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  • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
    ......when i end up emptying my tank while riding the bike nd due to which the bike turns off after jerking few times....will this cause any problem to my bike??...
    To reply usefully to Vimal, and not only looking down upon his concern about this hoax that the Internet is spreading about the fuel saving with half-full tank (forgetting evaporation, water condensation....so silly!):

    This "jerking" of your bike when you get it to run with fuel starvation - up to complete starvation and shutting down, IS prejudicial to your bike, yes.

    The lean fuel-air mix that you will have does not have the time to burn your valves, oh no!, but the shocks you give to your transmission will cause damages. First to suffer are the rubber cylinders that act as shock absorbent (that kind of shock) inside your clutch mechanism. Second will be the chain. Third will be another set of rubber blocks that also act as shock absorbing and are located between the rear sprocket and rear wheel. To a minor extend, the whole transmission will be affected. Ultimately, since your engine will have short, sudden bursts of power while it has also gone down low in rpm, hence having less lubrication, it could be damageable to your crank/ conrod.

    You will not, with a Constant Velocity carb. like the one fitted on the FZ, be able to manually impose such violent shocks by sudden accelerations. Only the sport and trail bikes, with direct opening of the slide, can do this, and not even as violently since the quantity of fuel admitted is depending on the venturi (aspiration) inside the carburetor when the slide and the needle go up, while with this fuel starvation, it receives sudden "injection" of fuel.

    You are savvy on fuel, Vimal, but I am afraid than doing so you will end up spending more in the end.....

    ....My two cents....
    When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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    • Originally posted by raj157 View Post
      ... its about the respect you show to your fellow bikers and those from the other countries.. If you dont like people asking about mileage dont reply to those posts... You have no right to insult the people of INDIA brother.... thats it. And in past posts as well i have seen you complaining about various things... If you dont like dont comment ...thats it bro.... We are here to learn... many bikers are joining XBHP and they might have the same question... mileage mileage mileage... so if you have the enthusiasm to help them with the mileage factor do that... else dont read that post and move on ....

      And about Joel Joseph...he is also an indian who even thinks about mileage factor and he too has made these racing upgrades like the bigbore.FFE,etc and he says it will increase mileage... and yes it does increases mileage...

      Mate...you need to look at the bigger picture...
      Hi Raj,
      You certainly have a point in reminding that the cost of a FZ here is the cost of a CBR or Ninja in India.
      I would, however, have difficulties in admitting that those who just buy a "commuter" will be those tempted by the "muscular" FZ. Unicorn or Hero are better for such purpose!
      The FZ is very much of a show bike. Then, I see a flagrant contradiction between crying about the effectively modest FE performance of the FZ when one has chosen this specific bike for these specific "macho" reasons.

      Then please re-read my post. I commented on how the people complaining about the mileage make India people look. Did I write any insult there? I repeat: I heard this constant complaint being mocked by more than one here - and yes: they have to be more wealthy than in your country to afford this bike. Nevertheless...!

      Do you remember Mad Mik's mockery with his joke post about changing the dust caps on the air nipples on the wheels? He too gets amazed by the daily comments on FE....but so be it. But then, to go to the extreme of considering the weight saving by half filling the tank for better economy: does that deserve to be commended, or mocked?

      As for Joel Joseph: I recently explained in a few words - to which J.J. himself did not find anything worth adding - how he gets better FE with his big bore kit, FFE, etc.... Haven't been mocking anybody there, have I?

      I do criticize when someone deserves, in my opinion, to be criticized. This is just what you are doing on your post, right? You have the right to express your disagreement, and I have this right too. You are not insulting me in doing so, I am NOT insulting Indians in criticizing what I found is worth commenting the way I did it.
      Last edited by Lucky Luke; 08-22-2012, 04:46 PM.
      When I do something stupid, my consolation is to know that I'll do the worse one only once!

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      • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
        To reply usefully to Vimal, and not only looking down upon his concern about this hoax that the Internet is spreading about the fuel saving with half-full tank (forgetting evaporation, water condensation....so silly!):

        This "jerking" of your bike when you get it to run with fuel starvation - up to complete starvation and shutting down, IS prejudicial to your bike, yes.

        The lean fuel-air mix that you will have does not have the time to burn your valves, oh no!, but the shocks you give to your transmission will cause damages. First to suffer are the rubber cylinders that act as shock absorbent (that kind of shock) inside your clutch mechanism. Second will be the chain. Third will be another set of rubber blocks that also act as shock absorbing and are located between the rear sprocket and rear wheel. To a minor extend, the whole transmission will be affected. Ultimately, since your engine will have short, sudden bursts of power while it has also gone down low in rpm, hence having less lubrication, it could be damageable to your crank/ conrod.

        You will not, with a Constant Velocity carb. like the one fitted on the FZ, be able to manually impose such violent shocks by sudden accelerations. Only the sport and trail bikes, with direct opening of the slide, can do this, and not even as violently since the quantity of fuel admitted is depending on the venturi (aspiration) inside the carburetor when the slide and the needle go up, while with this fuel starvation, it receives sudden "injection" of fuel.

        You are savvy on fuel, Vimal, but I am afraid than doing so you will end up spending more in the end.....

        ....My two cents....

        Thats it bro....all u had to say was " doing so is not gud for your bike..."......nd i am not crying over fuel efficiency.....just checking is it returning me the same mileage as others are getting...if not then i may have to do some corrective measure.........cool down buddy.....we all r part of Yamaha family.....

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        • Originally posted by MoonLight View Post
          Hi All,

          This is my first post on xBHP. I was looking for reviews of Yamaha FZ on internet and stumbled upon this huge huge ownership thread of FZ. I am looking forward to help from you all so that I can make informed decision of buying FZ.

          Can somebody please tell on road price of FZ16 in Delhi ? Anybody who bought recently in past month or so.

          Also suggest good yamaha dealer in Delhi..which can be contacted for test ride and final booking( I am waiting for that day literally).

          Thanks All.
          The Price of FZ16 will be 79k and the Price of FZ-S will be around 81k. Just check with different dealers in Delhi to find out any season offers available. Try visiting 3-4 dealers and you will find yourself which one is best.

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          • Originally posted by sathishholla View Post
            Guys,

            Need some help. I changed the entire chain sprocket set a week back since the previous chain was making a strange knocking noise which increased as I drive along.
            But now, once the chain sprocket set has been replaced, there seems to be a different sound, like "krr... krr" coming from the chain and it increases as I speed along.. It's very evident when I drive down a slope in neutral.

            Anyone faced this problem before ? I will go to the SVC in a couple of days, But want to get some inputs first.
            Maybe the krr sound is coming because of new sprockets and I think it should be normal. Try to just move on in nuetral gear and see if the sounds exists and if it is then surely it's the new chain noise and also see if the chain slack is tight. Anyways everything will be fine in 150-300 kms of run. At next chain lubing the krr sound will turn into sweet chrrr sound.

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            • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
              Thats it bro....all u had to say was " doing so is not gud for your bike..."......nd i am not crying over fuel efficiency.....just checking is it returning me the same mileage as others are getting...if not then i may have to do some corrective measure.........cool down buddy.....we all r part of Yamaha family.....
              Completely unnecessary discussion on your query. The fact is that, by your message it is clearly understood that you wanted to do full tank mileage checking. And it doesn't matter if the bike jerks for once in a while. It's always said too much care is too bad. I think our bikes must be adapted to the conditions of certain place. Like poor quality fuel, rough roads, etc, etc.

              @ Vimal it's better you learn more things by experience than simply getting embarrassed for no reason. Mileage is important for every person. As money don't grow on trees, so we need to regularly check the mileage of our bikes. If the company says 45km/l then with aggressive racing = atleast 36 km/l and splendor mode = atleast 43 km/l. And if anything is wrong better then we ask our service guys to clear out. Afterall we have paid a premium for our babes comparing to other bikes in the same segment.

              I don't want to talk about other countries, it is their own problem of high pricing.
              Last edited by jonahmano; 08-22-2012, 08:29 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Lucky Luke View Post
                Now, I am speechless!!!

                I tell you very frankly, bros: this obsession about mileage gives to the many foreigners on this website a VERY BAD picture of the whole of India: cheapos beyond imagination!

                This last one is to be marked with a black stone (an infamous color, in many countries!): asking if a few kilos will influence the sacro-saint mileage reaches the pinnacle of ridicule!

                I am really pissed and seriously wonder if it is worth anything hanging around there and giving advices to people who hardly deserve to have a push bike!
                How many rich foreigners? Only two or three to count........ @ Luke, you are fortunate to talk against Indians in an Indian bike forum. Be grateful atleast for that. Few intelligent crows can't advice a pack of vultures

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                • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                  Completely unnecessary discussion on your query. The fact is that, by your message it is clearly understood that you wanted to do full tank mileage checking. And it doesn't matter if the bike jerks for once in a while. It's always said too much care is too bad. I think our bikes must be adapted to the conditions of certain place. Like poor quality fuel, rough roads, etc, etc.

                  @ Vimal it's better you learn more things by experience than simply getting embarrassed for no reason. Mileage is important for every person. As money don't grow on trees, so we need to regularly check the mileage of our bikes. If the company says 45km/l then with aggressive racing = atleast 36 km/l and splendor mode = atleast 43 km/l. And if anything is wrong better then we ask our service guys to clear out. Afterall we have paid a premium for our babes comparing to other bikes in the same segment.

                  I don't want to talk about other countries, it is their own problem of high pricing.

                  agreed dude....but what if i screw my engine by such act......nd it will again cost me a fortune.......isnt it better asking you guys??......you all are much experienced than me ......

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                  • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
                    agreed dude....but what if i screw my engine by such act......nd it will again cost me a fortune.......isnt it better asking you guys??......you all are much experienced than me ......
                    Yeah.. you are right..If you have any doubts always ask the expert..we are here to learn and share things, None of us here are born genius, everybody has right to ask and that's why this forum exists..don't feel that you are getting embarrassed by asking simple question, it might be simple for the so called "experts", but it's of very high importance to you(because you are the one who is facing the problem, not them), even the experts would have faced the same problem some time back and they would have posted it in some other forum or would have asked some one for the solution, that's how we all learn.

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                    • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                      The Price of FZ16 will be 79k and the Price of FZ-S will be around 81k. Just check with different dealers in Delhi to find out any season offers available. Try visiting 3-4 dealers and you will find yourself which one is best.
                      Thanks for reply ! I enquired price from one dealer before posting my query here, he quoted 78 K for FZ16. I expected it be somewhere around 70K ( reference: price list on bikedekho.com ). I just needed to make sure he is not overquoting it. I think yamaha has bumped up ex showroom prices of FZ by atleast 7-8K.

                      Also, if some yamaha owners in delhi have bad experience with particular dealer please let me know. So i can avoid that dealer atleast..

                      or if there are any dealers that are too good in servicing, customer relation...

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                      • Yo guys, FZ owner for 6 months, I'm so pissed that i discovered this forum this late,
                        A little about my bike, read the comments from 600 to 1000 and then gave up.

                        Total km Run: 6250 (At an average of 1000km/month)

                        Accidents: Nothing major, lost my balance when i stopped near a hair pin curve (Which was a dumb move btw ), heavy pillion was partly to blame, The butterfly gaurd took most of the hit, but unfortunately my bike fell on the right side and the muffler got scratched real bad, the first one of many i guess.

                        3 services done.

                        problems: The rear brakes seem too weak compared to my friends fz, tightening it would just lock/restrict the wheel rotation of the wheel, but i've got adjusted to it and when applied with front, the breaking systems seems to be impeccable.

                        No modification except the removal of saree gaurd

                        Top speed: 108kmph

                        Mileage: 37kmpl when i ride like a madman, 42 when i ride like a gentleman.

                        Best Ride till now: Mysore->ooty->wayanad->Mysore :: 600km of total awesome riding.

                        Just had my 3rd service and the bike is smoother than ever.

                        Will look forward for discussion in this forum in the coming days, got a lot of queries for you guys to clear.

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                        • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                          @ Luke, you are fortunate to talk against Indians in an Indian bike forum. Be grateful atleast for that. Few intelligent crows can't advice a pack of vultures
                          Let us hope he has fled with his life but I have a simple doubt: Is this forum limitted to Indians only? If yes, why was he allowed to register and participate in this discussion when it is clearly shown in his profile that he is from Vietnam and why do we sometimes depent websites started by forigners for refference? Growth from a vulture to Vamana and then to sub-zero to drive away someone is pathetic especially nowadays when we, the proud Indians, are called indigenous people which - according to them - means beggars by World Bank.
                          Knowledge is knowledge, whether it is from Congo, India, Vietnam or Qatar or wherever else.
                          Thse are two common questions we hear here: 1. My bike was giving 31.25 kml mileage but was 31 kml last time when I checked by full tank to full tank method. Does it need a tappet adjusting or carb tuning? 2. I was riding at 12K RPM today when the bike is in breaking in period. Does the engine need replacement? I am ready to replace it if the company gives it free.

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                          • Originally posted by bashbaliga View Post
                            Yo guys, FZ owner for 6 months, I'm so pissed that i discovered this forum this late,
                            A little about my bike, read the comments from 600 to 1000 and then gave up.

                            Total km Run: 6250 (At an average of 1000km/month)

                            Accidents: Nothing major, lost my balance when i stopped near a hair pin curve (Which was a dumb move btw ), heavy pillion was partly to blame, The butterfly gaurd took most of the hit, but unfortunately my bike fell on the right side and the muffler got scratched real bad, the first one of many i guess.

                            3 services done.

                            problems: The rear brakes seem too weak compared to my friends fz, tightening it would just lock/restrict the wheel rotation of the wheel, but i've got adjusted to it and when applied with front, the breaking systems seems to be impeccable.

                            No modification except the removal of saree gaurd

                            Top speed: 108kmph

                            Mileage: 37kmpl when i ride like a madman, 42 when i ride like a gentleman.

                            Best Ride till now: Mysore->ooty->wayanad->Mysore :: 600km of total awesome riding.

                            Just had my 3rd service and the bike is smoother than ever.

                            Will look forward for discussion in this forum in the coming days, got a lot of queries for you guys to clear.

                            http://i.imgur.com/ijLBg.jpg
                            Welcome to xBhp!!

                            Regarding your rear brake bite. You can get it adjusted by any mechanic or at the SVC.
                            I had the same problem, my rear brake bite was too low. The rear brake did not make an impression even when I used literally stand on it.
                            After getting it adjusted during the first service when I told SVC guys abt it, the rear brake has caused wheel locking a few times

                            Also I dont think adjusting brake bite would restrict the rotation of the wheel. Where did u get that from??

                            So just get it adjusted to your liking instead of you adjusting to it

                            Cheers!!
                            Last edited by arijitmaniac; 08-23-2012, 02:27 PM.
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                            • @All

                              It is not a good thing to turn this thread into another hate thread or a mud slinging fest like it is usually witnessed in other ownership threads. So i shall request all members both juniors and seniors to kindly refrain from posting anymore messages not relevant to ownership related issues.

                              @ Luke & Mik: I do agree partially with you that at times it indeed becomes annoying to witness a major group of users to talk only about mileage... but please understand that this is India: a mileage obsessed country.. where a major purchase decision regarding a 2 wheeler or a four wheeler is not just based on the price but also related to mileage.. there is no helping it no stopping to it.

                              Xbhp as a community encourages people from all across the globe to come forward to share their experiences and biking condtions/problems etc. prevailing in the respective countries they are residing in so especially for those members who feel that this is India only thread... please keep this in mind PERIOD! kindly refrain from posting instigating messages and lets keep this thread clean.

                              Cheers,
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                              • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                                It is not a good thing to turn this thread into another hate thread or a mud slinging fest like it is usually witnessed in other ownership threads. So i shall request all members both juniors and seniors to kindly refrain from posting anymore messages not relevant to ownership related issues.

                                @ Luke & Mik: I do agree partially with you that at times it indeed becomes annoying to witness a major group of users to talk only about mileage... but please understand that this is India: a mileage obsessed country.. where a major purchase decision regarding a 2 wheeler or a four wheeler is not just based on the price but also related to mileage.. there is no helping it no stopping to it.

                                Xbhp as a community encourages people from all across the globe to come forward to share their experiences and biking condtions/problems etc. prevailing in the respective countries they are residing in so especially for those members who feel that this is India only thread... please keep this in mind PERIOD! kindly refrain from posting instigating messages and lets keep this thread clean.

                                Cheers,
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