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  • Originally posted by Veeral View Post
    Srry i must asking silliy Q.s
    By bi-xenon projector. u mean only projector ? or with a xenon bulb ?
    bi-xenon projector's are projectors that have TWIN beam...that is high and low.
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    • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
      bi-xenon projector's are projectors that have TWIN beam...that is high and low.
      Ok cool. so i can use it with OSRAM NB.

      Any idea bout cost ? any specific brand ?
      Thanks alot for reply
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      • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
        @sajjt
        this the stuff im talking about...i will have to take the projector out and fix it to my FZ's dome....do you think the projector will have any holes for screw to mount it on my dome?

        and about the high beam..As far as remember the high beam dint have any cutoff..it was spread like normal halo...is tht the way its supposed to be?
        Ranjith, pls read my first post on shrouds, I've edited while u replied.

        Is is from Auto Queen? Lijo once told me about this. Dont know the quality of it, but looks neat as a whole. But how will u fix it on ur FZ? There should be screws for for fixing, but I would say try to fix the assy as it is and try rather spoiling the unit by trial & error.

        Dude, in projectors there will be shield for both beams, for low beam shield will be closed and there by half of the opening will be restricted and high beam, the shield will be lifted up but still there will be a opening of 60-70% opening only as the solenoid which pulls the shield sits within the reflector cavity and I think thats the limitation. Ofcourse we can do some alterations to make it bit more open but I've tried it as mine is meant for my car so keeping it at pristine condition.

        If its like FXR type, there will be more opening for the high beam as the solenoid is outside of the reflector and there's no limitations in opening to its max but there will also be a limit as per the DOT to make it legal. But this particular model wont come into this range as the FXR series are priced higher say around $300

        This is a low beam wall projection



        And this is high beam projection



        Just compare the opening diff.
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        • Originally posted by Veeral View Post
          Thanks for the reply.
          So i cant use OSRAM NB in projector. Actually i love the looks of the single projector.

          Wat will i have to do if i need to install projector and also use two beams.
          U cant use an H4 in a projector thats fixed, but can u consider an H7 ONB? So that look for a P220 lens that will be suitable for an H7.

          Either go for a bi xen projector or twin pod setup like Nano is using. I would say, Its the best lighting solution

          Originally posted by kinshuk.arya View Post
          for dual beam i think you can go for a bi-xenon projector...
          Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
          bi-xenon projector's are projectors that have TWIN beam...that is high and low.
          Well said guys. Keep going.
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          • thanks a lot sajjt for the compliment.

            besides, my high beam problem is sorted out, all it needed was a seperate relay which was absent in the wiring.
            all here please understand USE RELAYS if going for HID's.

            believe it or not, for high beam, projectors aren't good.
            nothing can beat reflector's high beam intensity.
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            Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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            • Thanks once again Sajjt!
              Yes that one is from AQ itself...
              i just opened it up today and im posting the pics....now can i just close those 2 gaps with something for time being till im able to get a proper shroud?

              i thought abt mounting the whole thing as it is but there are some complications hence going to try and mount the projectors into the FZ dome...i have couple of spare ones to test
              and how is the price of 4.5k for the whole dome???overpriced?
              btw do you know any place in EKM where i can get the reflectors separated?


              Thank you
              Last edited by RanjithMN; 10-14-2010, 04:41 PM.
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              • For those who on the update on projectors

                This is the shield which makes the dual beams



                This is what I've dismantled


                See the size of the shield and have a look on the shield fixing assy, it sitting exactly half of the reflector.





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                • @sajjt
                  the high beam really dint have much of a pattern ...it does look like the FXR type!
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                  • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                    U cant use an H4 in a projector thats fixed, but can u consider an H7 ONB? So that look for a P220 lens that will be suitable for an H7.

                    Either go for a bi xen projector or twin pod setup like Nano is using. I would say, [B]Its the best lighting solution
                    .
                    Ohh now i got it.
                    1> buy a 220 projector lense (twin beam ?)
                    2> buy a H7 type ONB
                    3> rewinding coil is for DC or to increase the watts ? Avenger coil wont do ?
                    4> need to change anything in bike ? (bulb holder)

                    M very eager and noob in electrical.
                    Thanks.
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                    • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                      Thanks once again Sajjt!
                      Yes that one is from AQ itself...
                      i just opened it up today and im posting the pics....now can i just close those 2 gaps with something for time being till im able to get a proper shroud?

                      i thought abt mounting the whole thing as it is but there are some complications hence going to try and mount the projectors into the FZ dome...i have couple of spare ones to test
                      and how is the price of 4.5k for the whole dome???overpriced?
                      btw do you know any place in EKM where i can get the reflectors separated?


                      Thank you
                      These are heat vents and that should not be closed. This is one of the use of shrouds. Else, light will be scattering from all sides of the OE reflector and make a mess. Try to keep the original shroud with FZ reflector so that it will give more neat look.

                      Cant say anything on pricing as the performance matters. But its not overpriced anyway as its a full package. Factory price will be around $25 without HID kit. I think its using a H3 bulb base right?

                      Whats that mean? U want to pull out the glass from the assy? or u need an extra reflector of FZ?
                      Last edited by sajjt; 10-14-2010, 04:53 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by RanjithMN View Post
                        @sajjt
                        the high beam really dint have much of a pattern ...it does look like the FXR type!
                        FXR series solenoid will be outside of the reflector dude.
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                        • Originally posted by Veeral View Post
                          Ohh now i got it.
                          1> buy a 220 projector lense (twin beam ?)
                          2> buy a H7 type ONB
                          3> rewinding coil is for DC or to increase the watts ? Avenger coil wont do ?
                          4> need to change anything in bike ? (bulb holder)

                          M very eager and noob in electrical.
                          Thanks.
                          Sorry to ask, whats ur ride? Xtreme or P200?
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                          • Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                            Sorry to ask, whats ur ride? Xtreme or P200?
                            Pul 200, sir
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                            • What i meant is,i want to remove the glass from the FZ reflector so that i can mount the projector

                              and about the shroud....hmm...k....
                              tnx for the info!
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                              • Originally posted by Veeral View Post
                                Ohh now i got it.
                                1> buy a 220 projector lense (twin beam ?)
                                2> buy a H7 type ONB
                                3> rewinding coil is for DC or to increase the watts ? Avenger coil wont do ?
                                4> need to change anything in bike ? (bulb holder)

                                M very eager and noob in electrical.
                                Thanks.
                                Err.. I got it, P200. got mixed with others...

                                P220 lens is a single beam ie; low beam, plonk an ONB H7. For High beam u need to get the high beam reflector or any other good aux lamp as high beam.

                                Reason I suggested P220 lens bcz u were smitten by the ONB bug

                                Rewinding is always good even if u r going for DC conversion or not as the higher watt bulb needs more current to drive at its optimum performance. If u r going for DC setup, coil rewind is a must as the b2b city drive can end up with dead battery, being with a 55W halogen it will make it worse.

                                Avy coil will do but I dont like its perfomance in switching between beams as there will be a lag in lighting up in full brightness. So go for coil rewind.

                                Ur OE socket is a H4 so it cant be utilized, first u decide which projector and then go for the suitable bulb and socket.
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