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  • @ ashwin

    Me too facing the same problem from day one.
    If you find a solution, do share with us.
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    • Today for the first time adjusted my chain slack with the help of thet book i bought from flipkart -messed it up lat night - only today morning after a lot of trying i managed to do it good i think - hope it doesnt come off on the highway .

      There are 2 ASC in chennai that solely do only service they dont sell bikes - i found this from hero website - one is opposite to spencer plaza - KOHINOOR MOTORS and they said i can watch them when they open the engine if i decide to come to them - even though i found them though hero website the guy said they have some kinda tie up with hero corp - he is also unaware of the fact that hero gives 6 months or 6K warranty if they install new bore kit .

      In the next few days i will go to them and open the bore - if they say only rings need replacement i will get it done with them or if they say i need new bore kit and all will go for it only if they also give the 6 month warranty that hero dealers give .either way i am spending a lot of money on commute and other stuff to chennai - have spent more than 1K on fuel alone .

      chor ANAND MOTORS in kanchipuram even after complaining to hero they called only once and told me will contact in 15 mins about the spare parts thats it - to this day they havent called back - seems they dont care even if hero corp tell them to .
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      • Writing to hero worked :

        Got the packing this evening :



        Before writing to hero they were not even ready to sell me air filter for my ride - but now they are ready even to give the bore kit over the counter.

        also got the STD size uni. piston rings and the spare part guy in the showroom sayd its from USHA :







        so i asked them to show me the STD size rings for uni. and it clearly has USHA etched inside the piston but forgot to take a snap .

        @sinbun can i get this usha piston installed along with the uni rings ? i plan to install only USHA piston and rings as you have said the quality is best compared to OE hero kit .

        Also drained the 50 grade oil and instead put honda 10w 30 oil i got from the showroom and OMG hwta a diff. - the bike flies like anything - the engine noise has reduced a lot and the pick up has increased too .
        cant believe this engine is on its last legs .

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        • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
          Today for the first time adjusted my chain slack with the help of thet book i bought from flipkart -messed it up lat night - only today morning after a lot of trying i managed to do it good i think - hope it doesnt come off on the highway .
          Of course, it won't!! Commit mistakes, that way we learn to troubleshoot better than just plain advise available over the counter! (Provided the mistake doesn't cost you a bomb! )
          Btw, you got a gasket kit? It has all gaskets for all bikes of HMC??
          At least from the pics it appears so! Barring using the gasket for your xtreme, what are you going to do with the rest of them?

          Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
          Also drained the 50 grade oil and instead put honda 10w 30 oil i got from the showroom and OMG hwta a diff. - the bike flies like anything - the engine noise has reduced a lot and the pick up has increased too .
          cant believe this engine is on its last legs .
          Is it a mineral oil/SS?
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          • Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
            Of course, it won't!! Commit mistakes, that way we learn to troubleshoot better than just plain advise available over the counter! (Provided the mistake doesn't cost you a bomb! )
            Yeah the guy who installed the sprocket set it very tight - whenever i closed the clutch it used to make this growling noise -
            next step after i get the new bore kit installed going to service the wheels myself and planning to open the crankcase as well to clean the oil filter anf the CF filter .



            Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
            Btw, you got a gasket kit? It has all gaskets for all bikes of HMC??
            At least from the pics it appears so! Barring using the gasket for your xtreme, what are you going to do with the rest of them?
            New bore kit thats why- cost Rs 290 .

            Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
            Is it a mineral oil/SS?
            mineral costs Rs 260 .
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            • @bloggin wheels

              dude,
              im facing the same problem of fuel leakage through keyhole of tank...and a strange hissing sound when i pull the keyhole flap/cover when bike is parked for long time....

              what was the solution of the problem?

              plz help...

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              • Originally posted by ashwin.terminator View Post
                Yes, it is a DIY.

                You'll need to remove the 2 screws on the outside sides near the top of the mask. Then 2 more to remove the plastic add-ons on the sides on the inside. Then 2 bolts which will be at an angle when viewed after crouching on the side of the bike in front of the headlamp. You WILL need a T-Rod for this. Remove them all. Then apply some force and pull the part of the headlamp close to where you removed the first 2 screws from. Don't worry, your headlamp will not break. Just release it from a slot and then the other side will come off too. Look at the inside and disconnect the connector to the bulb, now you will also find something like a complicated safety pin holding the bulb right. Release the pin and remove the bulb inside and replace with desired bulb and do the reverse to fix the headlamp back. I'm sorry if I haven't explained it properly, but hope you understand.

                Now 2 questions:

                • The throw of the light is not symmetrical. Meaning, there seems to be light on the left side than the left. Why is that? I don't remember if that it was initially but it more clearly visible now.
                • My bike was dropped by a prick when it was parked. Now imagine you are sitting on your vehicle, to lock your handle, you either move the handle fully left, ie. The right mirror is farther away from you or you move it fully right, ie. The left mirror is farther away. Now, the problem is, when the handle is fully left, I need to move it very slightly away from myself for the handle lock to slot into place. And when the handle is fully right, I need to pull it a little closer to allow the handle lock to slot into place. It's not a big issue, but an issue I'd like to fix. Any inputs?
                Originally posted by itssaurabh.negi View Post
                Yes bro,its a simple DIY. Ashwin has already mentioned the process...


                Same is with me.i guess its default thing.
                Since your bike had a fall, the headlight stay would have mis-aligned and changing it will again make your headlight straight.
                Regarding the lock problem it is because the top plate has slightly displaced from its original position. You can solve it by giving a hard kick to front wheel to opposite direction. Take it to a mechanic, he will do it in a minute. This is a common problem in all bikes and my mechanic almost does it daily in numerous bikes.
                Originally posted by sooraj_vs View Post
                @ sibun & ekm_biker

                U guys are pouring in loads of information into this thread.

                So here is my next noob querry
                As said by sibun, pulling the pass switch along with low beam brings all the 8 poles into action. So why cant we do this..?
                Provide an additional wiring from the battery to the high beam filament through a separate switch. This way, we can use 35W in low RPM city riding and 70W on the highway. Current drawn from the battery will be comolemented by the remaining 8 poles.
                What do you say..?
                Yes you can do it but by making the bike to full DC you can get rid of tension. Besides no use in using both filament as both have different focus and thus is not beneficial as a single beam of 60W.
                Here most Ass***es use cheap chinese HID of 8000k and that too without DC conversion. As far as i know their is no problem with their bikes. But i am greatly irritated as they do not adjust the headlight and just blind other road users.
                Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                Writing to hero worked :

                Got the packing this evening :



                Before writing to hero they were not even ready to sell me air filter for my ride - but now they are ready even to give the bore kit over the counter.

                also got the STD size uni. piston rings and the spare part guy in the showroom sayd its from USHA :







                so i asked them to show me the STD size rings for uni. and it clearly has USHA etched inside the piston but forgot to take a snap .

                @sinbun can i get this usha piston installed along with the uni rings ? i plan to install only USHA piston and rings as you have said the quality is best compared to OE hero kit .

                Also drained the 50 grade oil and instead put honda 10w 30 oil i got from the showroom and OMG hwta a diff. - the bike flies like anything - the engine noise has reduced a lot and the pick up has increased too .
                cant believe this engine is on its last legs .

                Yes writing to hero works. Gone are the days when hero honda was arrogant. After the separation of honda hero has gone aggressive in providing services to customers. Now the area manager and engineer go to each showroom and workshop twice a month and see the complaints and solutions done. Some times they call the customer for any problem.Also i had a talk with one of the engineers and he said that hero has also change the quality of their spares. Now the rings,piston and bore every thing are brought from usha. Previously in my joy it has given usha. Now i have personally seen the new kit to be usha. So if you have bought hero rings then also you would have got usha.
                No need of going for new pistons. If your bore is worn then go for new bore kit as they are made by usha. No need of going for unicorn bore kit. Go for extreme bore kit as the new kit have vast quality difference.
                So in a nut shell after its separation from honda hero has changed a lot and is trying to keep its market position. Also he said me that by the end of this fiscal we are expecting a LC 250 CC from hero.
                And this is for all. I have repeatedly told to use 10W 30 or 10W 40 in extreme/hunk and not 20W 40. Use good quality oil. Even the new hero honda oil is improved by Veedol.Never use 20W 40 as it will decrease mileage, increase noise and will make the bike strained at high rpm.This has been tested by me. Do not use 20W 40.Also the bike will feel like loosing power in 20W 40 oil.
                Originally posted by vickul View Post
                @bloggin wheels

                dude,
                im facing the same problem of fuel leakage through keyhole of tank...and a strange hissing sound when i pull the keyhole flap/cover when bike is parked for long time....

                what was the solution of the problem?

                plz help...
                A slight hissing sound is ok. But if it is leaking fuel get it checked in first service.
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                • ^^ yes the diff. with honda genuine 30 grade oil is noticeable - if not for the oil drinking binge people wont believe my ride has engine trouble .

                  btw how to know if my clutch plate is ok ?

                  @ sinbun only SAL bore kit is available - there is one kit with KSP marking available with some private shop the showroom spare guy directed me to - what is this ksp kit ?
                  Last edited by sarbanoxley; 08-21-2012, 04:43 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                    ^^ yes the diff. with honda genuine 30 grade oil is noticeable - if not for the oil drinking binge people wont believe my ride has engine trouble .

                    btw how to know if my clutch plate is ok ?

                    @ sinbun only SAL bore kit is available - there is one kit with KSP marking available with some private shop the showroom spare guy directed me to - what is this ksp kit ?
                    Last time I topped up with the same Honda 10W30, and I felt the gear shifts to be smooth. But, I thought the difference is not actual but just a feeling of mind

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                    • Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                      Last time I topped up with the same Honda 10W30, and I felt the gear shifts to be smooth. But, I thought the difference is not actual but just a feeling of mind
                      yeah even i was amazed at how smooth the engine revvs with the honda oil- always thought OE oils suck but this oil is wow .
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                      • Originally posted by sarbanoxley View Post
                        yeah even i was amazed at how smooth the engine revvs with the honda oil- always thought OE oils suck but this oil is wow .
                        Stock Honda engine oils have always been good. The previous 20w40 oil from Honda was also a very good of the 20w40 lot. Most of the times I have used Honda's 20w40 oil in my Dazzler and Karizma with best results. I suggested the 20w40 oil for may Karizma/ZMR owners and they were always happy. Unfortunately, that grade is not available now.

                        The current 10w30 oil from Honda is developed keeping in view the fuel efficient and performance. Its as good as the previous 20w40 oil and is 10% more fuel efficient (as per Honda tests).
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                        • Originally posted by vickul View Post
                          @bloggin wheels

                          dude,
                          im facing the same problem of fuel leakage through keyhole of tank...and a strange hissing sound when i pull the keyhole flap/cover when bike is parked for long time....

                          what was the solution of the problem?

                          plz help...
                          I found out that there wasn't a problem. I checked the fuel cap/keyhole of 23 bikes to be exact and found that there is a slight smell of petrol from all of them. My Hunk was no different either. It is a different matter than I smelled the fuel caps of so many bikes over a period of 3 days in my office garage!!
                          Btw the 'hiss' sounds only when you often ride with less fuel in your tank. Less petrol in tank = more space available for fuel vapours (more volume) - gets trapped by the keyhole flap and when you lift it up -> HISSSS!!
                          The smell was the least (absolutely negligible) in a CBR 250R. I checked it everyday for 3 days just to be sure!


                          Originally posted by SatSon View Post
                          Last time I topped up with the same Honda 10W30, and I felt the gear shifts to be smooth. But, I thought the difference is not actual but just a feeling of mind
                          So SatSon, what oil are you using now?

                          Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                          The current 10w30 oil from Honda is developed keeping in view the fuel efficient and performance.
                          How much is the mileage difference between the new HH 10w30 JASO MA and Honda 10w30?
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                          • Originally posted by BloggingWheels View Post
                            I found out that there wasn't a problem. I checked the fuel cap/keyhole of 23 bikes to be exact and found that there is a slight smell of petrol from all of them. My Hunk was no different either. It is a different matter than I smelled the fuel caps of so many bikes over a period of 3 days in my office garage!!
                            Btw the 'hiss' sounds only when you often ride with less fuel in your tank. Less petrol in tank = more space available for fuel vapours (more volume) - gets trapped by the keyhole flap and when you lift it up -> HISSSS!!
                            The smell was the least (absolutely negligible) in a CBR 250R. I checked it everyday for 3 days just to be sure!

                            So SatSon, what oil are you using now?

                            How much is the mileage difference between the new HH 10w30 JASO MA and Honda 10w30?
                            I'm using HONDA genuine 10W30 engine oil. Rs.243/- for 1L. I think Sarabanoxley also using the same now.He also felt the difference,, he was mentioning.
                            I did only a topup only coz of my bike's drinking character, but I noted significance improvement in gear shifts.

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                            • I tuned my carb as per instructions found in xbhp and post by Sibun few pages back. My previous setting was almost 3.5 turns away from fully closed position. I checked for the maximum rpm setting and somewhat found one. Still not sure if its optimum, waiting for bike to go reserve for checking mileage.
                              The idling was swinging wild with previous settingand now its somewhat stable, also there is increase in pulling. Guess its being fed a rich mixture !

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                              • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                                Stock Honda engine oils have always been good. The previous 20w40 oil from Honda was also a very good of the 20w40 lot. Most of the times I have used Honda's 20w40 oil in my Dazzler and Karizma with best results. I suggested the 20w40 oil for may Karizma/ZMR owners and they were always happy. Unfortunately, that grade is not available now.

                                The current 10w30 oil from Honda is developed keeping in view the fuel efficient and performance. Its as good as the previous 20w40 oil and is 10% more fuel efficient (as per Honda tests).
                                Sir i asked for 20W 40 oil only but they said not available and the 30W will be as good as 40w - i didnt believe them but boy was i wrong - i think this is the best 30W oil i put in my bike,period .
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