Now: isn't that funny that I have to quote myself to rectify the misreading of what I wrote????

I am talking of what YOUR action makes YOU look in the eyes of others!

Now, I am sorry, but I do not accept that accusation of insulting any one here. I warned you, I informed you, I told you about something you guys apparently did not realize, but I did NOT insult you. Would I have, I would have written something like "You ARE cheapos". That would have been an affirmation, and something condemnable, but what I wrote is not!

I was last week and at a big bike gathering with about 200 bikes, including the members of the "FZ Club" to who I asked if they knew the xbhp forum. Most did, although not posting here since they have their own forum on bikervietnam. Also, most Vietnamese are very shy, and would not reply on an English speaking forum if they feel their command of this language is not good enough. Just to say that you are not alone in the World: Internet has no border.

There again, some don't seem to be able to stand being criticized. How should I "be grateful" for being able address these critics still has to be explained....!!??!??!?

I am not of the fleeing king, young man.....although I am here for a last time to clarify things, but am not going to waste my time with who does not want to hear nor understand.

Funny things in your post, then, are:
- If this forum is to be for Indians only, why is it .com and not .in...???
- Also: why is English compulsory???? Isn't your language Hindu???? English is the language of your former rulers, not an Indian language. I believe that, although many local dialects may make some sense to this forum having to be exclusively in English, your country must have found some way to get ONE language understood by all, right?

If this forum is to be for Indians only, the administrators should indicate it clearly, sort of "non allowed to non Indians", or something like that....!

At least! Here is someone with sense!
Sorry, Shv18, and those who think in this line: this will - as far as I am concerned - be my last post deviating from what this thread is supposed to be, but I just could not let this accusation of insulting people be left un-answered!

What does this minority/ majority have to do in this ??? Do you mean a majority has rights upon a minority? Makes me think of some horrors happening in our world, right now....
....and I say it again, and again: I commented on how those obsessed by mileage make the whole of India look. Those are the ones responsible for the bad image they give of their/ your country.

What you do not know is that bikes over 175cc. are not allowed in Vietnam unless one is member of some "police" club (.....) and has got a special license. This license presently costs about 2,500 US Dollars!!! This is well over the price you pay for buying a FZ (in your country: we pay double that!). We just have no choice, hence the whole of your comment falls down.

Anyway: as far as I am concerned, this is the end of it. I shall not post about this anymore, and those who feel they want to reply will please do it through private messages.

You had the right to comment/ reply to my post. I had the right to reply to yours, and that is it.

I would recommend cleaning the chain and lubing it weekly in the wet.
In dry conditions cleaning monthly and lubing will help keep it operating efficiently.

Spray the lubricant on the inner side of the chain and sparingly, as the centrifugal force will push it out and if there is too much eventually all over your mudguard, sprocket guards etc.

If you over lube just take a clean rag and rub it off the chain.

Don't be tempted to use old engine oil, It has suspended metalic particles in it that will cause premature wear and tear on the chain. Think about it, the chain is a moving part, It rubs on metal. Would u put used engine oil back into your bike or cars engine?

whoaa...sure buddy...i dint think abt that!!!.... i kept it so that mud wont splash on to my engine...

...amazing man...!!!




mik....the problem is the throttle response is high.....i mean i dnt know how to explain...... even in the slightest of throttling it gallops like a horse....(bit exaggeration!!)....and when released bikes speed to reduces significantly....!! it wasn't the case before......the gear shift were gud before...now i think i need do give more power in each shift...than i used to give before....

I rode my fz now and the engine roughness didn't occur for the first 30 minutes(Roughly) since i started riding then suddenly the engine roughness issue started but then i had no issue with acceleration it was normal. But there was bad vibration in handle bar & in the tank and it was so uncomfortable to ride.
. Is this related to oil change and chain lube or will there be any problem with the air filter?

To enjoy the maax out of the FFE.. wring the throttle close to the red line on every gear.. your ride would be very rev friendly now.. and just enjoy the moment of the speedo jumping beyond 95 kmph in a matter of seconds.. something it had a tough time dealing with the stock exhaust.

The sound will become smoother once you have covered 2-3000 kms.

Cheers,

Yup as rightly pointed out by our fellow mate your engine is over heating.. immediately get rid of the contraption at the earliest.

I would usually associate engine roughness with engine oil.. which engine oil did they put.. how many kms have you done on your ride.. is it still under the 1000 kms run-in period?? The engine should not feel rough,, however the gears may seem to be a little pain in the A@@ to deal with wrong gears or hard shifts.. not a problem.. will smoothen out once, you cross 2000 kms.

I am not sure about the gears... but i feel you may be putting your right foot on rest on the brake lever unknowingly which is resulting in the brake getting engaged.. As a result the rear drum brake pads are getting rubbed off quite fast if you are not sure.. while riding ask one of your friends to keep an eye on the tail light... if it is glowing quite too often without you engaging brake then that is a problem.. a common rookie mistake done by a lot of noobs. The brake lever needs to be adjusted thats all and you need to train yourself not to put your foot on rest on the brake lever that's all. Make sure you engage 70% front and 30% rear brakes for maximum braking efficiency and not the stupid myth of using only rear brake nonsense commonly followed by a lot of riders. Disc brake lock only happens when the rider doesnot know what he is doing and how much pressure one should apply on the front.


Cheers,

my answers in bold.

Cheers,

Engine roughness

Yes still its under the 1000kms run in period , i have ridden 960kms. I am not too sure about the engine oil that they had put in the yamaha svc centre but in the bill they have specified the name as (Engine oil sl ) and they have charged Rs.266.38 for it. The engine roughness doesn't occur throughout just that it suddenly starts and at times gets resolved on its own during the ride itself and when it occurs there is no issue with acceleration too just that when i increase the throttle the speed increases as well as the vibrations in the handle bar and the tank and the noise that the engine gives out at the time is also weird (something like a very old bike). The chain in the bike has rusted a little bit and its dirty as well.

Once you have hit 1000kms.. go for another servicing and get the engine oil and the oil filter changed as well. Ask them to open up the spark plug and see the condition.. it has to be chocolate brown in colour with shows the correct tuning of the AFR of the carburetor. Ask them to clean the air filter properly with jet air spray and also tighten the engine mount bolts. One of the riders had posted that once he got the the inlet and exhaust valve tappets checked and engine roughness went and the engine was smooth. However, on a new bike, such a case of lose tappets should not occur. If all the above remedies don't work out then opt for getting the tappets to be tightened as per the service manual.

Make sure you try out the Motul Mineral oil 3000V 20W 40 and not the crappy Yamalube. You should see a change in smoothness of the engine. The SVC cannot force you or threaten you that unless you put Yamalube or the oil stock from them, it will void warranty as it is not mentioned in your SVC manual.. as long as you follow the engine oil rating mentioned in your SVC manual, your warranty cannot get void. If they annoy you too much then ask them to write it to you on a letterhead personally and that you will mail this to Yamaha back office immediately to get it verified. They usually try this trick to make you purchase oil from their stock. Personally i don't give two hoots about warranty. If price is no concern, post 3000 kms switch to semi synthetic oil. Motul 15W 50 300V single ester. 300V is one of the best engine oils i have come across and would highly recommend it for performance and longevity.

@All: One correction from my end, Motul is now locally manufacturing Mineral oil and certain semi synthetic oils under the license from Motul, France in Maharasthra, Silvassa if i am geographically correct.

Cheers,

Yes thats what the shopkeeper where I got the oil in bangalore told me. I bought Motul 3000 4T Plus 20W40 oil and checked for the import stamp on the bottle and didn't find any. So I asked him if this is an imported bottle, he said these are "lower quality" oils from Motul (I assume he associates Mineral oil as low quality and SS or FS oils as high quality ) and these are not imported anymore. Instead according to him Motul imports barrels of these and bottles them in India.

Yup.. you are absolutely right!! i would go personally go for the imported stuff though. Not that i am anti-india product .. its just that the distillation process is much better outside and chances of fake products are much lesser which is predominant with brands like Castrol in india.

SS & FS Oil with Ester technology is marketed by Motul india only and imported from France. Same thing with the Motul Chain Lubes and chain cleaner product.

Cheers,

no no....about the starting trouble... electric start too need 2-3 push on the button...like kick....dats wat i m saying.....earlier just one push nd it wud start.....well.... i'll see to the other points which u suggested...thanks...

Yeah I would prefer that too... problem I had last time was I didnt have enough time to go to the Motul showroom. Next time thats the plan.
Its so far from home that you have to dedicate almost an entire morning just to go and get the oil from the showroom. Add to that bangalore traffic

Do you mean that the engine doesn't even crank when u try starting the first few times??
If engine cranks but doesn't start then have you tried pulling the throttle a bit while you crank? If using the throttle starts the engine then its fine. Even I have to use a little throttle to start everytime unless of course I've been riding for a while and the engine has warmed up.

Try cranking the engine while using the throttle. Even then if the engine doesn't start then the AFR might be lean which might also explain your 50+ FE