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  • hifisharu
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    Wanted to get an upgraded battery for the R15, but found out no other higher ampere-hr rating battery can be accommodated.

    The Tata green one is a dry type VRLA battery. No substitute available

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  • HydBiker
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    Originally posted by santoosh View Post
    R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.
    2 x 5W bulbs plus the instrument console indicator.

    See my case - ran the bike throughout the night for a few times:
    1 x 60W + 1 x 35W head lamp. 2 x 5W pilot lamps. 1 x 5W tail lamp and occasionally 21W when I use brakes. he usual stuff - ECU + FI + Lots of heavy horn + radiator fan + coolant pump + Console...

    Heck, this is superb stamina for a 3.5 Amp battery. Yes, the coil in the R15 is a class act.

    Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
    Where did 3.5 come from !!
    Well, Santa said what exactly I wanted to say.

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  • anilupadhya
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    Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
    Where do u find genuine Bosch or Philips HID and price u mentioned is for a pair, right?
    Havent heard anything for Bosch but below are the addresses for Osram and Philips..
    The last time I enquired about the price for Philips, Mr Mittal quoted 7.4k for a kit with normal ballast.

    Osram Dealer in Bangalore: Reliance Auto Near Minerva Circle, JC Road. Contact : Nilesh Gandhi 9880896117. Osram Marketing Manager: Satya Prasad : 9740000650

    Philips Distributor :
    Contact Sunil Mittal,
    AK Traders
    22/23 1st floor
    3rd cross
    JC road
    Bangalore
    Ph: 9844166794

    Source for the above address information : Philips Vision Plus H4 Bulbs - Page 8 - Team-BHP

    The december issue of Autocar and Overdrive contained an advertisement of a P8 hid conversion kit. They claim to use german technology and from the pictures in the ad, the ballast looked slim and nice. I had contacted them to get a quote and availability. They got back with a price of Rs 8k for the kit and will be available in Bangalore after the 10th of Dec.
    Dealer information:
    MR. RITESH CHORARIA - Director
    M/S CRUST CONCEPT MARKETING PRIVATE LIMITED
    13/13A, 1st Floor, Journlist Colony,
    Thayappa Layout,
    Bangalore - 560 002
    Mobile No 98 440 75931
    Landline No. 41144213, 26707439

    You can also check out Auto Xenon HID Lamps, Best Brand in India .

    Forgot to mention. The Raylux kit purchased by Rahul is now being sold by the same shop for Rs7800 a kit. This was the best price i was quoted. He said the MRP is 9.2k and hence after all the discounts he gets, he is offering it at 7.8k.
    Last edited by anilupadhya; 12-03-2009, 08:03 PM.

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  • santoosh
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    Yep the alternator is Breeliant :-) That does al the job silently .
    Bajaj has never been good with electricals on any of their bike .

    ^^
    Where did 3.5 come from !!
    It came from TATA Green , made in indonesia ,
    Released on 12th June 2008 :-P. From then on 3.5Ah .
    No space for bigger battery.

    Santa

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  • navnish
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    Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
    I thought the R15 comes with 5ah battery.
    Bcz to the best of what I know, batteries are available in 2.5ah, 5ah, 7ah, 9ah and 14ah for 2 wheelers.

    Where did 3.5 come from !!
    the 3.5 came in the R15 when we brought it man :P

    Even i am running the same setup like santa . Even got a volt meter on the bike never had any drop at all. With my experience of doing keeda on the bike . If you wire stuff sensibly then things work. I also have a AFR meter on my bike still it has enough juice for doing some more stuff on it

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  • abhijeet080808
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    Originally posted by santoosh View Post
    nO eXtra power , Its the same on FI and SI (Both are virtually the same bike man) , The FI pump and ECu consume hardly any power > i can vouch for that .

    R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.



    Distribute power well/sensibly and you can run almost anything .

    Santa
    And how powerful is the R15 alternator? I bet it is more than 200W.

    And battery capacity does not really affect how much load the bike can take on a constant basis, alternator capacity does.

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  • Shreeni0403
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    Originally posted by santoosh View Post
    nO eXtra power , Its the same on FI and SI (Both are virtually the same bike man) , The FI pump and ECu consume hardly any power > i can vouch for that .

    R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.



    Distribute power well/sensibly and you can run almost anything .

    Santa
    I thought the R15 comes with 5ah battery.
    Bcz to the best of what I know, batteries are available in 2.5ah, 5ah, 7ah, 9ah and 14ah for 2 wheelers.

    Where did 3.5 come from !!

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  • santoosh
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    nO eXtra power , Its the same on FI and SI (Both are virtually the same bike man) , The FI pump and ECu consume hardly any power > i can vouch for that .

    R15 with 3.5 amp battery running 2 HID's for 25k kms and 21/6 tail lamp bulb + ECU + FI Pump + Radiator Fan + horn + 5 w indicator bulb.

    Running all these at once and still there is enough Juice . that’s on 3.5 Ah battery . You guys have 9Ah and a 200+ watt coil .

    Distribute power well/sensibly and you can run almost anything .

    Santa

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  • drvmtm
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    so some more !!!

    so guys does tat mean pulsy 220 dtsi is having some more power unused comparing to 220 DTSFI? if tat is true then in dtsi,we can use an extra spot lamp or fog lamp about 55w ,one at least?i am attaching some photos ,please comment.......

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  • abhijeet080808
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    Originally posted by santoosh View Post
    If im not wrong , its a 232 watt 3 phase stator coil .

    Santa
    +!. Even I heard the same. But, in case of FI, that power runs the fuel pump, injectors too. So, it is not safe to load it to the max.

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
    Where do u find genuine Bosch or Philips HID and price u mentioned is for a pair, right?
    Yes, Phillips H7 pair is about 7.5 K with normal ballasts. Bosch should be same. There are many dealers in JC Road for the Phillips, but haven't seen any dealers for Bosch.

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  • Shreeni0403
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    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    Phillips one are just 7~8K. I don't find them any great compared to Raylux. After all Phillips is also made in China, but much better quality. Genuine Bosch is better though.
    Where do u find genuine Bosch or Philips HID and price u mentioned is for a pair, right?

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
    Thats good news for me. If incase i go for such a setup i would make sure i go for better wires for sure.
    I don't think you will need better wires than the stock one. You have a fuse and a very sensitive stupid box called "BCU" So wires are the least of the concern.



    Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
    Crack?
    2 HID's are always better but i also need the pass light. People are quite careless here while crossing the roads. They just stop in the middle. To alert them i need the pass light. So i cant use an HID for high beam. Still iam thinking. After i collect the money i have decided to go for a low beam HID for sure. Would think about the high beam later.
    Will there be any difference in illumination provided by the Chinese ones? AFAIK 4300K provides the best illumination.
    You can also try using both beams and then use pass beam, when needed. Basically once the HID are heated up, you can use them as pass as well.

    There's no difference in light intesnisty, but from I experience I was see Chineese ones slowly loosing it's intesity. That takes about atleast 8K kilometers of riding.



    Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
    Good to hear that.

    For time being i have turned back to stock till the time my battery issue gets resolved. Then i will use the dual beam setup.
    Perhaps i may need a better RR. Iam planning to design one.
    In the future i would use either single or dual HID's. But have to collect money for the same. How about Philips HID's? Someone was telling me they cost about 14k per pair. Me and my friend can take one beam each. Are they really worth so much? Can the normal ones also provide the same intensity?
    I would advice against, modifying much on 220, especially FI. Else change the wiring and remove the BCU, and get to manual.

    Phillips one are just 7~8K. I don't find them any great compared to Raylux. After all Phillips is also made in China, but much better quality. Genuine Bosch is better though.

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  • santoosh
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    I read something called as magazines ,brouchers and I interact with people .hear things and remember.

    I just happened to read it even before the 220 dts fi was launched.This is from 2006.
    200 watt 3 phase magneto may be exact.
    Google it if you are so doubtful , You ll find it .else ask me if you cant find it , will send link.
    still doubtful , remove the coil measure it yourself . No rocket science.
    Santa

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  • rahul9985
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    Originally posted by santoosh View Post
    If im not wrong , its a 232 watt 3 phase stator coil .
    Santa
    Are u sure it can generate 232W of power?
    How do u know?

    Originally posted by navnish View Post
    Switching from high to low beam wont damage the ballast. the ballasts is made for taking the maximum beating . If the voltage is low the ballast will automatically shut down. and if the voltage is too high it has a cut out. The ballasts are hardcore man dont worry about it . I would just worry about your wires . Make sure they have a fire proof sleeve

    I am running 2 HIDs on my R15 now from a few weeks. Earlier i just had one HID. And if a R15s punny battery can take the 2 hids and the electrical am sure the p220s battery should work well .
    Thats good news for me. If incase i go for such a setup i would make sure i go for better wires for sure.

    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    55W HID's are difficult to find, and no, they DO NOT provide any significant increase in light output. Best is to go for 35W, proven, easily available and easy on bikes as well.

    100W, would definitely crack the Hi Beam! But anyways when you have a 220, why do you want a 100W, when 2 HID's can provide best illumination?
    And I think both the beam together are the best, better than single 100W.

    Dude in 4K you can get 2 beams. Though of Chinese brand, but with Warranty. I would suggest you go for that, from my experience Chinese works perfectly.
    Crack?
    2 HID's are always better but i also need the pass light. People are quite careless here while crossing the roads. They just stop in the middle. To alert them i need the pass light. So i cant use an HID for high beam. Still iam thinking. After i collect the money i have decided to go for a low beam HID for sure. Would think about the high beam later.
    Will there be any difference in illumination provided by the Chinese ones? AFAIK 4300K provides the best illumination.


    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    The shifting is almost instantaneous, about few milli seconds. And you won't see any dimming or flickering while going to dual mode and vice versa.

    It won't damage the HID as such, if 100Ws of extra load doesn't over stress the electrical.
    Good to hear that.

    For time being i have turned back to stock till the time my battery issue gets resolved. Then i will use the dual beam setup.
    Perhaps i may need a better RR. Iam planning to design one.
    In the future i would use either single or dual HID's. But have to collect money for the same. How about Philips HID's? Someone was telling me they cost about 14k per pair. Me and my friend can take one beam each. Are they really worth so much? Can the normal ones also provide the same intensity?
    Last edited by rahul9985; 12-02-2009, 02:13 AM.

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