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  • Originally posted by anirudh fz1 View Post
    u wrote that you r running on stock filters ,what if you opened up airbox a little bit ,u could be getting more air inside
    Thats for later, coz I'll be heavily leaning the mixture and the MAP sensor will get disrupted.
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    • well u r a software engineer and did so much that only a trained automobile engineer can do..how??i mean where did u learn the rules of the trade from..and like u said that putting a k&n wud have reduced the top end, does that hold for carburetted bikes also??
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      • Originally posted by Joel View Post
        Thats for later, coz I'll be heavily leaning the mixture and the MAP sensor will get disrupted.
        joel ,what if i opened up airbox cover on my fz & make mixture rich using af ratio screw on the carb only(mikuni bs -26) ,can it run ok ,
        if you have seen the air box setup on fz under the seat , there is no place for good amount of air to go in ,even intake sound changes when u remove the seat and revv it
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        • price

          HI frnd m new in xbhp n beginner in bikes

          hi joel bhaiya can u post da price of each n were can i get all dis parts

          Engine:
          *Ported and polished cylinder head with altered port geometry
          *Custom valve springs
          *Stock Valve sizes
          *Stage 1 spec camshaft with custom ground profile
          *High compression set-up
          *Modified cylinder and stock piston
          *Fine tuning and set-up corrections
          *Stock airbox and filter
          *Stock throttle body and intake tract

          Fuel management:
          *Stock Injector
          *Stock ECU + coil
          *Altered AFR values for fuelling inputs

          Gearing:
          *Stock sprockets
          *Stock Gearbox
          *Stock Clutch

          External:
          *Stock looks
          *Hand crafted Tuned Free Flow exhaust
          *Full stock weight, no lightening

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          • Originally posted by satajit.2009 View Post
            HI frnd m new in xbhp n beginner in bikes

            hi joel bhaiya can u post da price of each n were can i get all dis parts

            Engine:
            *Ported and polished cylinder head with altered port geometry
            *Custom valve springs
            *Stock Valve sizes
            *Stage 1 spec camshaft with custom ground profile
            *High compression set-up
            *Modified cylinder and stock piston
            *Fine tuning and set-up corrections
            *Stock airbox and filter
            *Stock throttle body and intake tract

            Fuel management:
            *Stock Injector
            *Stock ECU + coil
            *Altered AFR values for fuelling inputs

            Gearing:
            *Stock sprockets
            *Stock Gearbox
            *Stock Clutch

            External:
            *Stock looks
            *Hand crafted Tuned Free Flow exhaust
            *Full stock weight, no lightening
            Lolz....
            if these parts were available in the market, almost all the guyz in this community would have got them for their bikes

            "STOCK" means original factory fitted parts. so u already get these on the bike when u purchase it....
            n the rest is all "Custom-made" means built by the TUNER by himself, for himself, according to his needs....

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            • Originally posted by satajit.2009 View Post

              hi joel bhaiya can u post da price of each n were can i get all dis parts
              Trust me, I have no words!

              I have spent countless man hours over days and built the engine and people are asking, where they can buy the set-up. Welcome to xbhp!
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              • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                Trust me, I have no words!

                I have spent countless man hours over days and built the engine and people are asking, where they can buy the set-up. Welcome to xbhp!
                It's those that have have no clue that will ask such things. Best to just let them be and ignore them I say. (Perhaps a good dose of sarcasm is a good second option? )
                I may be relatively new in this forum, but from what I have seen you make thing happen with these machines that I have the greatest respect for. Please keep it up, surprise and amaze us with the things that are possible.

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                • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                  Trust me, I have no words!

                  I have spent countless man hours over days and built the engine and people are asking, where they can buy the set-up. Welcome to xbhp!

                  on second thoughts...yea why not ...
                  once you have exploited the potential of the R15 ...go ahead and make a few for your friends who are willing to put in the money
                  you can keep a percentge aside for profits for you to somewhat recover your cost and the price of your knowlege
                  I for one would be interested in investing in my machine 6 months down the line

                  p.s :unless ofcourse if you have a different plan altogether
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                  • Originally posted by darkknight View Post

                    on second thoughts...yea why not ...
                    once you have exploited the potential of the R15 ...go ahead and make a few for your friends who are willing to put in the money
                    you can keep a percentge aside for profits for you to somewhat recover your cost and the price of your knowlege
                    I for one would be interested in investing in my machine 6 months down the line

                    p.s :unless ofcourse if you have a different plan altogether
                    I don't pretend that I know what goes on inside Joel's head, but I think I have a fair idea.
                    It's not the fact that someone wants a similar setup. It's the fact that someone who obviously does not have even the slightest clue (evident from also listing the stock parts along with the modified parts) is asking where these parts can be bought. As if these things cost no time and effort to perfect. If someone like you and me approached him, asking how to go about it and maybe getting some help, I have a feeling it could be a different story.

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                    • ^well said.
                      I do have plans of making my developments available to a layman in a short while. I have been recieving countless mails and PMs on the same and I have laid out my plans. With yamaha butchering customers with a heavy price tag and offering lower performance than expected is something I wanna beat now. Give more and better for less.
                      I can openly state that I can build a bike much faster than the race kitted Yamaha R15 which is priced at 60k, for half the cost. More powerful,faster, more reliable and super streetable. You can tour or race or do what you want with the set-up.
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                      • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                        ^well said.
                        I do have plans of making my developments available to a layman in a short while. I have been recieving countless mails and PMs on the same and I have laid out my plans. With yamaha butchering customers with a heavy price tag and offering lower performance than expected is something I wanna beat now. Give more and better for less.
                        I can openly state that I can build a bike much faster than the race kitted Yamaha R15 which is priced at 60k, for half the cost. More powerful,faster, more reliable and super streetable. You can tour or race or do what you want with the set-up.
                        Great news for those who own an R15 and live near B'lore. I am also sure Yamaha will feel the sting of that too. Anyway, what this country lacks is some good motorcycle tuners. I think this will be one step towards having an interesting biker scene.

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                        • Originally posted by Andante View Post
                          Great news for those who own an R15 and live near B'lore. I am also sure Yamaha will feel the sting of that too. Anyway, what this country lacks is some good motorcycle tuners. I think this will be one step towards having an interesting biker scene.
                          I can offer stuff for anyone in the country and not restricted to Bangalore alone. Bangalore is yet to realise a lot of things, other cities are worse. Its more bling than go here when it comes to 4-strokes and I have seriously fingered some 2-stroke fanatics and proven a thing or two with 4-strokes.

                          When it comes to tuning, people here are only interested in copying. I know of the no of people who are on my tail to sneak into what I do and make some quick bucks. However copying will never teach them anything but will surely earn a lot of money coz they save the time and money with development.
                          Back in 2005, I built my first tuned freeflow on my Fiero 200 and the performance gains were something else. I once took the exhaust to a tinker to re-fabricate one section and in 6 months I could see some multiple copies of what i built all over the town. The dimensions were all wrong however and those pipes were more in favour of farting than moving. But who knows dimensions are more important than the looks.

                          Even on xbhp, I get PMs and mails from fellow members who wanna know what exactly i have built. many seek ideas for their builds and expect me to give every detailed aspect, while it has taken me some serious money and crazy efforts to get there. This is a short-cut country. No body wants to exploit, all want to only replicate.

                          I see a lot of posts on xbhp about porting a 4-stroke head. If even 1% of the people here realise what it takes to make a good flowing port and what goes into my build, that would be something else. Porting as per most is merely enlarging the port and for most its a childs play. Big deal just remove the metal and voila you have a fast bike! How I wish it was that easy.
                          Next is the big-bore craze. Shov a larger piston and fly?
                          You are going nowhere fast except for merely making some more torque at lower revs. Put the bike on a dyno and you'll see its loosing power at higher revs over a stock engine.
                          Building a big-bore engine is again a cake-walk here, according to the experts here.

                          The reason why people are ignorant is coz they get all the technical gyaan from their friendly neighbourhood mechanic who is purely an illiterate. Atleast 90% of the mechanics are illiterates and almost all have a very unorthodox and non-technical approach towards tuning. Basics are not in place.
                          Anybody who can remove and put back things and fix can become a mechanic, but a tuner is something else. Since anything to do with engines is considered as a dirty business with greasy hands, is why this scene is still stuck at this. A mechanic is still some giddu or chottu who will remain in the scene for the next 30-40yrs. Then his son grows and takes over with the same culture in place.
                          All the educated ones are busy earning some serious salary at some big MNCs and nobody except for a handful are serious about tuning in this country. And almost all the bikers are stuck with the illiterate mechs.
                          I for one, have my own approach towards tuning which is way radical than what i have seen with others. I'm glad I have got to this much in such a short time, coz of my approach. FYI, I'm not even a mechanical or automobile engineer. I hold a bachelor degree in Business Management. So whats the connection?
                          Thats some serious, I mean dead serious interest levels, commitment, innovative thinking, money and patience.
                          I eat, walk, talk, sleep, dream engines.

                          Joel
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                          • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                            I can offer stuff for anyone in the country and not restricted to Bangalore alone. Bangalore is yet to realise a lot of things, other cities are worse. Its more bling than go here when it comes to 4-strokes and I have seriously fingered some 2-stroke fanatics and proven a thing or two with 4-strokes.

                            When it comes to tuning, people here are only interested in copying. I know of the no of people who are on my tail to sneak into what I do and make some quick bucks. However copying will never teach them anything but will surely earn a lot of money coz they save the time and money with development.
                            Back in 2005, I built my first tuned freeflow on my Fiero 200 and the performance gains were something else. I once took the exhaust to a tinker to re-fabricate one section and in 6 months I could see some multiple copies of what i built all over the town. The dimensions were all wrong however and those pipes were more in favour of farting than moving. But who knows dimensions are more important than the looks.

                            Even on xbhp, I get PMs and mails from fellow members who wanna know what exactly i have built. many seek ideas for their builds and expect me to give every detailed aspect, while it has taken me some serious money and crazy efforts to get there. This is a short-cut country. No body wants to exploit, all want to only replicate.

                            I see a lot of posts on xbhp about porting a 4-stroke head. If even 1% of the people here realise what it takes to make a good flowing port and what goes into my build, that would be something else. Porting as per most is merely enlarging the port and for most its a childs play. Big deal just remove the metal and voila you have a fast bike! How I wish it was that easy.
                            Next is the big-bore craze. Shov a larger piston and fly?
                            You are going nowhere fast except for merely making some more torque at lower revs. Put the bike on a dyno and you'll see its loosing power at higher revs over a stock engine.
                            Building a big-bore engine is again a cake-walk here, according to the experts here.

                            The reason why people are ignorant is coz they get all the technical gyaan from their friendly neighbourhood mechanic who is purely an illiterate. Atleast 90% of the mechanics are illiterates and almost all have a very unorthodox and non-technical approach towards tuning. Basics are not in place.
                            Anybody who can remove and put back things and fix can become a mechanic, but a tuner is something else. Since anything to do with engines is considered as a dirty business with greasy hands, is why this scene is still stuck at this. A mechanic is still some giddu or chottu who will remain in the scene for the next 30-40yrs. Then his son grows and takes over with the same culture in place.
                            All the educated ones are busy earning some serious salary at some big MNCs and nobody except for a handful are serious about tuning in this country. And almost all the bikers are stuck with the illiterate mechs.
                            I for one, have my own approach towards tuning which is way radical than what i have seen with others. I'm glad I have got to this much in such a short time, coz of my approach. FYI, I'm not even a mechanical or automobile engineer. I hold a bachelor degree in Business Management. So whats the connection?
                            Thats some serious, I mean dead serious interest levels, commitment, innovative thinking, money and patience.
                            I eat, walk, talk, sleep, dream engines.

                            Joel
                            Man! That was well said
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                            • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                              Back in 2005, I built my first tuned freeflow on my Fiero 200 and the performance gains were something else. I once took the exhaust to a tinker to re-fabricate one section and in 6 months I could see some multiple copies of what i built all over the town. The dimensions were all wrong however and those pipes were more in favour of farting than moving. But who knows dimensions are more important than the looks.
                              Unbelievable!

                              Originally posted by Joel View Post
                              All the educated ones are busy earning some serious salary at some big MNCs and nobody except for a handful are serious about tuning in this country. And almost all the bikers are stuck with the illiterate mechs.
                              So true! We can only hope that things do change for the better in this country.

                              Originally posted by Joel View Post
                              Thats some serious, I mean dead serious interest levels, commitment, innovative thinking, money and patience.
                              I eat, walk, talk, sleep, dream engines.
                              Hats of to you, bro!
                              Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                              • Originally posted by Joel View Post
                                I can offer stuff for anyone in the country and not restricted to Bangalore alone. Bangalore is yet to realise a lot of things, other cities are worse. Its more bling than go here when it comes to 4-strokes and I have seriously fingered some 2-stroke fanatics and proven a thing or two with 4-strokes.

                                When it comes to tuning, people here are only interested in copying. I know of the no of people who are on my tail to sneak into what I do and make some quick bucks. However copying will never teach them anything but will surely earn a lot of money coz they save the time and money with development.
                                I do hope people from all over India realize the worth of what you're trying to establish here. It would be great to have some serious tuning going on. (Ahmedabad doesn't have many posers, the ones that are there generally just run your regular open pipe and nothing else.)

                                And copying, well, that's the story of this place isn't it? Everyone wants to make a quick buck and doesn't care for much if anything more than that. That's just the way it is, but at some point people will realize that getting cheap copies is not going to gain them what they want. Since the bikes that get your tuning will be flying past them.

                                Aside from all that, it doesn't matter what you've studied. Dedication and perseverance always pay off in the end.

                                I am a software engineer with an interest in electronics and microcontrollers, I just wish I had the time and space to learn enough to create my own ecu. I know it can be done, there's enough projects online that cater to car engines. So why not bikes. Anyway, going way OT.

                                Respect to you for the things you do. And I'm sure plenty of people here will agree.
                                Last edited by Andante; 08-14-2009, 06:22 PM.

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