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  • #2176
    May be this will sound irritating, but I need to post.

    How exactly do we do the run-in..?

    Nearly 250 on the odo now, I am riding like 60+/-5 kmph all the time and rarely a 70. (once or twice every 10 km) This is since 120 on the odo. Earlier it was around 45+/-5 kmph.

    Do I need to slow down..?
    MOTORCYCLING IS AS MUCH ART AS IT IS SCIENCE

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    • #2177
      @sooraj, it's really irritating to see your question how are you using the bike w/o reading the owners manual ?
      Upto 1000 kms never cross 60kph & 5 K rpm, if you want more mileage you need to be more soft, like the same run-in procedure upto 1500kms or even 2000kms. You can follow this at least from now on...

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      • #2178
        Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
        @sooraj, it's really irritating to see your question how are you using the bike w/o reading the owners manual ?
        Upto 1000 kms never cross 60kph & 5 K rpm, if you want more mileage you need to be more soft, like the same run-in procedure upto 1500kms or even 2000kms. You can follow this at least from now on...
        DAMN..!

        I SHOULD'VE GONE BY THE BOOK. I DID READ THE MANUAL, BUT THOUGHT ITS JUST GAS AND STRICT FOLLOWING ISN'T NECESSARY. MOREOVER, AS THERE IS ANOTHER WAY OF TREATING A NEW ENGINE (THE MOTOMAN BREAK-IN) I THOUGHT SOMETHING THATS IN BETWEEN THE TWO WOULD DO.

        SO, DID I ALREADY MESS UP THE MILEAGE PART..?
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        • #2179
          Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
          DAMN..!

          I SHOULD'VE GONE BY THE BOOK. I DID READ THE MANUAL, BUT THOUGHT ITS JUST GAS AND STRICT FOLLOWING ISN'T NECESSARY. MOREOVER, AS THERE IS ANOTHER WAY OF TREATING A NEW ENGINE (THE MOTOMAN BREAK-IN) I THOUGHT SOMETHING THATS IN BETWEEN THE TWO WOULD DO.

          SO, DID I ALREADY MESS UP THE MILEAGE PART..?
          If you had warmed up the engine before high speed runs the engine will be ok, but if you had done it when the engine was sold....even a well set engine will be stressed,and get into problems.
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • #2180
            Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
            DAMN..!

            I SHOULD'VE GONE BY THE BOOK. I DID READ THE MANUAL, BUT THOUGHT ITS JUST GAS AND STRICT FOLLOWING ISN'T NECESSARY. MOREOVER, AS THERE IS ANOTHER WAY OF TREATING A NEW ENGINE (THE MOTOMAN BREAK-IN) I THOUGHT SOMETHING THATS IN BETWEEN THE TWO WOULD DO.

            SO, DID I ALREADY MESS UP THE MILEAGE PART..?
            Don't worry, at least from now on keep tab on speedo & RPM. Forget motoman method, it's not good for FE sensitive Japanese bikes.

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            • #2181
              Originally posted by psr View Post
              if you had warmed up the engine before high speed runs the engine will be ok, but if you had done it when the engine was sold....even a well set engine will be stressed,and get into problems.
              great..!

              I always idle the engine for atleast 3 minutes before moving off. Again, the high speed runs come after a kilometer ride, thanx to road conditions.
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              • #2182
                Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                don't worry, at least from now on keep tab on speedo & rpm. Forget motoman method, it's not good for fe sensitive japanese bikes.
                okay. Slowing down now.
                Anyway, i was still under rpm limit. 60 kmph comes at 4.7k and 65 at 5.1k.
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                • #2183
                  Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
                  May be this will sound irritating, but I need to post.How exactly do we do the run-in..?
                  Nearly 250 on the odo now, I am riding like 60+/-5 kmph all the time and rarely a 70. (once or twice every 10 km) This is since 120 on the odo. Earlier it was around 45+/-5 kmph.
                  Do I need to slow down..?
                  You are doing it perfectly alrighty ... after warming up for a few kms at 30-40 kmph ( not just idle-ing ) , take her up for a controlled burst , gradual acceleration to 90 , back off in one min , using no brakes other than engine braking . In my experience softly broken bikes become like that .. softies . Positively change your oil at 500km .
                  Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                  Drop both of them and go for the Unicorn .
                  Honda engines work nicely untill HeroHonda gets to fiddle with them with their dirty hands . . So unicorn just rides and works better than achiever/hunk/cbz-x anyday ... i dunno how .. but it does .
                  Originally posted by anush View Post
                  I'm using castrol power 1 10w30(part synthetic) in cbz xtreme. i need to top up the engine oil, is it safe to top up with Valvoline Champ 4T 10W30(synthetic blend). Will there be any harm as the both engine oils get mixed?
                  As far as engine oils go ,the only way u can harm your engine is ride it without any oil , don't sweat , top it up , will work like a champ . The sythetic part of castrol power1 is hydrocracked petroleum oils only , not synthetic esters .. so it's wholly dino oil really . Or as psr says , change the whole stuff for 20w40 for this summer .. bike will love it .
                  Originally posted by Royzone View Post
                  Would have considered your suggestion had the waiting period of unicorn not been 70-90 days and that of dazzler ~45 days ....
                  I am with sarban on this .. do test ride the unicorn too ... good things in life are worth waiting for . If you are in such a hurry , why waste time to take test rides ?
                  Last edited by Pinaki; 05-10-2011, 12:48 AM.

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                  • #2184
                    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                    You are doing it perfectly alrighty ... after warming up for a few kms at 30-40 kmph ( not just idle-ing ) , take her up for a controlled burst , gradual acceleration to 90 , back off in one min , using no brakes other than engine braking . In my experience softly broken bikes become like that .. softies . Positively change your oil at 500km .
                    I am more than happy..
                    And yes, thats what i want my ride to be.. Softie..

                    Oil change will happen within 10 days, probably @ 320 kms.
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                    • #2185
                      i'm doing exactly what sooraj_vs is doing but never crosed RPM 5 until yesterday. After doing my 80kmph for the 1st time yesterday this morning i found my bike refused to start, i had to use choke for the 1st time 2day, and it's scorching summer here. Man it felt bad . what could be the problem, is it idling? 'cause i found idling bellow 1k today, even after warming up it didn't cross 1.3k. Any thing bad?

                      Regards.
                      Lean = Effort towards what you want, Rich = Effort towards what you need.

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                      • #2186
                        Originally posted by Cupid View Post
                        i'm doing exactly what sooraj_vs is doing but never crosed RPM 5 until yesterday. After doing my 80kmph for the 1st time yesterday this morning i found my bike refused to start, i had to use choke for the 1st time 2day, and it's scorching summer here. Man it felt bad . what could be the problem, is it idling? 'cause i found idling bellow 1k today, even after warming up it didn't cross 1.3k. Any thing bad?

                        Regards.
                        Something seems to be, but can't be due to having done 80 kmph.
                        Infact, I was all fed up with idling. I messed it up, then got it right. So if anything is wrong with idling, just get it right. I mean, its not that hard.

                        And I strongly suspect the carb is set to lean. Expert opinion needed here.

                        1. Idling is set at 1k exactly when cold (room temp), but once it heats up well, it goes to 2 or 2.1 k. Once I set 1.5 k (cold), then it was 3k when hot. Never coming down.
                        2. Poor throttle response. Kinda jerking while opening the throttle. Engine refuses to revv for a moment, then pulls away.

                        Does this indicate a lean mix..? If yes, is this the way new bikes are tuned..?
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                        • #2187
                          Originally posted by Cupid View Post
                          i'm doing exactly what sooraj_vs is doing but never crosed RPM 5 until yesterday. After doing my 80kmph for the 1st time yesterday this morning i found my bike refused to start, i had to use choke for the 1st time 2day, and it's scorching summer here. Man it felt bad . what could be the problem, is it idling? 'cause i found idling bellow 1k today, even after warming up it didn't cross 1.3k. Any thing bad?

                          Regards.
                          your air fuel ratio and idling setup both have to be corrected and proper tuning to be done..best to approach A.S.S. and insist on getting it done.How is the engine oil and when was it changed
                          Last edited by psr; 05-10-2011, 01:57 PM.
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • #2188
                            Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
                            1. Idling is set at 1k exactly when cold (room temp), but once it heats up well, it goes to 2 or 2.1 k. Once I set 1.5 k (cold), then it was 3k when hot. Never coming down.
                            2. Poor throttle response. Kinda jerking while opening the throttle. Engine refuses to revv for a moment, then pulls away.

                            Does this indicate a lean mix..? If yes, is this the way new bikes are tuned..?
                            Yes it does indicate a lean mix....till at least 2,000 Kms unless the mix is set rich there will be big difference between cold and hot idling...So make it rich, which will also help in the bike running a little cooler.
                            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                            • #2189
                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              Yes it does indicate a lean mix....till at least 2,000 Kms unless the mix is set rich there will be big difference between cold and hot idling...So make it rich, which will also help in the bike running a little cooler.
                              So I guessed it right. And yes, the engine does heat up a little too much.
                              Since am not skilled enough to correct the delicate tuning setup, let the SVC guys do it during first service, which is 10 days away.
                              MOTORCYCLING IS AS MUCH ART AS IT IS SCIENCE

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                              • #2190
                                Originally posted by psr
                                your air fuel ratio and idling setup both have to be corrected and proper tuning to be done..best to approach A.S.S. and insist on getting it done.How is the engine oil and when was it changed
                                Thanks a lot. I changed the oil when it was 400 kms on the odo, now 500. I checked the level, it's ok.

                                Originally posted by sooraj_vs
                                1. Idling is set at 1k exactly when cold (room temp), but once it heats up well, it goes to 2 or 2.1 k. Once I set 1.5 k (cold), then it was 3k when hot. Never coming down.
                                I myself corrected the rpm to 1.4 when it was 40kms on the odo. Till yesterday it was 1.4k when cold and 1.55 when hot.

                                2. Poor throttle response. Kinda jerking while opening the throttle. Engine refuses to revv for a moment, then pulls away.
                                i'm experiencing the same from yesterday. It was there before only when i first start the bike in the morning. Never happened the rest of the day. But now if give it an hour break it happens.
                                Lean = Effort towards what you want, Rich = Effort towards what you need.

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