Erm,

Top end depends on a lot of factors.. I have blabbered a lot on this already so will request other senior riders to elaborate more on this.

Regardless the top end is limited by stock sprockets to 135 kmph on the speedo reading. If you want to hit a higher top end but at the expense of reduced hooliganism acceleration then shift to 15T front sprocket. The theoretical top end will be 145 kmph.

BTW: The kit provided to me by RC is 182cc and not 185cc.. are you sure you got the specification what you have mentioned??

Cheers,

I'm going to swap my 15T back to the 14T and see how much better the "hooliganism" is with a 200cc.
I can't remember what my bike was like to ride with a 14T as I had swapped it so long ago.

HI Mik,
"Hooliganism"...Hahahaha!!!
I can remember that I did not feel any difference while switching from 14 to 15 teeth....!

To all:
All that is theory (although physically true): to call "hooliganism" riding a miserable 153, or 182, or 185, or 200, or 205cc (like mine) is laughable!
What about getting back down to earth, guys???
What we have are just pleasant, easy to ride, low quality but acceptable enough, little capacity sporty looking bikes, hardly able to get their front wheel off the ground in first gear, nothing to get all excited about, nothing that is going to pull out your wrists.
You want power?: get a one liter class bike, a Ducati Monstro or the like: THAT will be "hooliganism" (still considering it, Mik?).

Joel is not only an engineer, but a professional race bike rider. He was certainly wearing a tight fit, aerodynamic full race suit, crouched "flat" on the tank and arms and legs right against the bike and his body. On top of that, no measurement was done o wind speed, slope of road, etc, NOR of he accuracy of the meter.
I would call this video: "no scientific evidence"

Well there is a saying: beggars can't be choosers!! ..

in your case due to import restrictions the higher CCs are far out of reach of else you cough out big $s. In our case, well we do have SBKs in the market but priced exhorbitantly, plus majority of us still have reach the stage where holding a bank account of 15 Lakhs INR just for buying an SBK will be may be when we hit 50!!


So you make do with what you have... the puny 150cc converted to 180cc and 200cc going crazy in Vietnam!!

If you have figured out by now, most of the riders who intend to shift to hot roding or would want to experience it, have absolutely no idea of what they are getting into. They are greedy looking for mileage of over 60 kmpl and also want a power of a 600cc motor.. So in Indian context yes.. 14T and 15T shift and a slight change in gearing makes a world of difference to them


Cheers,

I completely agree with Luke. As Joel said it's reliability on high speeds, mileage are the main advantages of the big-bore. And I also doubt the accuracy of the speedo. What I feel after hot rodding is that bike is more free than stock. With stock bike I was feeling like something is holding up but with the modded one it's very free. The speed jumps up in no time. It just takes seconds to reach 100-110 and after 110 it acts like the stock bike. It takes enough time to reach 116-118. And about the mileage part : It's Joel who said that mileage will be increased by God margin so there is no sense in accusing the people who do it for mileage. All that prominent is that bike should run on right mixture. And on that it doesn't matter if the mileage is just 45km/l or 60 km/l.

I think Mr. Shv, it's better you do experience the hot rodding of fz-16 and get into more knowledge spreading things. Hope you will not keep us wait for months. And the difference between my bike and yours will be just the FFE. I'm with the stock and you are with the FFE.

yes mileage does increase by a good margin.. but one also must understand its a simple science.. if one wants more agressive power then the fe will go down. what joel has promised stands true to a moderately tuned/ or i should say normally tuned ride.. what i am talking about is a hardcore souped up ride.. i have already experienced hotroding with R170 so it is not new to me

unfortunately due to personal commitments things are getting delayed with the fz.. it shall begin by the second week of jan and the same shall reflect on fz 18 thread.

in your case like you have experienced, your ride is getting stuck coz of tuning issues and stock exhaust limitations.. but regardless lets verify that with the data i put it across soon.

cheers,

I am afraid you misunderstood my post, dear!
What I am basically saying is that the change from 14 to 15 teeth (whichever way) is not perceivable, and it would make to no-one a "world of difference", but only in their mind.

In some guy's mind too - a level one "souped-up" FZ16 with hardly more that Joel's BB kit makes this bike a "monster", a "beast" a "hooligan".. Hahahaha! Poor boys!: I wish you one day ride a BIKE: one that will instantly see you sitting on the road if you open the throttle a bit too fast, that will pull away your arms, that will jump from zero to TWO hundred by the time the FZ 16 has reached ONE hundred, etc.... !
This has nothing to do with how much it costs, how much riding experience one has: just call a cat a cat, and stop exaggerating on the "impressive" power, "fantastic" torque, blah blah blah of this puny engine!!
The FZ16, whatever you'll do to it, will NEVER be a "beast", a "monster" or whatever could make one a "road hooligan".
All that is a ridiculous abuse of superlatives: seems one is reading an advertizing for washing powder!

.. More so when after the mod one starts "smoking" cars, bikes and whatever one finds moving on the road.. when the latter may not even be interested in joining the fun..

G'day Luc, Merry Xmas and happy new yr.
I am still considering the Ducati 795 (mini) Monster. I call it a "mini" monster as its a frankenstein Duc, made for the shorter lighter Asian market, rather than the EU, USA, AU markets.
USD$15,700 I believe is the price, Around USD$17k ride away. I've yet to go visit the dealership but spoke with the owner at the Saigon Bike Show held in Khumo towers a few months back.
This will need to be test ridden of course and if I can handle it (since I've only ridden a 250cc Hyosung as the biggest bike so far) then I'll probably buy one.
Then I'll have to change the exhaust with a nice pair of Termignoni pipes and cans. Need to get the right sound first

I have gotten a A2 lic now, I havn't picked it up as it was ready just when I was getting on the plane to fly to work. The dealership can also "help" with the A2 lic (for a fee of course but how much is yet to be asked)

My work mate here has a 1400cc Ninja, another work mate has a Harley Chopper with a big bore kit out to just under 2000cc and a R6. He weighs around 50kg and he is a little speed demon on the long open country roads. Theres also a 1300cc Suzuki naked bike that has the biggest looking megaphone type exhaust on it I've ever seen on a bike, Imagine a wave muffler just make it about 10 times bigger!!

And surely you are one of those lazy guys which makes the journey boring..........

Surely joelled Fz-16 isn't a monster, a beast, a hooligan or whatever but when it comes comparing with stock 150cc - 180cc bikes, its really more powerful. What i feel comparing to stock is bike is more free and torquey. After tasting the big-bore, I don't think I can ever revert back to stock even at the cost of engine seizure. What I ought to draw the line is stock Fz-16 should have been more powerful atleast 180cc in the offering

I buy my vehicles keeping their purpose in mind.. I will never end up buying a 150 cc then somehow increase its power by a couple of bhps and start smoking others!!

Even if I buy a 250R someday, I will not start 'smoking' others and concentrate on enjoying the ride.. The end product is enjoyment!
You gain it by 'smoking' others.. I gain it by riding the bike the way I want..I cruise between 60-80 rarely 90 k/h and thats about it!! Still remain the fastest on road(ppl in hyd drive/ride at 60 max.). When I encounter a guy trying to smoke me with a 220 - Firstly, getting into a race with him will spoil my cruise. Secondly, I will be endangering the lives of many other commuters on road who will be panic braking etc seeing us changing lanes fast ahead of them (many of them would be female drivers sharing the road with us), some hot-blooded ones like you will join us in the fun making it impossible to ascertain who is smoking whom! Thirdly, I will be 5 mins early to office (I will lose 5 mins of my cruise.. and I love riding you see ) These 5 mins will be much much more boring than what you can imagine.

My journeys aren't boring.. Sorry, If you are relying on me to make yours interesting.

You haven't done your homework well. I had already clarified you earlier about smoking cars. Unless you ride a bike in place like kerala where there is terrain area with full of zig zag roads and you must understand that it's difficult for a car to perform as good as bikes because of less space of overtaking on single roads. People staying on a flat deccan plateau region can't and will not able to understand the roads here. Sorry for being offensive on that.

Once again I will remind you that I myself own a car and i always do speeds ranging from 120-130 and I know the capabilities of a car. When I said about smoking cars then you must understand why and where and what. You must get into that thread and make your eyes and mind spread wide open and read. When I review about an upgrade, I will place things according to the perspective and which is fact.

It doesn't matter if the vehicles with me are interested or not, it matters how the modded babe performs. It's just to remind people that stock Fz-16 is underpowered vehicle in the 150cc range of bikes and I just want others to understand what my modded bike has done with the upgrades and also with lots of headaches like chances of engine seizure and tuning issues.

Increasing power and overtaking other vehicles is a personal choice. If you are lazy to that then you have no right to poke others. I haven't heard somebody writing in this form as Ride slow rather they write Ride Safe. And that's what I do. I don't ride rashly and when I ride fast, it's always under my control and it's only when there is clear traffic. And all my rides will be mostly early morning where there will be less traffic. That's why when you poke others, I remind you to do your homework well.

It doesn't matter how early or how late you reach the office, it's one's personal choice. As shv18 also reminded you, we are not interested in city dragging, making loud noises and messing up with the engine.

Hope you will think from my side rather than creating your own imaginations.

Guys can anyone here provide me with the size of fz's gudgeon pin. Thanks in advance.