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  • Rakesh.M
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    Its easy to get yaar...to make things easier, save a pic of the 8smd on your phone...and when you go to any shop, show the pic of the leds to the shop owner so that he can know what exactly you're looking for.

    Tapatalk'd from my Nexus
    That's a great idea.. Thanks man.. Thank's a lot!!

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
    you means its not easy to find a 8 SMD set...????
    Its easy to get yaar...to make things easier, save a pic of the 8smd on your phone...and when you go to any shop, show the pic of the leds to the shop owner so that he can know what exactly you're looking for.

    Tapatalk'd from my Nexus

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  • Naveen1985
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    You are Spot on!!!!! See if you can get a 8 or 9 SMD set.
    you means its not easy to find a 8 SMD set...????

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
    Will 4 smd led be enough.. or shall I go for 8???
    8smd will definitely provide slightly better illumination than the 4smd ones. Go for 8smd ones

    Tapatalk'd from my Nexus

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  • Rakesh.M
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

    They are a direct fit - you just have to open the assembly and plug them in. Just make sure you get the types shown here. Regardless of whatever the shop guys say, the bigger ones will lead to poor illumination, as most of the light will spread out to the sides instead of illuminating the surface of the console. See example below - all of them are T10 LEDs and can fir the standard holders, but their spread of illumination will be different.

    The "right" type of LEDs
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]100856[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]100857[/ATTACH]



    The "wrong" type of LED, avoid these
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]100858[/ATTACH]

    Will 4 smd led be enough.. or shall I go for 8???

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
    correct me if I am wrong but according to me T 10 8 SMD LED (2nd picture with grey background ) will give better illumination than T 10 4 SMD (1st picture) as its focus is towards dials only. so its better to go with second option rather than going for 1st
    You are Spot on!!!!! See if you can get a 8 or 9 SMD set.

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  • Naveen1985
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post




    They are a direct fit - you just have to open the assembly and plug them in. Just make sure you get the types shown here. Regardless of whatever the shop guys say, the bigger ones will lead to poor illumination, as most of the light will spread out to the sides instead of illuminating the surface of the console. See example below - all of them are T10 LEDs and can fir the standard holders, but their spread of illumination will be different.

    The "right" type of LEDs
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]100856[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]100857[/ATTACH]



    The "wrong" type of LED, avoid these
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]100858[/ATTACH]

    correct me if I am wrong but according to me T 10 8 SMD LED (2nd picture with grey background ) will give better illumination than T 10 4 SMD (1st picture) as its focus is towards dials only. so its better to go with second option rather than going for 1st
    Last edited by Naveen1985; 05-10-2013, 07:32 PM.

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
    OMG!!! Then I guess its better not to experiment.. What you say?/
    [MENTION=47200]Rakesh.M[/MENTION] to be honest, the call is entirely up to you. I personally never felt that find the pickup was poor when riding solo, but it was pathetic with a pillion. There are some old members here who have experimented with their Gladiators, but many of them have gone dormant now


    Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
    More over, whenever I apply my front brakes, the bike turn to the right before stopping.. donno kno y..

    Looks like a fork bend or a loose coneset. Have your forks and coneset examined.


    Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
    As you have said, you used 9 SMD T10 LEDs.. But are they direct fit or do I need to change something??/
    I dont have any idea regarding this..

    They are a direct fit - you just have to open the assembly and plug them in. Just make sure you get the types shown here. Regardless of whatever the shop guys say, the bigger ones will lead to poor illumination, as most of the light will spread out to the sides instead of illuminating the surface of the console. See example below - all of them are T10 LEDs and can fir the standard holders, but their spread of illumination will be different.

    The "right" type of LEDs
    Click image for larger version Name: right1.jpg Views: 1 Size: 25.9 KB ID: 1845438Click image for larger version Name: right2.JPG Views: 1 Size: 14.5 KB ID: 1845439



    The "wrong" type of LED, avoid these
    Click image for larger version Name: wrong.jpg Views: 1 Size: 47.3 KB ID: 1845440

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  • Rakesh.M
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    It's recommended not to oversize by 3-4 teech. Listing some sprocket counts here for your reference.

    Apache RTR180: 46T
    HH CBZ Classic: 46T
    Apache RTR160: 44T
    Pulsar 150 Classic: 44T
    Pulsar 180 UG3: 43T
    KTM Duke 200: 43T
    Honda Unicorn: 43T
    Yamaha R15 : 42T

    I am not sure which of these are compatible with the Gladiator but a 43T should serve you perfectly fine, with top speed dropping from 105 to 90kph maybe, but ~10% improvement in acceleration. 44T will give even better acceleration, but top end dropping to ~80. The actual calculation is a bit complicated, and I'm no Einstein :P !

    The advantage would definitely be better pickup but be warned that the rice in acceleration will also affect your FE and engine smoothness. E.g., if you used to ride at 60kph @ 5000 RPM on stock sprockets, it will now drop to ~52kph at 5000 RPM - hence, your bike will feel more strained at the same speed than before.


    OMG!!! Then I guess its better not to experiment.. What you say?/

    More over, whenever I apply my front brakes, the bike turn to the right before stopping.. donno kno y..
    One more thing is that I want to change my console lights to LED lamps.. As you have said, you used 9 SMD T10 LEDs.. But are they direct fit or do I need to change something??/
    I dont have any idea regarding this..

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
    Thank you bbsrailfan..
    I dont know which bike has 42T or more.. Can you help me regarding this??
    I normally ride at 60-70 kmph. Will the top speed come down to 70s???
    It's recommended not to oversize by 3-4 teech. Listing some sprocket counts here for your reference.

    Apache RTR180: 46T
    HH CBZ Classic: 46T
    Apache RTR160: 44T
    Pulsar 150 Classic: 44T
    Pulsar 180 UG3: 43T
    KTM Duke 200: 43T
    Honda Unicorn: 43T
    Yamaha R15 : 42T

    I am not sure which of these are compatible with the Gladiator but a 43T should serve you perfectly fine, with top speed dropping from 105 to 90kph maybe, but ~10% improvement in acceleration. 44T will give even better acceleration, but top end dropping to ~80. The actual calculation is a bit complicated, and I'm no Einstein :P !

    The advantage would definitely be better pickup but be warned that the rice in acceleration will also affect your FE and engine smoothness. E.g., if you used to ride at 60kph @ 5000 RPM on stock sprockets, it will now drop to ~52kph at 5000 RPM - hence, your bike will feel more strained at the same speed than before.
    Last edited by bbsrailfan; 05-10-2013, 01:38 PM.

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  • Rakesh.M
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    Rakesh, The Gladiator has a 41T rear sprocket and the P220 as a 36T, if I am not mistaken. Going for a lesser tooth will increase the speed at a particular RPM while lowering the power. You need to do the reverse - a 42T or 43T would improve pickup, but will cause a drop in top speed.

    Tapatalk'd from my Nexus
    Thank you bbsrailfan..
    I dont know which bike has 42T or more.. Can you help me regarding this??
    I normally ride at 60-70 kmph. Will the top speed come down to 70s???

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Rakesh.M View Post
    Hi Guys.. I need your help regarding sprockets..
    The rear sprockets of my gladiator has worn out and it is due for a change. As we all know that Gladiator does not have a great low end torque, I was thinking if I could replace it with pulsar 220's sprocket instead. Will it be a great idea to do so??
    Rakesh, The Gladiator has a 41T rear sprocket and the P220 as a 36T, if I am not mistaken. Going for a lesser tooth will increase the speed at a particular RPM while lowering the power. You need to do the reverse - a 42T or 43T would improve pickup, but will cause a drop in top speed.

    Tapatalk'd from my Nexus

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  • Rakesh.M
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Hi Guys.. I need your help regarding sprockets..
    The rear sprockets of my gladiator has worn out and it is due for a change. As we all know that Gladiator does not have a great low end torque, I was thinking if I could replace it with pulsar 220's sprocket instead. Will it be a great idea to do so??

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  • Naveen1985
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
    Arre bhai...thats too much. I am just learning through helping others

    BTW I am not seeing any the old members on the Gladiator ownership threads...have you all changed your rides?
    still you are very humble, polite and helpful by nature...

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  • bbsrailfan
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    Re: Yamaha Gladiator(All)

    Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
    Thanks a lot for such a detailed reply....according to me you are the most helpful person on xbhp....
    Arre bhai...thats too much. I am just learning through helping others

    BTW I am not seeing any the old members on the Gladiator ownership threads...have you all changed your rides?

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