Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

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Hello, its as s1d said,the activa has better body when compared to the dio,also the fiber body panels are super costly.A year ago an autorikshaw crashed into my parked dio (2013 model),the entire front portion (excluding the visor) needed replacing along with the headlight and turn signals and it cost me around 8000 bucks excluding labour charge.
The only good thing about the dio is its eye catchy (as you said,2017 model is awesome) and has better acceleration than most scooters in the segment,because honda has tuned its engine to hit the max power at slightly lower rpm and the fiber body weighs less.
The activa on the other hand has way better comfort,smooth acceleration(decent pick up),plenty of space to carry stuff and I think the 2017 model comes with a mobile charging point also,I'd stick with the activa,just do the services at regular intervals from a good,reputed ASC.[/QUOTE]

What if we put the safety guards on dio.Would it save it from a crash??Zeroed down on activa but still have my eyes on Dio(cant resist the orange one)

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Hi all,

How likely it is to have engine issue in Activa 3G in the 3 weeks of ownership and around 500+kms of ride? My friends Activa 3G had vibs from engine and body panel since he took the delivery and he had kat-kat sound from engine. After first service it was promised that the issue will go away but it didnt. Upon pressing the service centre mechanic. He said piston block needs replacement. How true it could be?

My friend did send an email to Honda for the Manufacturing Defect in the scooter and asked for money back or another brand new scooter. How likely it is to happen?

Honda quality? What quality?

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thanks again,now its fine after spark plug cap change,Its a CB point ignition bullet(I posted about it on the RE thread)

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Hello, its as s1d said,the activa has better body when compared to the dio,also the fiber body panels are super costly.A year ago an autorikshaw crashed into my parked dio (2013 model),the entire front portion (excluding the visor) needed replacing along with the headlight and turn signals and it cost me around 8000 bucks excluding labour charge.
The only good thing about the dio is its eye catchy (as you said,2017 model is awesome) and has better acceleration than most scooters in the segment,because honda has tuned its engine to hit the max power at slightly lower rpm and the fiber body weighs less.
The activa on the other hand has way better comfort,smooth acceleration(decent pick up),plenty of space to carry stuff and I think the 2017 model comes with a mobile charging point also,I'd stick with the activa,just do the services at regular intervals from a good,reputed ASC.

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As an owner for a Dio for the past 10 years, I would say stay away from it based on your description of its usage.
On the Dio, the engine is a gem no doubt about it, it handles pretty well, looks stylish.. but its drawback is the plastic body. As long as the scoot doesn't fall over it is fine.. but if it does these plastics get damaged easily and it has a LOT of plastic panels. Am not sure how much the body panel's cost on the new Dio (inquire the price and let us know) but on the old (first gen dio's) one the price of the entire body plastics is now around 13k !! My Dio suffers the fate of running with broken panels held together by clamps/tape due to a couple of recent small accidents. When I bought it in 2007, I was told the entire body kit was less than 3000rs.. prices shot up exponentially thereafter.

The activa on the other hand can take much much more abuse i.e. falls and can easily be repaired by tinkering and painting and doesn't have that rattling noises if some plastic part breaks. Handling wise it may not be as 'sporty' as a dio, but it is good and a better choice especially if you will be carrying items/goods. Both these scoots share the same engine and it is a gem. I've covered close to 70k km on my Dio and so far haven't had to touch the engine.. still pulls cleanly and returns the same mileage it always did i.e. 38 ~ 42kmpl depending on how it is ridden.

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

Hello friends, i am confused between honda dio and honda activa.It will be for my daily usage.My hearts says dio and mind says activa.I need to carry some items with me for daily routine,carrying items on bike is not that comfortable while riding bike.Only thing that is keeping dio away from me is the fibre body,where as activa has metal panels on front only i think so.In case of a crash how much would the entire body of dio cost like the side panels,fairing,headlight assemble etc.The new 2017 Dio in orange just drooled over me.In case of a crash would dio take more beating than activa,i am a safe rider but u know how people drive nowadays.i hardly go on highways,most gully road is where i ride.Which is best in handling Dio or Activa.Waiting for the Experienced rider to give suggestion.Thanks in advance

Re: Honda Dio, Activa and Aviator

it has a cdi only. almost every motorcycle (non FI) out here has a cdi ignition(some like apache use TCI), right from your activa's to your pulsar 220.
the old bullets (pre electra) have a points ignition system

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Occasionally,I switch fuel stations and I was thinking about the inline fuel filter you mentioned,is it cleanable or replaced at regular intervals? and what about petrol additives and premium petrol,do they help keep the carb clean or is just a marketing trick.I never used premium petrol before,seen it at many fuel stations,they claim it provides better performance.[/QUOTE]

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My Activa's front tyre developed air leakages over the past few days. It was not a puncture, but rather it was due to the valve going kaput and leaking air. Also the tyre beading which is in contact with the rim and prevents the air was leaking was also not set properly. Previously I had a vertical air valve now it has been changed to a 90 degree horizontal valve. Also the rim inside was cleaned. Previously the dealer had put in a puncture seal which has caused the liquid to stick to the walls of the rim, resulting in a black-and-white residue to stick to the inner walls of the rim. Now I had this residue cleaned via a sand paper. This residue also has stuck to the lower parts of the tyre. The mechanic said that it was not possible to clean it from the tyre and using sand paper on the tyre might damage the tyre. The cost of the entire operation was Rs 200. The local puncture guy was asking for Rs 250 but he did not have any instruments and would do everything by hand. So I took it to a MRF dealer. My tyre is a MRF tyre.

Previously also I had the same problem and that was due to the puncture seal liquid and a combination of Nitrogen causing the beading to loose contact with the rim. That time I had paid Rs 100 to had the liquid cleaned and removed but it appears that the residue was still left behind which was cleaned again this time.

Just wanted to know did anybody else face a similar problem with the front tyre of the Activa? The mechanic told me that it was due to the fact that the Front rim is bigger but it seemed to me a lot of bum.

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thank you for the reply,It has some other type of ignition,no CDI

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Faulty Ignition coil and faulty plug cap can cause premature spark plug failures. First try changing the plug cap with a new one and check the spark quality. The spark should be thick and blue and continous. If you observe, orange and intermittent spark, we have a faulty IC. Replace the ignition coil. If after all this the issue persists, change all three cap/lead IC and CDI.

Usually CDIs last till the lifetime of the vehicle. Spark plug caps and leads overtime tend to crack and oxidize and prevent proper spark from happening. Try inspecting these both, spark plug cap/lead and IC. Also is the spark plug getting fouled? Meaning are the plug ends wet and dark every time the spark plug fails? If yes, then the mixture might be too rich which can cause spark plug fouling.

Cheers!
VJ

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thank you for the reply I bought the fuel filter,went to IOC fuel station for the additive,they didn't have it in stock,guess have to wait a bit longer.

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thank you for the reply,contacted the ASC about the jets,they didn't have it in stock but agreed to arrange it soon.
Got another issue,what all can cause a spark plug failure? its my friend's bike,the spark plug keeps failing,he changed it like 10 times in the past few months.

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Though sid has covered it for the most part, I'd just like to add a few points. Filters can last for years, before requiring a replacement. Those filters are hardly 40 bucks and no they aren't re-washable or cleanable. Once they are gummed up and you see the black sediments below the filter where it creates a sediment-ish layer, it's time to replace the filter. Secondly, there are Adon P and System G fuel additives that are available, the former is Indian Oil and the latter is Bharat Petroleum, though the avlblbty of the latter is a known issue. The former is available in sachets and can be used. Made by Total France.

Thirdly with regards to jet, I'd definitely recommend you to stack up those jets, hardly in and around 100 bucks max for both pilots and main and the needle jet themselves, get them as a pair and save it for future use.

Cheers!
VJ

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You could ask at the svc, but i am not sure they would sell just the jets. But jets are available in the open market. Now since you said the issue is resolved, don't fiddle any further.
You can buy a fuel filter, and it hardly costs 30 bucks. They are not cleanable but just need to be replaced at say 20k km intervals. You can use the additive Adon P (sold at IOC bunks). Even with regular petrol the carb shouldn't gum up very easily and for good measure you can get the carb cleaned every service (i.e 2500~3000km or 6 months).
If you suspect rust or dirt in the petrol tank, it's better you clean the petrol tank once.

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I was thinking of changing the jets in the bowl,can I get them at ASC's (jets only) and any idea about the cost?

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Occasionally,I switch fuel stations and I was thinking about the inline fuel filter you mentioned,is it cleanable or replaced at regular intervals? and what about petrol additives and premium petrol,do they help keep the carb clean or is just a marketing trick.I never used premium petrol before,seen it at many fuel stations,they claim it provides better performance.

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when you remove, clean and put back the carb together and it works, it probably means it was gummed up (maybe not visible to naked eye) and i assume this carb has a rubber diaphragm inside ? Or it might have been a air leak somewhere.
If one does it correctly the first time (i.e. opening it up, cleaning thoroughly and putting it back together) then such issues will be minimized. That's why it's always better to do a full overhaul on these small things (brake calipers, carb's) rather than fidgeting with one item at a time.
I've never seen the need to replace a carb (unless it was stolen or the body physically broken). You get all parts (jets, gasket, float) needed to rebuild the carb.