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I visited the Yamaha factory shop here, but they do not have Ss125 for TD. I can understand as it's not a hot selling model, so they do not have TD vehicle. They had TD for all the latest and moving models like FZ and so on.
So please tell me friends - how bad is the low end torque of the SS125? I liked the overall bike in terms of built, VFM and other aspects. The only things I cannot guess is performance, so I have to rely on your opinions/experiences. Can you tell me names of a few bikes which come close to SS125 in terms of pick-up? For e.g. One could say, the SS125 pick-up is similar to that of a Splendor. And so on.
I'm not looking at doing any races from signal standstill, but still, with pillion I would like the bike to accelerate well from standstill. Or say pick-up from standing on a flyover bridge. These are testing times for a vehicle, right?
This will really help me to confirm my decision to buy the SS125. Else I might have to shy away and look at Discover 150 or 125ST. But I really don't want to go the Bajaj way. Honda bikes are tad expensive compared to Bajaj, Hero or Yamaha.Last edited by squid; 11-23-2012, 12:52 AM.
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Agreed, older Discovers are no match...but have you ridden the new 2012 Discover 125ST? I took a TD and really fell in love with the torque and the gas-charged monoshock at the rear. Still a puny bike, though! The Gladiator is really big for a 125, and it doesn't feel tiny when parked next to bigger bikes like the Pulsars, Unicorns and SZs.Originally posted by shankspatel View PostI agree to some of the points above, but i don't think that Discover is a match for SS125, I have ridden both discover and stunner several times, but believe me they are no where near as comfortable as SS125.
I haven't got a chance to ride Ignitor yet so i don't want to comment about that, but according to me top contenders in 125cc segment is SS125 and Stunner. Discover doesn't match either of them in either looks,smoothness or performance
BTW the Ignitor is nothing but a Stunner with new clothes!
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Originally posted by bbsrailfan View PostIf you can live with a relatively poor low-end torque and if your love revving your bike through all gears, then the Gladiator/SS125/YBR125 won't disappoint you. The power and torque are delivered quite high in the revs range, so low-end performance is not in the league of, say, Honda or Bajaj.
But the high-end performance won't disappoint. 62-65 km/h at 5000 RPM, a highway cruising speed of 80-85kph and a top speed of 100+ kph at 7500-8000RPM are very decent specs, even today, for a 125cc. Just compare with some modern bikes like the Stunner/Ignitor and you will get a picture. As of now, only a couple of 125cc bikes (like the Discover 125ST) can beat the Yamaha hands down. I'd suggest you to take a TD to see how the low-end power delivery feels in city/commuting situations.
The SS125 is based on Yamaha's time-tested and reliable international YBR125 platform and the YBR125 is sold in the UK and many other countries. That said, the YBR125 platform has been successfully running in India since over a decade, with many models based on the same platform (starting with the frog-eyed Fazer 125 in 2001 to the the several iterations of the Gladiator (Graffiti, JA, SS, RS) and currently available as the Sporty SS125 and the 'original' YBR125).
So yes, the model names (and appearances) keeps changing but the heart of the bike has essentially remained unchanged since a decade - a reliable YBR125 derived, air-cooled engine giving 10.8 BHP @6500 RPM and a 5 speed gearbox.
Hope that helped!
I agree to some of the points above, but i don't think that Discover is a match for SS125, I have ridden both discover and stunner several times, but believe me they are no where near as comfortable as SS125.
I haven't got a chance to ride Ignitor yet so i don't want to comment about that, but according to me top contenders in 125cc segment is SS125 and Stunner. Discover doesn't match either of them in either looks,smoothness or performance
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If you can live with a relatively poor low-end torque and if your love revving your bike through all gears, then the Gladiator/SS125/YBR125 won't disappoint you. The power and torque are delivered quite high in the revs range, so low-end performance is not in the league of, say, Honda or Bajaj.Originally posted by squid View PostWhen I saw the SS 125 - I just fell in love with it. It was in blue color. So guys, I wanted to ask whether it's a good buy even today? Or should I be looking at something else?
But the high-end performance won't disappoint. 62-65 km/h at 5000 RPM, a highway cruising speed of 80-85kph and a top speed of 100+ kph at 7500-8000RPM are very decent specs, even today, for a 125cc. Just compare with some modern bikes like the Stunner/Ignitor and you will get a picture. As of now, only a couple of 125cc bikes (like the Discover 125ST) can beat the Yamaha hands down. I'd suggest you to take a TD to see how the low-end power delivery feels in city/commuting situations.
The SS125 is based on Yamaha's time-tested and reliable international YBR125 platform and the YBR125 is sold in the UK and many other countries. That said, the YBR125 platform has been successfully running in India since over a decade, with many models based on the same platform (starting with the frog-eyed Fazer 125 in 2001 to the the several iterations of the Gladiator (Graffiti, JA, SS, RS) and currently available as the Sporty SS125 and the 'original' YBR125).Originally posted by squid View PostI'm just worried about Yamaha discontinuing so many models and bringing out so many new ones that if the SS125 goes out of production there might be a problem with spares.
So yes, the model names (and appearances) keeps changing but the heart of the bike has essentially remained unchanged since a decade - a reliable YBR125 derived, air-cooled engine giving 10.8 BHP @6500 RPM and a 5 speed gearbox.
Hope that helped!
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Hello guys! It's great to be here. I've been browsing XBHP for more than a week now. Have checked so many threads about initial impression, ownership, etc. Truly helpful and also educating.
I've a Yamaha RX135 (Feb 2004) which I plan to give away to my cousin. Therefore I need a new bike for myself. Yesterday I visited 4 showrooms - Suzuki, TVS, Hero and Yamaha.
When I saw the SS 125 - I just fell in love with it. It was in blue color. So guys, I wanted to ask whether it's a good buy even today? Or should I be looking at something else? I've read many threads, and I think the average is about 50~55Kmpl. So that should be fine with me. I'm just worried about Yamaha discontinuing so many models and bringing out so many new ones that if the SS125 goes out of production there might be a problem with spares.
Do let me know your honest views guys! Whether I should go for it or not. I will post separate thread for "which bike?".
Thanks in advance.
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Hello glady owners I was a proud owner of yamaha gladiator type rs which was my first bike and i loved my glady more each day. my glady inspite being a 125cc was a very good performer and was the best commuter of its class. i loved the way it accelerated from 0-80 and in 4 years of experience,it never gave any major problems my friends had big bikes like 220s,rx,fazer,karizma,rtr180 but my glady never held me back in any of those bike trips. i was proud about my glady. i have done a lot of short trips in my glady, most of the times i rode alone as i wanted it to jump like a horse in each gear which was not possible in presence of a pillion. i have seen many complaining about this bike but i never faced any major issues. i clocked 35000 wonderful kms on my glady in 4 yrs. i got a mileage of 45, i agree FE was less but it performed well for a 125cc bike. Top speed of 110 kms with a pillion in the bengaluru nice road and the bike was stable this was a short write up about experience with my glady some of the basic issues in my glady which is common in all bikes battery,tire,air filter and chain sprocket(first chain sprocket was never maintained but lasted for 33000kms) changed at 34000 kms. i want to post some of pic in memory of my glady hope most of you will like the pics
[IMG]javascript:void(0);[/IMG]Last edited by Praj zm; 11-03-2012, 08:34 PM.
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Hi guys.
I got my bike check from one of the local mechanic, he just retuned the carb so now the pickup and engine has become much better and peppier.
engine runs smooth now, and no lag in acceleration. drive is much better.
uneven engine beats are still there and mileage is same around 42kmpl.
Dont know what to do with mileage.
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Hi, I have recently re-done my brother's Glady. Besides changing the valves, I have changed the piston block kit and carburretor. I too have experienced the irregular engine beat. After my mechanic's check he just removed the choke from the carburretor and refitted it. The engine beats with a regular rhythm now. I suggest you ask the mechanic to check the choke.Originally posted by prashantsnki View PostHi guys.
my Gladiator (SS125 type) is 5 months old.. bought it on 4th june 2012.
everything is fine but just few problems i have observed with my bike.
3 services are done. nest service due in the month of November.
following are the problems i have observed from day one.
1) My mileage is really very low. 42km/ltr(i checked it thrice). i daily ride for 20 km. 50% in cut to cut traffic and other 50 at normal speed. service centre guy say it will improve eventually. i dont think so.
2) there is some problem with engine. when i keep it idling the engine is not running at a fixed speed. its continuously changing speed... running is not rhythmic. suppose if i hold it at particular rpm (Say 3000) there is a sound coming from engine as if engine has misses the beat. i mean to say is its not running at synchronised speed. theres sound of "thup thup" after some intervals when kept at constant rpm.
above two problems i have been observing from day one. no one knows anything about it at service centrer.
3) this problem i have been experiencing since last two days. my throttle response has become really laggy.. earlier my bike was fun to drive...but since two days am not able to overtake anyone, engines response is not up to the mark as it used to be before. it worsens when riding with pillion. even when i put more throttle engine just makes noise as i dont see much improvement in the speed and torque.
kindly help me with this. sorry for bad english
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To be frank, I am getting this mileage right from the beginning, I haven't modified my bike or anything to get a higher mileage.Originally posted by prashantsnki View PostGuys how you get this kind of mileage, i am struggling with with 41-43, what can be done to improve the mileage without affecting performance? as am already facing performance issue.. my bike is relatively new.. its been just 5 months!
I think only this factors may be affecting your bike's mileage
Fuel: where do you regularly get your bike filled up
Road & Driving conditions: where are you located
Improper servicing done by the mechanic
Speed: whats your average speed on road
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Originally posted by shankspatel View PostYes the newer version is more Fuel efficient, I am getting around 53-55 KMs in city conditions with a bit harsh riding, when i maintain speed in the range 40-60 i get mileage up to 57 KM/L
Guys how you get this kind of mileage, i am struggling with with 41-43, what can be done to improve the mileage without affecting performance? as am already facing performance issue.. my bike is relatively new.. its been just 5 months!
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Yes the newer version is more Fuel efficient, I am getting around 53-55 KMs in city conditions with a bit harsh riding, when i maintain speed in the range 40-60 i get mileage up to 57 KM/LOriginally posted by bbsrailfan View PostIf you have some prior experience in handling mechanicals, there are lots of Do-It-Yourself posts on this forum where you can learn step-by-step on tuning your AFR to the optimal mix / cleaning your carb at home. If you are a newbie, I'd suggest you to visit the service center or a trusted mechanic.
Have they improved the FE in newer Yamahas (SS125)? Most of the 2008-2009 Gladi's (SS/RS/JA/Graffiti) have a similar FE of 45-50. Ofcourse you can keep a lean mix and ride really softly to push the FE further.
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If you have some prior experience in handling mechanicals, there are lots of Do-It-Yourself posts on this forum where you can learn step-by-step on tuning your AFR to the optimal mix / cleaning your carb at home. If you are a newbie, I'd suggest you to visit the service center or a trusted mechanic.Originally posted by prashantsnki View Posthey guys thanks for replay.
questions.
1) how to check and keep setting at optimum air:fuel ratio? should i do it by outside mechanic other than yamaha guys?
2) can i clean carb myself? or do i need to check with yamaha guys.
3) most of the forums i have visited they say that mileage is around in the range of 50-55. i think mine is really low.
Have they improved the FE in newer Yamahas (SS125)? Most of the 2008-2009 Gladi's (SS/RS/JA/Graffiti) have a similar FE of 45-50. Ofcourse you can keep a lean mix and ride really softly to push the FE further.
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3) Yes that's true, I am using my SS125 from the last one year, i have nearly covered 14k KMs on it, I am getting a mileage of 52-54 KM mileage in Bangalore traffic and up to 57 KM on Highways.Originally posted by prashantsnki View Posthey guys thanks for replay.
questions.
1) how to check and keep setting at optimum air:fuel ratio? should i do it by outside mechanic other than yamaha guys?
2) can i clean carb myself? or do i need to check with yamaha guys.
3) most of the forums i have visited they say that mileage is around in the range of 50-55. i think mine is really low.
the reason for your low mileage may be due to bad fuel, try filling petrol from some good petrol bunks like shell and see if the mileage increases.
and as for questions raised earlier in discussions, i have never had any difficulty in either slow or higher speed on my bike, the top speed i achieved on my bike is 109 in highway without vibrations( I chickened out and slowed after reaching that speed). I ride as slow 20 to 30 KM if the pill
on rider is a lady without any problem. so no problem either even in slow speed.
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Originally posted by bbsrailfan View PostMileage of 42-45 is normal for all Gladiators. Maximum that I have achieved till date is 48 in city and 52 on highways.
Check your AFR (Air-Fuel ratio) - fluctuating RPMs are usually an indicator on non-optimal AFR. If the AFR is correct, you may need to clean your carburettor.
As the case with many others, the thup-thup sound exists in my Gladiator too, and I really dont see it as a cause for concern.
hey guys thanks for replay.
questions.
1) how to check and keep setting at optimum air:fuel ratio? should i do it by outside mechanic other than yamaha guys?
2) can i clean carb myself? or do i need to check with yamaha guys.
3) most of the forums i have visited they say that mileage is around in the range of 50-55. i think mine is really low.
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Mileage of 42-45 is normal for all Gladiators. Maximum that I have achieved till date is 48 in city and 52 on highways.Originally posted by prashantsnki View PostHi guys.
my Gladiator (SS125 type) is 5 months old.. bought it on 4th june 2012.
everything is fine but just few problems i have observed with my bike.
3 services are done. nest service due in the month of November.
following are the problems i have observed from day one.
1) My mileage is really very low. 42km/ltr(i checked it thrice). i daily ride for 20 km. 50% in cut to cut traffic and other 50 at normal speed. service centre guy say it will improve eventually. i dont think so.
2) there is some problem with engine. when i keep it idling the engine is not running at a fixed speed. its continuously changing speed... running is not rhythmic. suppose if i hold it at particular rpm (Say 3000) there is a sound coming from engine as if engine has misses the beat. i mean to say is its not running at synchronised speed. theres sound of "thup thup" after some intervals when kept at constant rpm.
above two problems i have been observing from day one. no one knows anything about it at service centrer.
3) this problem i have been experiencing since last two days. my throttle response has become really laggy.. earlier my bike was fun to drive...but since two days am not able to overtake anyone, engines response is not up to the mark as it used to be before. it worsens when riding with pillion. even when i put more throttle engine just makes noise as i dont see much improvement in the speed and torque.
kindly help me with this. sorry for bad english
Check your AFR (Air-Fuel ratio) - fluctuating RPMs are usually an indicator on non-optimal AFR. If the AFR is correct, you may need to clean your carburettor.
As the case with many others, the thup-thup sound exists in my Gladiator too, and I really dont see it as a cause for concern.
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