtaking someone in the first lane by using the second lane after checking ure RVM and indicating your intent to switch lanes is all good in my opinion. If someone has a better insight into this, do share!
            Bohot sahi Farrmaya aapne
            Not only Great power comes with great responsibility but also with Great RISK !!! Referring to SBKs...

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            • Originally posted by joelkraju View Post
              Veeral,Mestro an satyen..
              ye mere nam mein kya pusur pusur ho raha hai..??:O
              kabhi to naam theek se likha kar!!!!

              Originally posted by Horror View Post
              Thanks for the advice Mr.Alankar( If I may call you that,lol). And I do agree with you the last lane is quite dangerous to ride in, in a few situations, but it's alright during heavy traffic. Thanks again...
              oye hoye Mr....
              Originally posted by Rony View Post
              I totally agree with each n every word written above ... Infact I was going to raise this topic as a separate thread to get fellow xBhpians opinion regarding overtaking on multi-lane roads ... but wanted to make sure that there is no other thread discussing the same issue, hence decided to dig the database first and then take it to the forum !

              IMO during any overtaking left or right we should be 100% sure that we can safely pass the vehicle without sudden braking ! .... In some situations 100% is also not enough since some unseen (totally unpredictable) creatures / objects may appear in front of you from nowhere ! ..... For eg: I was overtaking an old zen from right on SV Road near santacruz area during late evening hours with no streetlight. I was in the first lane and car in between 1st and 2nd .... the car gave side after honking and as I got a green signal from the driver I accelerated to pass the car quickly ... but to my horror the car suddenly slowed down as a dog from extreme left side (30 degrees - NW) started running towards the divider ... It was totally out of my sight but I noticed the car's speed coming down ... I had already passed the car halfway ... Now with the car of left, divider on right and dog in front, I was caught in a deadly situation at around 35kmph .... Initially I panicked but then regained my senses quickly and before anything else I fully disengaged the throttle, left the clutch open, applied front brake first followed by rear brake immediately, the bike swiveled a bit but I balanced it by throwing my weight in opposite directions which was much difficult since I had a pillion too and till I covered that ~1.5 meter distance between me and the dog, the BRAVE dog quickly managed to get on the other side of the divider (luckily there was no vehicle coming from opposite side either) and I just missed it by inches ... Had he panicked and stopped or been a little slow it would have crashed with my bike, with me and pillion in air and later may be under the oncoming car !

              Things can get so scary even after 100% assurance ! .... There was no way I could see the puny dog coming from that angle that too with no streetlight ... So best thing is to make sure situation is favorable enough to allow you to overtake (for which the consent or attention of the driver of the vehicle which you wish to overtake is a MUST) and only then take the call .... for rare situations like the one mentioned above, dont panic, use skills and above all believe in GOD and do GOOD deeds .... it will really help you in such situations

              Ride Safe Guys !
              baccho ..........rony baba se SKILLS seekho!!!
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              • Originally posted by Rony View Post
                I totally agree with each n every word written above ... Infact I was going to raise this topic as a separate thread to get fellow xBhpians opinion regarding overtaking on multi-lane roads ... but wanted to make sure that there is no other thread discussing the same issue, hence decided to dig the database first and then take it to the forum !

                IMO during any overtaking left or right we should be 100% sure that we can safely pass the vehicle without sudden braking ! .... In some situations 100% is also not enough since some unseen (totally unpredictable) creatures / objects may appear in front of you from nowhere ! ..... For eg: I was overtaking an old zen from right on SV Road near santacruz area during late evening hours with no streetlight. I was in the first lane and car in between 1st and 2nd .... the car gave side after honking and as I got a green signal from the driver I accelerated to pass the car quickly ... but to my horror the car suddenly slowed down as a dog from extreme left side (30 degrees - NW) started running towards the divider ... It was totally out of my sight but I noticed the car's speed coming down ... I had already passed the car halfway ... Now with the car of left, divider on right and dog in front, I was caught in a deadly situation at around 35kmph .... Initially I panicked but then regained my senses quickly and before anything else I fully disengaged the throttle, left the clutch open, applied front brake first followed by rear brake immediately, the bike swiveled a bit but I balanced it by throwing my weight in opposite directions which was much difficult since I had a pillion too and till I covered that ~1.5 meterdistance between me and the dog, the BRAVE dog quickly managed to get on the other side of the divider (luckily there was no vehicle coming from opposite side either) and I just missed it by inches ... Had he panicked and stopped or been a little slow it would have crashed with my bike, with me and pillion in air and later may be under the oncoming car !

                Things can get so scary even after 100% assurance ! .... There was no way I could see the puny dog coming from that angle that too with no streetlight ... So best thing is to make sure situation is favorable enough to allow you to overtake (for which the consent or attention of the driver of the vehicle which you wish to overtake is a MUST) and only then take the call .... for rare situations like the one mentioned above, dont panic, use skills and above all believe in GOD and do GOOD deeds .... it will really help you in such situations

                Ride Safe Guys !
                nice skill used there
                Last edited by Veeral; 12-16-2010, 11:30 PM.
                Not only Great power comes with great responsibility but also with Great RISK !!! Referring to SBKs...

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                • Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                  baccho ..........rony baba se SKILLS seekho!!!
                  Originally posted by Veeral View Post
                  nice skill used there
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                  • Originally posted by Rony View Post
                    applied front brake first followed by rear brake immediately
                    Give preference to the rear brake (even though both are supposed to be depressed simultaneously, one naturally tends to start with one or the other). As for 100% certainty, there's no such thing. In such situations you just got to rely on instinct and a little bit of luck and sometimes even that isn't enough - hence the safety gear.
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                    • Originally posted by Horror View Post
                      Lavasa is too long for my puny twister , if it was closer then would surely join you guys(or if I had a bigger bike)
                      Originally posted by Ameya220 View Post
                      Its not about the CC, its about 1 community called Biking

                      yaa sure its not about the bike that you use..
                      i use a HH Passion and it is just a 100cc bike but i feel its more than enough..
                      unless you want to speed up..

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                      • Originally posted by Pranit_Crystal Myth View Post
                        yaa sure its not about the bike that you use..
                        i use a HH Passion and it is just a 100cc bike but i feel its more than enough..
                        unless you want to speed up..
                        ROny has a 135cc bike and I have a 220cc bike..... but Rony Airplane Pilot hai aur main Ship ka captain.....
                        We Bikers are not those who ride to commute , But the ones who commute to ride

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                        • Originally posted by RISHIS View Post
                          ROny has a 135cc bike and I have a 220cc bike..... but Rony Airplane Pilot hai aur main Ship ka captain.....
                          +he uses skills!!!!
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                          • Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                            +he uses skills!!!!
                            Originally posted by RISHIS View Post
                            ROny has a 135cc bike and I have a 220cc bike..... but Rony Airplane Pilot hai aur main Ship ka captain.....
                            @Maestro: +1
                            but kabhi kabhi plane crash kar deta hai (But with skills)
                            Not only Great power comes with great responsibility but also with Great RISK !!! Referring to SBKs...

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                            • Originally posted by ketan_r15 View Post
                              Check this out how lucky that fellow is...
                              saheb please ase videos post karu naka...

                              Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post
                              Why would I kill you! Its probably the easiest on the light weight jive... you forgot, I had the bike for 1200KMs and did a Rajmachi trip on it too!
                              thats why i thought you would kill me for riding it insanely on one wheel

                              Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                              todays ride........thought mast fog shog milega.
                              ..
                              ..
                              .......itna kaafi hua aaj ke liye soch ke return aate time 60 cross hi nahi kiya.....
                              shit man ! i was getting weird thoughts last night and so didnt join you...glad your fine and nothing happened at all !

                              Originally posted by Veeral View Post
                              [IMG]
                              Guys whose he ?? joel ? i dont think so, as joel has blue helmet.
                              his name is tejas..

                              Originally posted by vineet_44 View Post
                              Nin I suppose you are also thinking to change your bike, I read on the forum , please to a favor buy one for me also :P
                              change nahi steal...so beware...your bike might just disappear !

                              Originally posted by Ameya220 View Post
                              What Happen to Mumbai Guys? Rishi Posted for the ride n no one replied. No 1 wants to ride to lavasa?
                              most of us just did lavasa..i guess a month back...

                              Originally posted by Horror View Post
                              Lavasa is too long for my puny twister , if it was closer then would surely join you guys(or if I had a bigger bike)
                              oh yeah ? you should see the villagers riding there splendours,platinas even m80's....they dont need higher end bikes there
                              see even pranit did a ride with us
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                              Originally posted by Pranit_Crystal Myth View Post
                              yaa sure its not about the bike that you use..
                              i use a HH Passion and it is just a 100cc bike but i feel its more than enough..
                              unless you want to speed up..
                              but now you know what all small problems can arise...thats why i dont take my other bike for a long ride much...

                              Originally posted by Ameya220 View Post
                              Its not about the CC, its about 1 community called Biking
                              yeah right...nimkar saheb tumhi kiti g2gs la aalat haan ?

                              Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                              Check out this video,seems to me like winzees brother, shouting in malayalam.
                              pehle aaiyo bola ki 'arre hato' 2nd for sure 'AaaIiyyo'!

                              Originally posted by joelkraju View Post
                              Veeral,Mestro an satyen..
                              ye mere nam mein kya pusur pusur ho raha hai..??:O
                              they are going to adopt you !

                              Originally posted by Maestro View Post

                              baccho ..........rony baba se SKILLS seekho!!!
                              Originally posted by Veeral View Post
                              nice skill used there
                              Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                              +he uses skills!!!!
                              @Maestro: +1
                              but kabhi kabhi plane crash kar deta hai (But with skills)
                              kitna kheechoge yaar uski...ab bas karo !

                              and about cornering and overtaking from the left..

                              1. kya jarurat hai ?? kisko ghai hai itni!!
                              2. for overtaking always overtake from the right and wait for your turn...signal the vehicle in front...use the pass button/honk...when you see there's enough space and time to overtake...do it....still if theres an accident...blame it to your fate...or quit biking !
                              3. cornering should only be done on a track and avoided elsewhere (fir bhi keeda hai toh secluded spots pe practise karo)

                              best way of quiting a corner is shifting weight back again(on the saddle) slight braking(minimum..with use of both brakes simultaneously) and shifting gears down gradually(quickly slowing down)...mind you...gradually..else you'll lose traction...

                              P.S. : was hesitating to reply to all this before thinking i might go OT...but i guess its okay since everyone is doing it...so i might as well use this opportunity...

                              GUYS TELL ME ABOUT GOOD AND CHEAP ACCOMODATION IN MUMBAI...i have 6-7 friends coming from nagpur and they need to stay back here for 4-5days sometime around 5-6jan...the 2 girls have found shelter(like girls always do)..so its just 4-5guys now...anyone knowing anything may please let me know...it would be of great help ! thanks in advance...
                              A very good and safe biker not only because he can pop up either of the wheels,scrape his knees on a corner or go fast and make it look stylish but because he very well knows his limits and capabilities and has the patience to learn about others and ride safe ! :)

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                              • Originally posted by Centaur View Post
                                It belonged to a guy that was going to Pune, I think ( not an xBhpian)... Dazzler might know more ... they talked for a long time regarding custom painted helmets --
                                yeah u are right Centaur.... it definetly belongs to him... for the first time in xhbp meet(s) i found someone with similar interest in paint job's...lol
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