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  • s1d
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by curve_king View Post
    First of all my regards Sid ji.
    Sorry I'm quoting an old post but couldn't find anything more perfect to explain my problem.
    As you explain in your post my battery's voltage is shooting up to around 16 volts.(on idle itself)
    My bike's battery isn't supporting my button start. Showing 13.7 v but on pressing start, goes down to 2/4 v.
    I'm on a service battery which I procured after requesting the Amaron service guy.

    Also please take into consideration that I won't be able to perform 'the rr unit swap' & simply check.
    Will shift to pm later to explain further
    when you replaced the battery with a temporary one (i assume it is of the same rating as the stock one) did you measure the voltages ? Did it show correct values ?
    If it did, then you could simply replace it with a new one.
    If not, then either the stator coil or the rr unit might be faulty.
    If not, You can go to a svc or a local mech who works on activa's and ask them to help you swap a rr unit.. that would be the simplest way.. it hardly takes 5 min since its plug and play.

    If you don't find the root cause, and simply replace battery , then the new battery might also fail after a few days if the fault is at the stator/rr unit.
    Let's keep the discussion on the forum, so that it may help other's also

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  • curve_king
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    This isn't normal. You need to get the charging system checked to ensure the battery is being charged. One of the two components that could go bad are the stator coil and the regulator+rectifier unit.
    And remember if you let a good battery run flat a few times, it will eventually kill the battery (i.e. not hold charge as designed to).. a failure of one of these parts(stator or rr unit) will cause the battery to go flat. So you need to find the root cause rather than simply swapping batteries. And I hope the battery you are using is of the correct rating.. if it's an old model (i.e. 102cc first gen) then the battery should be a 12V 5Ah .. the latter models started coming with a lower capacity battery.

    Now how does one check the charging system:
    1. A Good battery should read at-least 12.7 V approx (i.e. just the battery without any connections)
    2. Start the scoot and at idle measure the voltage. It should go up to around 13 V
    3. Next hold the throttle half way and measure voltage, The voltage should increase by around 1~1.5V (i.e. should now be 14-14.5V)

    If you don't see the voltages increasing then it could be a faulty rr unit or stator coil. also note that too much increase in voltages(say it shoots up to 16V) also indicates a fault. An easier way to rule out a faulty component is by swapping it with a known good one where ever possible.

    I've had the RR unit go bad on my 2007 Dio (after 8.5 yrs) and I confirmed it by swapping it from another Activa at my local mechanic. The RR unit will cost around Rs.550 and is easy to replace, the stator coil might require more labor.
    First of all my regards Sid ji.
    Sorry I'm quoting an old post but couldn't find anything more perfect to explain my problem.
    As you explain in your post my battery's voltage is shooting up to around 16 volts.(on idle itself)
    My bike's battery isn't supporting my button start. Showing 13.7 v but on pressing start, goes down to 2/4 v.
    I'm on a service battery which I procured after requesting the Amaron service guy.

    Also please take into consideration that I won't be able to perform 'the rr unit swap' & simply check.
    Will shift to pm later to explain further

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  • s1d
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by Jujube View Post
    I have a few questions I wanted to ask, if anyone has any views on them please feel free to answer.
    Firstly, the engine, an additional foot rest and side stand are all on the left side, does that make the scooter left side heavy and affect balance of the scooter? If so is there any way to balance the scooter properly, like adding a right side foot rest(seeing they contain metal parts)?
    Secondly, about mods, can I add a windshield? There isn't exactly any place to attach it... What about extra led lights on the front? Does adding the 'inner box' or 'glove box' on the scooter hurt your knees?
    Thirdly, just out of curiosity, is there any performance mods?
    edit:Its a Honda Activa 4g BTW.
    Thanks in advance
    1. The scooter is well balanced. it does not affect anything ! Who gave you this idea of balancing ?
    2. not done such a mod w.r.t windshield.. you could maybe fabricate a couple of clamps and attach them to the rear view mirror stems and then mount a visor.
    LED lights also will require some custom made clamps.
    Comfort when using an inner box depends on your physique. Tall people (5'7"+) might face issues.
    3. Performance mods, yes.. but parts not available easily in India. Some of the mods you can do without touching the block/piston are changing the clutch springs, variator rollers to make the scoot a little more peppy.

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  • Jujube
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Hello again,
    I have a few questions I wanted to ask, if anyone has any views on them please feel free to answer.
    Firstly, the engine, an additional foot rest and side stand are all on the left side, does that make the scooter left side heavy and affect balance of the scooter? If so is there any way to balance the scooter properly, like adding a right side foot rest(seeing they contain metal parts)?
    Secondly, about mods, can I add a windshield? There isn't exactly any place to attach it... What about extra led lights on the front? Does adding the 'inner box' or 'glove box' on the scooter hurt your knees?
    Thirdly, just out of curiosity, is there any performance mods?
    edit:Its a Honda Activa 4g BTW.
    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by Jujube; 06-18-2017, 12:21 AM.

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  • Chandan92
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by s3thu View Post
    Man, did you change the battery in your Activa. I had the same stalling issue due to weak battery. It fixed after changing to a new one.
    Battery was new, honda asc failed to find out the actual issue why fuse gets blown up every now and then.

    Had to carry spare fuses [emoji38].

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  • s3thu
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
    Update: After spending too much time, had to sell activa it was stalling like 4-5 times in traffic and honda svc were not able to solve things.

    Bought yamaha ray zr (disc variant )

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    Man, did you change the battery in your Activa. I had the same stalling issue due to weak battery. It fixed after changing to a new one.

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  • s3thu
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by Soundsgreat View Post
    Hi,



    I concur with the Sd1 views,Its a very good practice and you should continue. Although I recommend you to keep it for 2-2.5Min as opposed to 1min as discussed in other threads the Engine Oil takes about 2 odd min to reach the heads and hence recommended to wait for 2-2.5 min.

    Also about the kick start,Its also a very very good practice and will not strain the battery on a cold start.

    I do both myself and recommend it !

    Regards.
    My friend owns a dio. He never kick started it but he still uses the same battery for more than 4 years. If you drive it daily, it shouldn't be a problem if you self start every time. I kick start my Activa at times but my battery failed in 3 years.
    Last edited by s3thu; 06-16-2017, 08:08 PM.

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  • s3thu
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by rakeshchn View Post
    Guys, I just bought a used April-2014 manufactured Honda Activa I HET model with 3500 KMs on the ODO. This is for my wife and my ride is a Dream Yuga which has been serving me well for the past 5 years. Since this is my first experience riding an auto gear scooter I wanted to check if the mild woosh/whiny noise coming from transmission when closing the throttle at higher speeds like 30 km/hr and above is normal for honda scooters.
    I have a 2012 Activa. Never had any such noise. Although I have heard a whistle kind of noise from dio when riding around 80kmph. Inspect your vehicle bro. There should not be any noise till 50 kmph other than engine grunt if you full throttle.

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  • s3thu
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    When I'm going around 50kmph and take my hands off the handlebar of my Activa, it tends to shake right and left very fastly. Is it related to front tyre or handlebar not tight enough?

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  • Jujube
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    sorry buddy, i can't help you further without actually listening to the sound. a lot of folks here keep complaining about different raga's, tunes, tick-tocks and it's almost impossible to say if it's a normal or abnormal sound. Please ride another activa and see if you notice similar sounds.
    I understand, actually I am not much worried about it. As long as the scooter is running I'm ecstatic. I am growing attached to the scooter.
    I was imagining what if sounds of ragas and melodies start coming from bike engines for real! Hehe
    Thanks for the reply

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  • s1d
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by Jujube View Post
    Thanks for the reply. I will get the nuts/bolts tightened. But the exhaust noise you mentioned happens when the engine is off right? I know that sound but I was actually worried about engine noise which can only be heard when the engine is very hot and running. If I switch off the engine for 5 minutes then start, the noise is gone. The noise is a much lower note tick sound than exhaust one. More like tock than tick!
    Fuel economy I got between the last 2 fuel stops is 52 kmpl. I am slightly surprised even though after buying it I was expecting 60 kmpl as company mentioned! Then came the shock of course. But after the last check I am quite happy with this.
    Thanks
    sorry buddy, i can't help you further without actually listening to the sound. a lot of folks here keep complaining about different raga's, tunes, tick-tocks and it's almost impossible to say if it's a normal or abnormal sound. Please ride another activa and see if you notice similar sounds.

    the fuel economy you are getting is fabulous.. anything above 45 is good.. with some getting around 42 in stop go traffic or when used for frequent short rides. Forget what the company says. you should be worried if it drops below 42(Assuming your riding pattern/style is the same and you were getting higher FE)
    And always check your fuel economy using the tankful to tankful method (and not by the fuel gauge/reserve calculations).

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  • Jujube
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by s1d View Post
    For the vibrations, get the nuts/bolts tightened (panels/floorboard/side stand).
    The tik-tik-tik sound is normal and your svc mechanic is right. It's the sound of metal (exhaust/catcon) contracting. Occurs on almost every scooter motorcycle especially when they are new. Nothing to worry.
    The fuel economy you are getting is perfect. Enjoy riding it and do not worry much or try to fiddle with something unnecessarily.
    Thanks for the reply. I will get the nuts/bolts tightened. But the exhaust noise you mentioned happens when the engine is off right? I know that sound but I was actually worried about engine noise which can only be heard when the engine is very hot and running. If I switch off the engine for 5 minutes then start, the noise is gone. The noise is a much lower note tick sound than exhaust one. More like tock than tick!
    Fuel economy I got between the last 2 fuel stops is 52 kmpl. I am slightly surprised even though after buying it I was expecting 60 kmpl as company mentioned! Then came the shock of course. But after the last check I am quite happy with this.
    Thanks

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  • s1d
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Originally posted by Jujube View Post
    But last one month I have noticed buzzy floor board vibrations after 50kmph. The vibrations have increased last few days due to hot weather conditions I think. Also there is a tick tick noise coming from the engine if it gets hot after riding for a while. I told this at the service centre but they said its normal!
    For the vibrations, get the nuts/bolts tightened (panels/floorboard/side stand).
    The tik-tik-tik sound is normal and your svc mechanic is right. It's the sound of metal (exhaust/catcon) contracting. Occurs on almost every scooter motorcycle especially when they are new. Nothing to worry.
    The fuel economy you are getting is perfect. Enjoy riding it and do not worry much or try to fiddle with something unnecessarily.

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  • Jujube
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Hi all, I recently purchased Honda Activa 4G about 2 months back. I wanted to buy a motorcycle but due to my lack of riding experience and also I hoped my father could ride it, I decided on a scooter. Well its a awesome scooter. I have not ridden any other scooter so I don't know about others. The suspension could use improvement but other than that everything is nice. But last one month I have noticed buzzy floor board vibrations after 50kmph. The vibrations have increased last few days due to hot weather conditions I think. Also there is a tick tick noise coming from the engine if it gets hot after riding for a while. I told this at the service centre but they said its normal! If anyone has any idea why this is happening please share. I have done about 870 Kms till now. Fuel economy is 45-50kmpl. To be honest I am regretting slightly buying a scooter since I wanted to buy a motorcycle for a long time. But its a terrific scooter, only this feelings of regret kicks in when a young kid on a Fz or a Hornet over takes me on high speeds and without helmet! Its a nice looking scooter, nice matt grey color, accelerates nicely.
    XBhp is an awesome community by the way. I have been reading other ownership threads too. People here are really helpful and not abusive! Anyway here are some pics.
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  • Mandar64
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    Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

    Since rainy season is about to start,did anti-rust treatment for my activa.My mechanic used this Black Japan ,he told me its better than dinitrol.He had applied it on his customer's activa and it prevented from rusting for 2-4 years.
    Attaching the pics of Black Japan and the panels and the body on which applied black japan

    This is Black Japan

    Panels and body where Black Japan was applied from inside

    This is how it looks.
    Cheers [emoji4]

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