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Originally posted by Sunnyside_up!
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@ ALL,
I've been following this thread carefully too and I agree with Raghav that it is not right to condemn a product blindly based on it's place of manufacture.
My firm imports a large amount of high quality stuff for our projects from China and I can say with a fair degree of authority that China is the manufacturer to the world - they manufacture everything from BMW's to safety pins and since they cater to the whole world, they also cater to all kinds of markets, both high-end exclusive products AND bargain-basement imitations.
We in the Indian market unfortunately are more acquainted with cheap Chinese products because that is what is predominantly imported by traders for a market that is more tuned for price than quality - hence the ingrained prejudice.
That said, it is also my experience that most Chinese products sold at low prices also look better than they really are because even in China, premium quality costs more and in this case we need to be particularly cautious since it involves safety gear.
TheArmor is CE approved boss
My suggestion would be that we (when I say 'we' I mean at least one of us from the Chennai gang - not somebody that we don't know) try to locate someone who has a jacket from this company and qualitatively analyze the product, lest we all make a collective mistake.
Agreed, if we find a jacket here in chennai. I'll see if I can find a rider with this jacket here and Invite him for a meet. But If I'm not able to are we ready to skip such a offer? Sorry for sounding like a sales rep boss, (even though I'm not
) but if these are better than cramster or DSG, why should we settle for less?
What makes me sceptical is that several of the pictures in the testimony are incorrect. Remember I own a Cramster and the testimonial erroneously marks the armours in the pictures attached. Next, NOTHING from China takes 4 months to ship!!
Can you tell me the errors, so I can clarify them with the guy who posted it. let me get them clarified again. Agreed nothing takes 4 months to ship, but his order is only in November. Sorry if the point was not clear.
Also I had the opportunity to examine in great detail (though I cannot claim expertise) the quality of both the DSG Phoenix and Spike and subsequently chose the Cramster 2.0 since I found it to be far superior to the DSGs in finish and materials. I'm looking forward to seeing Zaphod's Cramster 3.0 because I anticipate it will be even better than mine.
In a nutshell, my advice is this - make your own evaluations based on your own research and judgement just like you chose your bikes, and I'm sure you won't go wrong! Remember "try before you buy"!
+100 to that, but travelling down to Delhi just to see if the sizes are alright is not practical. That is why, the seller has agreed to take back the jacket if the sizing is not proper, despite all the "safety" measures
I've been following this thread carefully too and I agree with Raghav that it is not right to condemn a product blindly based on it's place of manufacture.
My firm imports a large amount of high quality stuff for our projects from China and I can say with a fair degree of authority that China is the manufacturer to the world - they manufacture everything from BMW's to safety pins and since they cater to the whole world, they also cater to all kinds of markets, both high-end exclusive products AND bargain-basement imitations.
We in the Indian market unfortunately are more acquainted with cheap Chinese products because that is what is predominantly imported by traders for a market that is more tuned for price than quality - hence the ingrained prejudice.
That said, it is also my experience that most Chinese products sold at low prices also look better than they really are because even in China, premium quality costs more and in this case we need to be particularly cautious since it involves safety gear.
TheArmor is CE approved boss
My suggestion would be that we (when I say 'we' I mean at least one of us from the Chennai gang - not somebody that we don't know) try to locate someone who has a jacket from this company and qualitatively analyze the product, lest we all make a collective mistake.
Agreed, if we find a jacket here in chennai. I'll see if I can find a rider with this jacket here and Invite him for a meet. But If I'm not able to are we ready to skip such a offer? Sorry for sounding like a sales rep boss, (even though I'm not
) but if these are better than cramster or DSG, why should we settle for less? What makes me sceptical is that several of the pictures in the testimony are incorrect. Remember I own a Cramster and the testimonial erroneously marks the armours in the pictures attached. Next, NOTHING from China takes 4 months to ship!!
Can you tell me the errors, so I can clarify them with the guy who posted it. let me get them clarified again. Agreed nothing takes 4 months to ship, but his order is only in November. Sorry if the point was not clear.
Also I had the opportunity to examine in great detail (though I cannot claim expertise) the quality of both the DSG Phoenix and Spike and subsequently chose the Cramster 2.0 since I found it to be far superior to the DSGs in finish and materials. I'm looking forward to seeing Zaphod's Cramster 3.0 because I anticipate it will be even better than mine.
In a nutshell, my advice is this - make your own evaluations based on your own research and judgement just like you chose your bikes, and I'm sure you won't go wrong! Remember "try before you buy"!
+100 to that, but travelling down to Delhi just to see if the sizes are alright is not practical. That is why, the seller has agreed to take back the jacket if the sizing is not proper, despite all the "safety" measures
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