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  • Puneet1
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    ranjith have you bought that projector assembly for 4500 ? does fz have space to mount that huge ballast shown and a angel eye starter .

    imo try renting a heat gun as it works better while using oven you have no idea how much the sealant has softened and also the front glass can get damaged if its heated too much .

    @ veeral - i think you should first convert bike to full dc using ape rr method . then proceed further .

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
    What i meant is,i want to remove the glass from the FZ reflector so that i can mount the projector

    and about the shroud....hmm...k....
    tnx for the info!
    Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
    What i meant is,i want to remove the glass from the FZ reflector so that i can mount the projector

    and about the shroud....hmm...k....
    tnx for the info!
    Do u've a 30Ltr micro wave with convection? Put the dome inside on a thin ply wood sheet, select convection mode like we used to bake the cake, choose the temp 200C and bake it for 3 mins, take out with a cloth glove, check for the sealant is soft if it soft then start prying it from one side, if not heat it for another few minutes.

    Dismantle every metal parts from the assy before putting into the oven else it may damage the oven and black spots too.

    What about a heat gun? Go to Ronni Electronics and ask for it, its there for 500-600/ range or order it from Ebay.

    Know someone in bakery field? Ask him to keep this dome over a wooden sheet in the oven for 3-4 mins
    and do the rest.

    Dont forget to keep the dome on a ply or a wooden sheet else u can see another shape of the dome once u take it out.

    Once u finished do not seal it back, try a beam projection on the road and level it if its required mostly it needs. Its a time consuming job so be patient while fiddling with this.

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  • Veeral
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    Originally posted by sajjt View Post
    Err.. I got it, P200. got mixed with others...

    P220 lens is a single beam ie; low beam, plonk an ONB H7. For High beam u need to get the high beam reflector or any other good aux lamp as high beam.

    Reason I suggested P220 lens bcz u were smitten by the ONB bug

    Rewinding is always good even if u r going for DC conversion or not as the higher watt bulb needs more current to drive at its optimum performance. If u r going for DC setup, coil rewind is a must as the b2b city drive can end up with dead battery, being with a 55W halogen it will make it worse.

    Avy coil will do but I dont like its perfomance in switching between beams as there will be a lag in lighting up in full brightness. So go for coil rewind.

    Ur OE socket is a H4 so it cant be utilized, first u decide which projector and then go for the suitable bulb and socket.
    LOL m very confuesd... Why the hell u dont live in bombay
    Ok i'll tel u. I need a projector for my pul200 but it should be twin beam.
    now u tell me wat and all thing 'll have to do . pls

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by Veeral View Post
    Ohh now i got it.
    1> buy a 220 projector lense (twin beam ?)
    2> buy a H7 type ONB
    3> rewinding coil is for DC or to increase the watts ? Avenger coil wont do ?
    4> need to change anything in bike ? (bulb holder)

    M very eager and noob in electrical.
    Thanks.
    Err.. I got it, P200. got mixed with others...

    P220 lens is a single beam ie; low beam, plonk an ONB H7. For High beam u need to get the high beam reflector or any other good aux lamp as high beam.

    Reason I suggested P220 lens bcz u were smitten by the ONB bug

    Rewinding is always good even if u r going for DC conversion or not as the higher watt bulb needs more current to drive at its optimum performance. If u r going for DC setup, coil rewind is a must as the b2b city drive can end up with dead battery, being with a 55W halogen it will make it worse.

    Avy coil will do but I dont like its perfomance in switching between beams as there will be a lag in lighting up in full brightness. So go for coil rewind.

    Ur OE socket is a H4 so it cant be utilized, first u decide which projector and then go for the suitable bulb and socket.

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  • RanjithMN
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    What i meant is,i want to remove the glass from the FZ reflector so that i can mount the projector

    and about the shroud....hmm...k....
    tnx for the info!

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  • Veeral
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    Originally posted by sajjt View Post
    Sorry to ask, whats ur ride? Xtreme or P200?
    Pul 200, sir

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by Veeral View Post
    Ohh now i got it.
    1> buy a 220 projector lense (twin beam ?)
    2> buy a H7 type ONB
    3> rewinding coil is for DC or to increase the watts ? Avenger coil wont do ?
    4> need to change anything in bike ? (bulb holder)

    M very eager and noob in electrical.
    Thanks.
    Sorry to ask, whats ur ride? Xtreme or P200?

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
    @sajjt
    the high beam really dint have much of a pattern ...it does look like the FXR type!
    FXR series solenoid will be outside of the reflector dude.

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
    Thanks once again Sajjt!
    Yes that one is from AQ itself...
    i just opened it up today and im posting the pics....now can i just close those 2 gaps with something for time being till im able to get a proper shroud?

    i thought abt mounting the whole thing as it is but there are some complications hence going to try and mount the projectors into the FZ dome...i have couple of spare ones to test
    and how is the price of 4.5k for the whole dome???overpriced?
    btw do you know any place in EKM where i can get the reflectors separated?


    Thank you
    These are heat vents and that should not be closed. This is one of the use of shrouds. Else, light will be scattering from all sides of the OE reflector and make a mess. Try to keep the original shroud with FZ reflector so that it will give more neat look.

    Cant say anything on pricing as the performance matters. But its not overpriced anyway as its a full package. Factory price will be around $25 without HID kit. I think its using a H3 bulb base right?

    Whats that mean? U want to pull out the glass from the assy? or u need an extra reflector of FZ?
    Last edited by sajjt; 10-14-2010, 04:53 PM.

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  • Veeral
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    Originally posted by sajjt View Post
    U cant use an H4 in a projector thats fixed, but can u consider an H7 ONB? So that look for a P220 lens that will be suitable for an H7.

    Either go for a bi xen projector or twin pod setup like Nano is using. I would say, [B]Its the best lighting solution
    .
    Ohh now i got it.
    1> buy a 220 projector lense (twin beam ?)
    2> buy a H7 type ONB
    3> rewinding coil is for DC or to increase the watts ? Avenger coil wont do ?
    4> need to change anything in bike ? (bulb holder)

    M very eager and noob in electrical.
    Thanks.

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  • RanjithMN
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    @sajjt
    the high beam really dint have much of a pattern ...it does look like the FXR type!

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  • sajjt
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    For those who on the update on projectors

    This is the shield which makes the dual beams



    This is what I've dismantled


    See the size of the shield and have a look on the shield fixing assy, it sitting exactly half of the reflector.





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  • RanjithMN
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    Thanks once again Sajjt!
    Yes that one is from AQ itself...
    i just opened it up today and im posting the pics....now can i just close those 2 gaps with something for time being till im able to get a proper shroud?

    i thought abt mounting the whole thing as it is but there are some complications hence going to try and mount the projectors into the FZ dome...i have couple of spare ones to test
    and how is the price of 4.5k for the whole dome???overpriced?
    btw do you know any place in EKM where i can get the reflectors separated?


    Thank you
    Last edited by RanjithMN; 10-14-2010, 04:41 PM.

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  • NANOtechnology
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    thanks a lot sajjt for the compliment.

    besides, my high beam problem is sorted out, all it needed was a seperate relay which was absent in the wiring.
    all here please understand USE RELAYS if going for HID's.

    believe it or not, for high beam, projectors aren't good.
    nothing can beat reflector's high beam intensity.

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  • sajjt
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    Originally posted by Veeral View Post
    Thanks for the reply.
    So i cant use OSRAM NB in projector. Actually i love the looks of the single projector.

    Wat will i have to do if i need to install projector and also use two beams.
    U cant use an H4 in a projector thats fixed, but can u consider an H7 ONB? So that look for a P220 lens that will be suitable for an H7.

    Either go for a bi xen projector or twin pod setup like Nano is using. I would say, Its the best lighting solution

    Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
    for dual beam i think you can go for a bi-xenon projector...
    Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
    bi-xenon projector's are projectors that have TWIN beam...that is high and low.
    Well said guys. Keep going.

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