Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Vespa is unique,but I don't know about it second hand market value,the demand might be low.Also its difficult to get spares,even at their ASC's sometimes you have to wait.Personally I didn't like the ride quality either.I took the 125cc model out for a spin,for me it did not do well at cutting corners.Performance wise the 125cc engine was good but handling ain't that great.Do consider taking a test ride before you buy.

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Congratulations,and a good decision

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Based on the size, front suspension. We want a full sized scooter - I'm also thinking about vespa which has it's own community and value in second hand market.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Booked Honda Activa 4G in Trance Metallic Blue from dealer named Jayna Motors in Borivali in Mumbai.Will get my Activa by May 20.Had got my Pulsar 220F from this dealer only.Total Amount paid is Rs.64000.The waiting from Honda Showroom is too much 25 days waiting and then registration.Had a good relation with Jayna Motors,they had delivered my Pulsar 220F Misty Grey colour by 15 Days.Made Activa the choice over Dio for its practicality.

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why not just the regular activa 110cc model (i.e 4G, lol i guess they are riding the jio wave)? Honestly I don't think the extra 15cc makes a big difference. The regular activa has a better resale value too.

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Thanks so much for your opinion. I am looking at other things too like longevity of the product and how it holds most of it's parts. Also have to take family's opinions into consideration. It can be something as basic as how they feel about a motorcycle - they feel activa is nice and hefty and is solidly put together in comparison to access. Older people want resale value too so they can sell it after 5 - 10 years with maximum resale value.

So I've thought about it and set my mind on activa 125 for now. I also like how bold it looks. Need to decide but first trying to sell my bike :P

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I would just like to differ on this one. I have ridden, Activa 125 & Access 125 both. Access would surely give a much bettet riding comfort as well as an amazing mileage as compared to Activa 125. Activa 125 vs 4G is a totally a different ball game. Follow your heart, go for Access, you are surely going to love the pick up.

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Thanks for that. I want to make sure my dealership experience is good and I get respected as a customer. That's the only reason I'm avoiding Honda activa 125. I feel I will have to take more time without rushing into purchasing one. The new access will definitely have very less resale value since they've gone for major fibre body overhaul. I like the minimalistic design and space though. So meanwhile I wait, I have to find good buyers for my motorcycle, decide if I have to deal with arrogance and waiting period at Honda's or not.

Hope you are having good times with your dio, even more.

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My personal favorite would be the Honda Activa, bullet proof reliability, easy availability of spares (even in local shops) and a solid body that can take some abuse and still hold up. Apart from that, as you said the resale value is a bit higher for the activa's. Scooters with a lot of plastics are a pain (including the honda dio) and if I were you, I would avoid them.
btw, i own a dio that's 10yrs old and not a single repair on the engine (70k km).. only routine maintenance.. just that the body has taken a beating due to a couple of recent falls and plastics atleast on the dio cost a bomb (13k for the body kit).
I've noticed that some of these other scoots do not age as well as the honda's, just my observation.. Call me a honda scoot fan boy, i don't mind .

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I test rode both Honda activa 125 and Suzuki access 125 BS4 models. I am now in a confusion. If it's just performance I'd go with access 125. My confusion is not with just that. I already have a Suzuki gixxer and the resale value for it in the market is very low - less than 40 thousand rupees and the takers on classifieds are also very demanding and less in number - private buyers who are not brokers.

However, if you consider activa - both 4G and 125, they get sold for the same 40 thousand rupees, irrespective of whether it's just 4 months or 4 years you've owned. There is also so much demand on classifieds. The reasons people attribute this demand to are their metal bodies and brand value.

I am aware Suzuki is as reliable as Honda even in scooter segment but the depreciating value makes me wait and think twice, irrespective of exchanging my bike or not. There is also a problem with Honda dealerships here in my city - they are giving me standard 30 -45 days waiting period in all parts of the city. The spares are too costly in comparison and dealers are lethargic. They're probably like ferrari dealers of the scooter world - until you wave money at them and dress like rich fellas they don't even receive you properly in the showroom.

On one hand I am inclined towards the solid product, activa 125. It's better built than access and also has better resale value after years of ownership. It looks like something that as a family we can keep for 10 -15 years. However not as solid as the 1st generation ones. On the other hand, keeping resale value aside, access seems like a long lasting product with good engine but the fibre body does not give that sense of solid feel and age-proof ownership experience.

In Chennai - activa 125 BS4 retails at 78 thousand rupees with all accessories and benefits. Vespa LX 125 is 83 thousand rupees on road and it's not so far away :P

Access 125 BS4 retails at 72 thousand rupees with all accessories and benefits.

Previously I had plans to exchange my Gixxer and get any of the two scooters; but now I feel like I should buy without exchanging my Gixxer - use it as much and after years sell it for whatever amount it goes. I had brought that vehicle for recreation and I no longer go on long rides. That makes me feel I'll have it in my home and do storage maintenance once I get a scooter for city commutes. Also, everyone else in my family is intending to use the scooter so for them metal body and the bulky feeling due to added weight give a sense of security. Heart says access and mind says activa. I'm impatient to wait - to find a good buyer for my bike and to wait 1 month for activa 125.

What do I do? what helps in the long run?

Previously I had owned an RTR 180 ABS - used it to heart's content and sold it for a good value in the market - reasons being metal tank and flat rear seat.

Kindly help me with your opinions.

The best scooter I had ridden in my search so far is Yamaha Alpha - perfectly under your control always and good for short and tall people alike - throttle response is amazing. But you don't want to pay 71 thousand for the BS4 model because everything is plastic in it and sometimes you think it's engine is plastic too :P

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

not necessarily.. there are a number of other things that can go wrong like bearings, timing chain etc, and you may not see any smoke.. If you see smoke of any color then it sure does require a major repair like replacing the block/piston or valve kit.

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Thank you Sid for quick reply. Appreciate it mate. You made a very valid point of smoke, if there is a problem with engine then there would be smoke. I will ask him if he see anything of that sort. My friend is pretty much gutted to say the least. Just 4 week old scooter and major problems. It is his first bike / scooter. I will keep you posted what happens next.

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It would be a very rare case if the block/piston needs to be replaced so early on. These honda engines are known to clock many more miles before having to be rebuilt.
Honda will only replace the parts/repair it, very unlikely for you to get your money back or a new scooter. At best depending on how you push them (legal action, written complaints via email) they might just replace only the engine. But again most likely outcome is replacement of the parts needed and not entire engine.
Without checking the scoot it is not possible to say what is causing the sound.. and did he notice any smoke in the exhaust ?

Maybe get it checked at another svc or local mechanic (don't fix it, just get another opinion).

those 'safety gaurds' are useless, in fact they might cause more damage by breaking the actual mounting points of the panels.
it's your call if you want to be conservative and get the activa or be sporty and get a dio (and risk the expensive panel replacements if it crashes). Also the dio doesn't have a good resale value.

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Hello, its as s1d said,the activa has better body when compared to the dio,also the fiber body panels are super costly.A year ago an autorikshaw crashed into my parked dio (2013 model),the entire front portion (excluding the visor) needed replacing along with the headlight and turn signals and it cost me around 8000 bucks excluding labour charge.
The only good thing about the dio is its eye catchy (as you said,2017 model is awesome)

What if we put the safety guards on dio.Would it save it from a crash??Zeroed down on activa but still have my eyes on Dio(cant resist the orange one)

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Hello, its as s1d said,the activa has better body when compared to the dio,also the fiber body panels are super costly.A year ago an autorikshaw crashed into my parked dio (2013 model),the entire front portion (excluding the visor) needed replacing along with the headlight and turn signals and it cost me around 8000 bucks excluding labour charge.
The only good thing about the dio is its eye catchy (as you said,2017 model is awesome) and has better acceleration than most scooters in the segment,because honda has tuned its engine to hit the max power at slightly lower rpm and the fiber body weighs less.
The activa on the other hand has way better comfort,smooth acceleration(decent pick up),plenty of spa

What if we put the safety guards on dio.Would it save it from a crash??Zeroed down on activa but still have my eyes on Dio(cant resist the orange one)

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