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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
    @rahul
    have u figured out 8K RPM problem on which u have also started thread is it resolved??

    i know it is offtopic but i m curious
    Yes, my AFR was too rich, hence the bike did reach good speeds but didn't rev freely.


    Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post
    Put my puny brain to work today to understand the circuit. It was damn simple and i was thinking it to be some rocket science . Much simpler than my brain teasing electronic circuits.
    My doubt is what part of the diagram shows the bulbs, top or bottom?
    Right now my fairing isnt there. So i can do it immediately. Just need a Car Relay for testing it.
    Can i directly cut the wires from outside and do it? Sorry i might sound quite noobish, but the fact is iam .
    Since the wires are directly outside, will cutting them would be fine?

    PS- My battery has a weird problem. The speedo console when it was there used to show low battery indication within 3 seconds of switching on the lights. Now without the console the lights get off pretty soon. But when i got it checked at a few battery dealers they say that the battery is fine. The Multimeter shows 12 or 13V (forgot the figures ). While revving hard (till 8k) the voltage level went till 14.9V. Is it a problem with BCU or RR or battery? The dealer says my battery isnt holding the charge but at the same time not getting low or discharging totally. PLEASE HELP .
    - The top part is the Bulb, or precisely the the HID kit's terminals.
    - Don't cut any wires, just poke them in the bulb socket of the bike. The diagram is reference. Where you see the wires joining the socket, you can tap them to the socket itself rather than any cutting.
    - Your dealer says that battery is not holding charge, that means the battery has gone kaput. It may not fully discharge and even crank but won't take the load of the light.

    But say, if you are constantly running at more than 2-3K RPM, and your light still goes off, it could be a problem with the RR unit.

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  • rahul9985
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    Put my puny brain to work today to understand the circuit. It was damn simple and i was thinking it to be some rocket science . Much simpler than my brain teasing electronic circuits.
    My doubt is what part of the diagram shows the bulbs, top or bottom?
    Right now my fairing isnt there. So i can do it immediately. Just need a Car Relay for testing it.
    Can i directly cut the wires from outside and do it? Sorry i might sound quite noobish, but the fact is iam .
    Since the wires are directly outside, will cutting them would be fine?

    PS- My battery has a weird problem. The speedo console when it was there used to show low battery indication within 3 seconds of switching on the lights. Now without the console the lights get off pretty soon. But when i got it checked at a few battery dealers they say that the battery is fine. The Multimeter shows 12 or 13V (forgot the figures ). While revving hard (till 8k) the voltage level went till 14.9V. Is it a problem with BCU or RR or battery? The dealer says my battery isnt holding the charge but at the same time not getting low or discharging totally. PLEASE HELP .
    Last edited by rahul9985; 11-07-2009, 11:04 PM.

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  • abhijeet080808
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    AFAIK, Bull's RR unit is not a 3 phase design. So can not use that. I guess ZMA uses 3 phase design. And, no need to change battery.

    Else rewind ur coil to single phase and use APE RR unit.

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  • rahul9985
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    @ abhijeet080808, rahuldevnath & sajanjosepht

    somehow forgot about this mod.
    Thanks a lot for spending your time on the friendly valuable discussion.

    Finally this is the conclusion.
    The P220's alternator is a 3-phase one. It is having a big coil (over 200W) . It can easily feed my 2 55W halogens & other electricals.
    If incase the coil DOESNT produce the required power we need to rewind. The RR MAY need replacement incase it fails to feed.
    The same 9Ah battery can be used without the need to go for a 14Ah battery. Only the charging rate has to be increased which can be done by swapping the RR (if required).
    As rahuldevnath mentioned are there any chances of BCU going kaput. Its expensive.
    I need to buy a car relay which supports over 100W power.
    If my RR fails what RR can i use? Bull's RR on the same 9Ah battery? Or the 14Ah battery is a must for Bull's RR?

    Since i wont be using this setup much, is experimenting fine on test basis? I know about the risks involved.

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  • abhichotu.abhi
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    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    Strange, I haven't ever come across any 35W Ballasts! I didn't ever knew that a 25W HID existed. Stay clear out of it, look for 35W Ballasts and bulbs.

    @rahul
    have u figured out 8K RPM problem on which u have also started thread is it resolved??

    i know it is offtopic but i m curious

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
    yesterday i saw some chinese HID(i think). It was costing 2.2k but 1 strange thing i saw was, bulb said 35W, but ballast said 25W. Is it okay or should i search for something better?
    Strange, I haven't ever come across any 35W Ballasts! I didn't ever knew that a 25W HID existed. Stay clear out of it, look for 35W Ballasts and bulbs.

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  • antz.bin
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    yesterday i saw some chinese HID(i think). It was costing 2.2k but 1 strange thing i saw was, bulb said 35W, but ballast said 25W. Is it okay or should i search for something better?

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
    yes...... it is working in single beam mode
    i am also planning to replace this hid with raylux 4500k
    hm.. why don't you try making the modification yourself?

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  • mayank04
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    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    Have you installed the HID's and working in single beam mode? My No. is +919844-one-six-71-two-nine
    yes...... it is working in single beam mode
    i am also planning to replace this hid with raylux 4500k

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
    on 1 st nov i have gone to nagpur purchased a hid kit(hawk 8000k) for rs 5000
    i will replace it with 6000k on 7th
    with a whole day fight from 11am to 10pm results negative,fitting person failed to do twin bim,
    rahulji pls PM me your mobile no.............plsssss
    Have you installed the HID's and working in single beam mode? My No. is +919844-one-six-71-two-nine

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  • mayank04
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    Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
    Last week of Jan (2010), till then you can try building the setup, it's not at all complex. You can buy the stuff from Sitabuldi, rear road.
    on 1 st nov i have gone to nagpur purchased a hid kit(hawk 8000k) for rs 5000
    i will replace it with 6000k on 7th
    with a whole day fight from 11am to 10pm results negative,fitting person failed to do twin bim,
    rahulji pls PM me your mobile no.............plsssss
    Last edited by mayank04; 11-03-2009, 03:46 PM.

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
    rahulji when u are coming to nagpur
    Last week of Jan (2010), till then you can try building the setup, it's not at all complex. You can buy the stuff from Sitabuldi, rear road.

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  • mayank04
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    rahulji when u are coming to nagpur

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
    ^^ If we look at 200W it seems to be a nice number! But, the thing is we do not know how much the Fuel Injection system consumes. Everything depends on that. In any case, Bajaj will hardly provide a 200W electrical system if the major load is only the 55W h/l + other lights. I guess total load is too somewhat like 150W only!

    Thinking about this, the newer P220 w/o FI can easily go for 130/100W h/l I guess!

    Edit - what gauge wire did u use for rewinding your coil?
    Yes, am quite sure about that it will support a 100W, as it uses an H7 single beam. But at the risk of melting the reflectors with a 100W or higher. Am not sure that the highbeam sealed beam is available seperate. In that case its better to go in for O'NB its like a plasma with this power.

    No idea yar, its too late to recollect the guage no., 2 years back

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  • rahuldevnath
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    Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
    i have asked for 35w hid...6000k
    he cant understand the circuit......16days till now

    two days before he says me one person named sunny also brings the copy of same circuit.............xbhp rocks

    can u post youtube video for circuit with your p220 mod.......this will help to understand lot of us.
    I do'nt think it's any use in taking the circuit to the dealer. Buy a Car HID kit and install it, when I come to Nagpur, I will help you do make the mods.

    But in any case, it's better to buy the HID and ask your friend who can help you, or even a normal electrician.

    Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
    ^^ If we look at 200W it seems to be a nice number! But, the thing is we do not know how much the Fuel Injection system consumes. Everything depends on that. In any case, Bajaj will hardly provide a 200W electrical system if the major load is only the 55W h/l + other lights. I guess total load is too somewhat like 150W only!

    Thinking about this, the newer P220 w/o FI can easily go for 130/100W h/l I guess!

    Edit - what gauge wire did u use for rewinding your coil?
    Even I do'nt think so that 220 gets 200W. And if I'm not wrong, 220's coil generate power for Battery charging and Electricals seperately. After 2K RPM the Coil generates enough to support the 55W Bulb +15W Pilot lamps.

    Even FI hardly consumes any power, not more than 15W.

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