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  • #46
    Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

    Originally posted by The Monk View Post
    Disclaimer: This is a post to dissuade people from joining a gym. So please don't feel offended as my views are different.

    A long time back when i was in college i used to workout in a gym 6 days a week. The 'big bicep bug' had bit me, as i thought that was a cool way to get the ladies attention Unfortunately it wasn't of much use, yet i continued with dumb belles! Until one day i came across this labourer carrying sacks of grain on his back. My body weight was 50% more than that guy, i had far 'bigger' muscles than that poor man, yet he was carrying a sack twice his own weight and not just one or two, but many. It was an eye opener at the strength of that man and the weakness of my big muscles.

    I end this post with a request to not take this post as a negative towards anybody, to each their own, but to give a different perspective towards fitness for the bikers on xBhp. Also, i tag @R-series here. This guy is a lanky looking fellow, but far fitter, tougher and capable of kicking ass than most 8 days a week gym infesters. Kushagra, please do share your fitness regime with all of us here. Thanks
    Thank you for tagging me here @The Monk. I guess I read this thread before but I don't think it was in anyway related to biking, so I never bothered to go through this. Moreover, with the comments and updates here, I felt that many people didn't give importance to fitness as a part of riding bikes.


    I clearly remember that "sack incident" when you shared it with us at the Dhaba. I agreed with you that time and I agree again

    Any comments I write here about workout, are not to discourage people from working out at the gym. But like @The Monk I also believe that as average citizens of India we have to develop overall fitness and not muscle. Unless you're professionally into a sport or profession which demands certain body part to be stronger or more visible than the other, there is no point in building muscles like Hrithik Roshan (he's got a pretty impressive body for a 40 year old, which even I would die to have )


    Most of the people I have interaction with are on the MotoGP thread and I love discussions and arguments there because at the end, I learn a lot from them. One thing I've had and now have more is the motivation to be faster. On the bike or in life. Time is everything. Of course we don't want to compromise quality in anyway, that's where discipline comes into picture.

    F1, MotoGP and any other of races, even 100m sprints and half and full marathon runners, all cut down weight which is not required. Just for facts, MotoGP machines are just 155kg and an average marathon runner weighs around 58-60kg. Believe me, they are all pretty fast. Imagine running 42km in 2hrs :P


    As an introduction, I'm 6 feet tall, 68 kg (lanky ) and 30 years in age. However, my recent achievements include winning the fastest man around the BIC-5.14km (yes, the F1 track) on foot in 21min apart from that I've been 3rd, 4th and 5th in recent fitness competitions. I ran 1st half marathon in 2hr and 10 min and I can still achieve a top speed of 29-30kmph. But I'm happy because I'm competing with people who are into full time fitness, i.e. working out 2-3hrs a day and taking training sessions for others during free time.


    What I have also observed is with time after 25-26yrs, your body starts to resist any change you're trying to take it through. Whether it's weight gain, weight loss, improving speed or strength. Thus, you can only improve your body by a margin as you age beyond 26yrs. That's our "running in" period you can say

    As a background of my physical condition, I'm a trained in Taekwond-do, Karate, did 3 months of kickboxing (left because it's a full contact sport and I was working), trained in freestyle dance, jazz, ballet and chhau. Around a year ago, I started running and have loved it ever since. People in sports bike forums discuss about back pain, but I'm never able to relate to it, cos I haven't experienced it. I've ridden an R15 for around 4 years and now riding a Ninja 250(over 2 years) on which I have recently installed woodcraft clip-ons for more aggressive riding posture.

    For my fitness regime, I'm currently planning to defend my position for the fastest man around BIC so recently started more of running.
    Before I share the exercises, I'd like to give a strong disclaimer on a few things.
    Drink loads of water (at least 4 liters a day), have a balanced diet which has carbohydrates, vitamins, minerals proteins and required amount of fat and take adequate reset.
    On Monday, I start with a full body workout which involves burning 1000 calories in 1 hr. It includes combination of warm up, body weight workout/cross training(HIIT - High intensity interval training), strength training, cardio, kick boxing and cool down. This builds up strength and stamina along with focus, all at the same time.
    People might think why I'm loosing calories even though I'm thin? the answer is I'm not loosing weight and loosing calories only. I haven't gained or lost a kg since the past 6 months, although I would like to gain a few any time, but not on the tummy
    Tuesday includes strict kick boxing, I like venting out all the bad thoughts and emotions on my punching bag for over 30 min. Using fists, elbows, knees, shins and foot in all the possible ways I know. Just an FYI, this burns around 400-500calories in 30-40 min and is a very good core workout after dancing. I ensure to warm up and stretch before beating the bag

    Wednesday is cardio, running or cycling. Running for atleast 10km and if it's cycle it's 20Km atleast. It goes without saying that I always measure and attempt to beat my last time.

    Thursday is strength training full body workout, from kneck/shoulder to calves. I do time bound workout in which the weight never counts only the reps do.
    This started off when I was in martial arts, to speed up my punches I was asked to do 200 punches and try to cut down that time. That's how I built a strong and wide upper back which people call "wings". The secret to Bruce Lees fast punches lies strongly on his wide back muscles.
    Friday
    is technical training. I know quite some ground and pound technique used in modern MMA arenas. Apart from that I practice technical patterns of Taekwon-do. By technical I mean something in the lines of that "wax on-wax off" thing from "the karate kid".
    Saturday is comparatively comfortable. I do loads of stretching and yoga. sometime only 30 min, sometime around an hr. Depends on how much time I have, cos we all like to enjoy saturdays
    Few things I don't do - skip break fast, starve, consume hard drinks, smoking, eat frequently from outside, sleep less than 7hrs a day(at times it goes to 8, sometimes 9 but not more )

    Btw, staying fit is not only important to riding, but in your day to day activities. Youngsters can work harder and more efficiently that older employees. The only thing you can do to save your job is stay fit and work better than them. During riding in traffic you are more alert if you're fit. You can take accidents my easily, not that any one wants to go that way but still. Another reason why we all have insurance

    That's about it guys, please feel free to ask any questions and I'm open to any sort of feedback or advice you have for me. Continue to workout in which ever way you can. Lead a healthy life and you can enjoy riding even longer. Big thanks to @The Monk for bringing up this discussion. I would one day want to share a work out session with you.
    I don't know how may of other readers would relate or appreciate this, but was certainly worth sharing.
    Last edited by R-series; 12-22-2014, 07:51 PM.
    Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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    • #47
      Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

      Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
      @The Monk : All taken in good sense
      Bu like to point out that strength and stamina is different things. And people get confused with them. The labour you saw is mix of both, and let me tell you why, they are far away from junk food, they mostly eat raw/ uncooked food which preserves all the nutrients.
      Its a personal choice what one wants to achieve, comparing Bruce Lee to Arnold is comparing ZMA to Duke. Athletic fitness is totally different point, and maintaining a physique is different.
      As you said legs are very important part which people miss, and I request all my known to give one day just for legs. Its the base for your body, it has to be strong.
      Yes Prateek. That is my point exactly. The two are very different. And a lot of people hit the gym and build biceps for fitness, while they might be better off playing football in their neighbourhood. Often because in our urban environs, the gym is the automatic choice for getting fit. Just trying to showcase an alternative.

      I don't compare the Duke and ZMA, nor did i compare the legends. I was trying to bring forth the difference so that people might make an informed decision as to what road do they want to walk down. If a person wants a sculpted physique, then the Gym is the best option of course.

      When i used to workout in a gym, i used to do legs with the same weights as the instructors, but for upper body i barely used heavier weights than most women! An excessively large trunk and thin legs is a common sight among Indian men who frequent gyms for the simple reason that they don't workout that part of the body because it cannot be showed off like biceps and triceps

      Originally posted by R-series View Post

      Btw, staying fit is not only important to riding, but in your day to day activities. Youngsters can work harder and more efficiently that older employees. The only thing you can do to save your job is stay fit and work better than them. During riding in traffic you are more alert if you're fit. You can take accidents my easily, not that any one wants to go that way but still. Another reason why we all have insurance

      That's about it guys, please feel free to ask any questions and I'm open to any sort of feedback or advice you have for me. Continue to workout in which ever way you can. Lead a healthy life and you can enjoy riding even longer. Big thanks to @The_Monk for bringing up this discussion. I would one day want to share a work out session with you.
      I don't know how may of other readers would relate or appreciate this, but was certainly worth sharing.
      Sirjee i was suitably impressed when i had met you. After reading your training regime i am completely blown away. Would love to improve my workout to make it better all round, though cycling will be my central fitness method.

      I stay in Green Park now, so if you happen to workout somewhere around the place, then it would be fun to catch up and pace myself against you. Though i should admit in advance that i am nowhere in your league.

      Cheers and thanks for sharing this information with us.
      Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

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      • #48
        Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

        Originally posted by The Monk View Post
        I stay in Green Park now, so if you happen to workout somewhere around the place, then it would be fun to catch up and pace myself against you. Though i should admit in advance that i am nowhere in your league.

        Cheers and thanks for sharing this information with us.
        Arre no worries yaar, I wasn't born this way either. Takes some practice and consistency only. I just like good company no reason to compete. I'm sure well have a good time.

        Will plan out something for an 1hr or so. Got a few other xbhpians I know that might be interested. Will prepare 3 circuit training schedule for 15 min each. Total of 45 min (excluding breaks)

        Let the new year celebrations pass by and we'll plan something in Jan or so. We can plan a workout get together. If people like it, we can make this a regular G2G . Since it's cold, I hope people wouldn't mind shedding some calories and sweating out.

        Is there a good place nearby like a park or a garden that we can use to plan this activity?
        Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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        • #49
          Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

          Originally posted by R-series View Post
          Arre no worries yaar, I wasn't born this way either. Takes some practice and consistency only. I just like good company no reason to compete. I'm sure well have a good time.
          Is there a good place nearby like a park or a garden that we can use to plan this activity?
          Yes that sounds like a splendid plan. I will be out of a town for Christmas, so the new year would be a good time to start.

          The best place i can think off is right next the xBhp Dhaba in Qutab Institutional Area. Sanjay Van has plenty of space for cycling, running and grassy open spaces for other forms of exercise. Also since it will near the xBhp Dhaba, we can gain all those lost calories immediately

          Please do make a plan and post it, even 4-5 guys get together, lets do it, if others are interested they will surely join in.
          Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

          Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

          Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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          • #50
            Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

            Originally posted by The Monk View Post
            Yes that sounds like a splendid plan. I will be out of a town for Christmas, so the new year would be a good time to start.

            The best place i can think off is right next the xBhp Dhaba in Qutab Institutional Area. Sanjay Van has plenty of space for cycling, running and grassy open spaces for other forms of exercise. Also since it will near the xBhp Dhaba, we can gain all those lost calories immediately

            Please do make a plan and post it, even 4-5 guys get together, lets do it, if others are interested they will surely join in.
            Oh yes, I love that place. Went there sometime in August. Splendid place to workout in nature. 26th Jan is a Monday and a holiday. How about 25th Jan (Sunday) will that be possible for you?
            Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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            • #51
              Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

              Finally thread is balanced with different approach towards physical fitness.

              @R-series
              What kind of shoes do you prefer for marathon or long distance running? Any pointers on barefoot running.

              It is said some fat on body is good for extreme survival situations. Wouldn't ridding all body fat(fat-free-body) put us at a disadvantage in certain situations?

              @The Monk
              I remember reading about effects of severe cycling on pc-muscle. I unable to locate the article/source URL.
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              • #52
                Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                And here I am who took 40 minutes to walk 4kms this morning

                Ride safe and have fun.
                Regards
                Nadeem

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                • #53
                  Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                  Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                  Finally thread is balanced with different approach towards physical fitness.

                  @R-series
                  What kind of shoes do you prefer for marathon or long distance running? Any pointers on barefoot running.

                  It is said some fat on body is good for extreme survival situations. Wouldn't ridding all body fat(fat-free-body) put us at a disadvantage in certain situations?
                  .
                  For running I have a normal sport shoe from lotto. But I prefer a shoe which has continuous threads at on the sole. Most sport shoes have a gap between front rear part at the bottom which I personally feel are not as good as those continuous ones.

                  You are absolutely right about fat. But if you are not a professional athlete or workout at least twice a day and are on dieting at the same time you cannot reduce your fat percentage close to 10. I'm currently at 14% which I believe I can reduce another percent but not more.
                  For reference hrithik was below 10% for krrish and shah rukh came down to 7% for happy new year. So now you know anything close to 15% is appropriate. On the web you will see 14% -17% is ideal for a fit person. Beyond that, 20-21% is also acceptable.
                  Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                  • #54
                    Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                    Originally posted by nadz11.ns View Post
                    And here I am who took 40 minutes to walk 4kms this morning
                    That is not bad at all, 40minutes is a good pace for walking 4km. Running however, is a whole different ball game.
                    Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                    • #55
                      Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                      Originally posted by R-series View Post
                      That is not bad at all, 40minutes is a good pace for walking 4km. Running however, is a whole different ball game.
                      Not bad! That's a relief then
                      Actually I have just started out. I am slightly heavy (83kgs for 5'10", 23years) and get easily out of breath. Running will start after a month or so of getting used to doing some work.

                      Ride safe and have fun.
                      Regards
                      Nadeem

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                      • #56
                        Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                        Going to start from tomorrow walking then slowly running pace currently weighing 75-80Kgs. Difficult to get up in the winter But determined to get up early

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                        • #57
                          Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                          Originally posted by neil9381 View Post
                          Going to start from tomorrow walking then slowly running pace currently weighing 75-80Kgs. Difficult to get up in the winter But determined to get up early
                          Same here. No matter how many consecutive alarms i keep, i just feel too damn lazy to get up. Its been a month now that i set the alarm, and in the morning, i think to myself, maybe tomorrow :banghead:

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                          • #58
                            Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                            Originally posted by R-series View Post
                            Oh yes, I love that place. Went there sometime in August. Splendid place to workout in nature. 26th Jan is a Monday and a holiday. How about 25th Jan (Sunday) will that be possible for you?
                            Will message you about planning the same.

                            Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                            Finally thread is balanced with different approach towards physical fitness.

                            @R-series
                            What kind of shoes do you prefer for marathon or long distance running? Any pointers on barefoot running.

                            It is said some fat on body is good for extreme survival situations. Wouldn't ridding all body fat(fat-free-body) put us at a disadvantage in certain situations?

                            @The Monk
                            I remember reading about effects of severe cycling on pc-muscle. I unable to locate the article/source URL.
                            Read a book called 'Born To Run', the place where the recent barefoot running fad has started. A lot of amateur runners love to run barefoot in grass, unfortunately since modern human beings grow up wearing shoes always, our feet are extremely tender and unfit to actually run barefoot. I use canvas sneakers aka Jungle boots for cycling and running. It has a very hard sole, and i like that, but it is not everybody's cup of tea.

                            Extreme survival situations are going to be very few and far between to find in this lifetime!!! And however hard you try you won't lose all body fat, extreme body builders go down to 7%, we are closer to 20%, enough to see you through the long winter

                            That is a myth which is oft repeated about the bad effects of cycling. It happens to very few people who use incorrect techniques to clock up the miles on a cycle. Using wrong technique will always cause injury irrespective of whether you are running, weight lifting, body building. Learning correct technique is extremely important in any sport.

                            Also, professional cyclists clock 25k kms in a year. Most of us don't even do that on a motorcycle, much less a cycle. If i average 20km a day as an amateur that results in less than 5k kms in a year. If nothing happens to those guys who have been at it for years, how will anything happen to me when i am just doing one-fifth of it. Also think of the other sports, whether it is football, body building, contact sports or even motorcycling. How often do these sports cause injury? Cycling is harmless in comparison

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                            Also for those not being able to get up and go out because of the cold winter mornings. The cheapest, simplest method of getting started is buying yourself a skipping rope and an exercise mat.

                            Pushups, skipping and crunches are good way to get the blood flowing without having to leave the comfort of your house. Once you start exercising, you will want to do more, and can then choose gyming, cycling, swimming or a host of other sports which require more dedication and finances.
                            Biking is not about what you have between your legs, its all about how well you use it!!!!!!!

                            Give your details here if you want to help your fellow xBhpian stranded in your city

                            Touring Blog: Cycling in Mongolia!

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                            • #59
                              Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                              I would not mind doing crunches, but a friend said, it would stiffen the underlying muscle but not reduce the tummy fat.. Is that true?

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                              • #60
                                Re: The Gymnasium thread: A guide

                                Originally posted by abhi7013 View Post
                                I would not mind doing crunches, but a friend said, it would stiffen the underlying muscle but not reduce the tummy fat.. Is that true?

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                                Right, Crunches are muscle focused exercise. Not fat burning. Similar to Dumbells curls. But including that in your workout would keep your core strong and help in manoeuvring your body in sports and help in overall balance.
                                Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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