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  • #3301
    Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
    yes dat is one of the factors responsible.Same happened to me but make sure to initially accelerate (slightly so that it doesnt stalls) and keep engine idle for 2-3 minutes after u start the bike.and when engine is hot,also check the IDLE RPM, it myt b showing less than that u have tuned it to.mine was automatically changed to ~1200 from ~1500 after oil change from 10W30 to 20W40.
    Aside this u wud definitely feel the difference in engine sound now, trust me on this.

    Regards
    Saurabh negi

    I cant even keep the engine in idle it just stops after 5-6 secs and can u tell me what is the default idle rpm or what suits best if the engine oil is 20w40 i mean how much it should be intially and how it should be in cold/heat conditions

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    • #3302
      Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
      yes dat is one of the factors responsible.Same happened to me but make sure to initially accelerate (slightly so that it doesnt stalls) and keep engine idle for 2-3 minutes after u start the bike.and when engine is hot,also check the IDLE RPM, it myt b showing less than that u have tuned it to.mine was automatically changed to ~1200 from ~1500 after oil change from 10W30 to 20W40.
      Aside this u wud definitely feel the difference in engine sound now, trust me on this.

      Regards
      Saurabh negi
      And yea it shows less than what we tuned to and can u tell me u r idle rpm settings bro?

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      • #3303
        Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
        I cant even keep the engine in idle it just stops after 5-6 secs and can u tell me what is the default idle rpm or what suits best if the engine oil is 20w40 i mean how much it should be intially and how it should be in cold/heat conditions
        20W40 needs more time to warm up and flow when compared to 10W30,Just set the idle rpm to 1500 when it is hot,and warm up bike for 2-3 minutes.Do not accelerate very hard,be gentle with throttle. You could have gone for the 10@30 Gulf if it was raining there.

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        • #3304
          Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
          20W40 needs more time to warm up and flow when compared to 10W30,Just set the idle rpm to 1500 when it is hot,and warm up bike for 2-3 minutes.Do not accelerate very hard,be gentle with throttle. You could have gone for the 10@30 Gulf if it was raining there.

          So should i keep the idle rpm at 1500 all the time? i tried increasing it but the engine went on harder side during acceleration so lowered back to 1....please help me in detail on how to solve this problem so that then bike wont stop and starts in just 1 or 2 selfs

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          • #3305
            Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
            So should i keep the idle rpm at 1500 all the time
            Set it to 1500rpm at hot.

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            • #3306
              Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
              So should i keep the idle rpm at 1500 all the time? i tried increasing it but the engine went on harder side during acceleration so lowered back to 1....please help me in detail on how to solve this problem so that then bike wont stop and starts in just 1 or 2 selfs
              actualy eninge will b faacing higher viscousity oil in between its parts so the IDLE RPM would decrease 4 sure from wat u were previously tuned to.. Just start the bike.Slowly increase the throttle to 2K or so.then leave it so dat it comes back to ~1.5K again repeat 2-3 times and after that keep it idle for 1-2 minuted.then slowly increase the speed as u move on.......

              and afterfew minutes of ride set IDLE RPM to 1500 or so...dats it..
              I hope u get it right
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              • #3307
                Originally posted by Kalli12 View Post
                Ok heres a new problem i changed the engine oil around 4 days go and since the next day when ever i start the bike wouldnt start even if it starts it will run for 5 seconds and then suddenly stop or when i change to first gear it stops i need to accelerate it so that it doesnt stop.... and the oil changed to is gulf 4T 20w40 and its heavy rains here(Maybe this got something to do with it) or the is it the idle rpm problem?
                I agree with Aneesh & Saurabh , on my new splendor+ I had to take the bike to the HH service after I changed to 20w40 oil very soon .. there was that much difference in tuning just by change of the oil grade .. there they retuned both the Idle & AFR ratios with a hand-held rpm meter and it's been perfect ever since . Funny thing is that I never had to do this when I changed to 20w40 on my cbz-x which was much older @ higher mileage (kms) . I am not sure what mechanism is at work here .. but since retuning the carb worked for me & it is free at HH service center .. I'd say you try it too , it'll work .
                Last edited by Pinaki; 08-25-2011, 01:29 AM.

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                • #3308
                  Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
                  actualy eninge will b faacing higher viscousity oil in between its parts so the IDLE RPM would decrease 4 sure from wat u were previously tuned to.. Just start the bike.Slowly increase the throttle to 2K or so.then leave it so dat it comes back to ~1.5K again repeat 2-3 times and after that keep it idle for 1-2 minuted.then slowly increase the speed as u move on.......

                  and afterfew minutes of ride set IDLE RPM to 1500 or so...dats it..
                  I hope u get it right
                  Went to HH showroom he didnt do anything, tried your procedure need to see how it turns out didnt idle the engine though but went on to ride few kms and then changed the idle rpm to 1500 even then it shows 1200 anyways need to check out tomorrow to see how it starts during the first self thanks for the suggestion bro! Will post tomorrow on how its working!

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                  • #3309
                    hi,
                    im a new member & have a few questions. my ride is 2011 HH CBZ Xtreme.

                    1. is there any way to get msd plug cable & ignition coil in kerala? even online is gud.
                    2. i heard that NGK Iridium IX plug is now available for CBZ X, Hunk, etc. can any1 confirm it?
                    3. i've done 1.8k kms on my CBZ X. i wish to change the engine oil brand at 2nd service. i checked for motul in many places near my location but its not available. which other oils are gud for my bike? if any1 knew where to get them in kerala, it wud be of great help.
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                    • #3310
                      Originally posted by manojm1991 View Post
                      hi,
                      im a new member & have a few questions. my ride is 2011 HH CBZ Xtreme.

                      1. is there any way to get msd plug cable & ignition coil in kerala? even online is gud.
                      2. i heard that NGK Iridium IX plug is now available for CBZ X, Hunk, etc. can any1 confirm it?
                      These mods wont increase your bike performance,may be your mileage may increase by 2 or 3kms,IMO,Stay away from this mod.

                      3. i've done 1.8k kms on my CBZ X. i wish to change the engine oil brand at 2nd service. i checked for motul in many places near my location but its not available. which other oils are gud for my bike? if any1 knew where to get them in kerala, it wud be of great help.
                      Its better to use Mineral oil during runin period,Your bike had already done 1.8K for best results,I would say stick to mineral oils like gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40 and you can try synthetic or semi synthetic only after doing 6000+ kms.

                      NGK for CBZ Xtreme

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                      • #3311
                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        These mods wont increase your bike performance,may be your mileage may increase by 2 or 3kms,IMO,Stay away from this mod.
                        sry, i forgot to mention earlier. actually i intend to increase the mileage only. so what other option is there to increase the mileage.

                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        Its better to use Mineral oil during runin period,Your bike had already done 1.8K for best results,I would say stick to mineral oils like gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40 and you can try synthetic or semi synthetic only after doing 6000+ kms.
                        i too perfer mineral oil. i was looking for motul 3000 4t plus 10w30. only doubt is in the grade. the manual says 10w30. which is better & available in kerala?

                        Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        NGK for CBZ Xtreme
                        i too saw that in ngk site, but i saw a poster of ngk in a spareparts shop which said iridium plugs are available for cbz x, hunk, etc. when i asked the guy over there, he said that the poster came only a day before & he dint know anything about its availability. i'll let you know the part numbr on the poster.
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                        • #3312
                          Originally posted by manojm1991 View Post
                          sry, i forgot to mention earlier. actually i intend to increase the mileage only. so what other option is there to increase the mileage.
                          What is your current mileage and riding style?

                          i too perfer mineral oil. i was looking for motul 3000 4t plus 10w30. only doubt is in the grade. the manual says 10w30. which is better & available in kerala?
                          Motul is hard to get here,Search for Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40.225rs/L,I have been using it in my karizma last 1800kms,less vibrations,smooth and cool engine.

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                          • #3313
                            Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                            What is your current mileage and riding style?
                            now i get 50-55kmpl in city, 65-70kmpl on highway.
                            drives in between 40-55kmph. doesnt go above 65kmph

                            Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                            Motul is hard to get here,Search for Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40.225rs/L,I have been using it in my karizma last 1800kms,less vibrations,smooth and cool engine.
                            k. the manual says 10w30. will there be any problem if i use 20w40? do you know which oil grade HH SVC is using?
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                            • #3314
                              Originally posted by manojm1991 View Post
                              now i get 50-55kmpl in city, 65-70kmpl on highway.
                              drives in between 40-55kmph. doesnt go above 65kmph
                              Hahahaha,You getting nearly 70's in highways still need more mileage? My karizma is giving me 31 in city and 41 in highway and i am 100% happy with it.
                              Happy to know that you are getting good mileage figures.

                              k. the manual says 10w30. will there be any problem if i use 20w40? do you know which oil grade HH SVC is using?
                              You can use any JASO MA2 speced oil and try to avoid castrol oils because fakes are available in market.HM(Hero Moto) SVC guys uses HM OEM 10W30 oil supplied by the company but that oil will turns bad after a 300kms ride and engine will starts overheating and harsh! 20W40 oil will reduce vibrations,smooth engine and will last more than 2500kms.
                              Last edited by Aneesh@4GHz; 08-28-2011, 08:36 PM.

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                              • #3315
                                Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                                Hahahaha,You getting nearly 70's in highways still need more mileage? My karizma is giving me 31 in city and 41 in highway and i am 100% happy with it.
                                Happy to know that you are getting good mileage figures.
                                thanx, im kinda "still expect for more" guy.


                                Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                                You can use any JASO MA2 speced oil and try to avoid castrol oils because fakes are available in market.HM(Hero Moto) SVC guys uses HM OEM 10W30 oil supplied by the company but that oil will turns bad after a 300kms ride and engine will starts overheating and harsh! 20W40 oil will reduce vibrations,smooth engine and will last more than 2500kms.
                                i think you are right. my engine becomes very hot within 10mins. could there be any problem?
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