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  • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
    anybdy from mumbai??.....how is Ganesh enterprises (vikhroli) for servicing ur bike??....do they do their job nicely...??? or do i have to opt for any other service centres?
    Kamla Yamaha is best. don't mind riding few kms and go to the best.

    Shop No. 12, Ground Floor, Shilp Tower
    Junction of PB Marg & NM Joshi Marg, Lower Parel, Mumbai, MH
    022 24328100

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    • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
      buddy initially it was just console lights nd parking light which used to turn off....now when i switch it to left most position i m unable to turn on my headlamps ....sometimes......u sure lubrication will solve the problem??...or is there anythng wrng with the electricals??? also i have a plastic cover like thing which i have put around the switch area also for console. is it advisable.....i believe it should protect the switch frm rains....

      If it's a routine problem then you need to discuss with svc guys. Since it's new bike, they may replace faulty parts

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      • Originally posted by RAK View Post
        Got the carb cleaned as I was facing issues with very low mileage (~31-33 KMPL). Jaykumar was my regular mechanic who handled it swiftly. He also showed some seal in the Carb which was showing signs of aging.

        Rakesh and Jaykumar asked me if my bike was choking and shutting off abruptly. I said that I haven't faced this issue yet. Cost of that seal is 1200 Rs and they said that we can get it replaced later as you are still not facing the issue.
        Finally my bike stalled on Monday & Tuesday. Tried staring up for 15 mins and finally called up Rakesh from Kamla Yamaha. He asked me to come to SVC to get the seal replaced and asked me to tap the carb so that bike will start for now. Took an appointment for Saturday and since Tuesday my bike is just parked and cannot be used. Auto-Rickshaws in Mumbai made me realize in 3 days why I love my bike so much.

        Planning to get the cone set checked tomorrow as getting a thud sound whenever passing through an uneven surface. Lets see how it goes tomorrow.

        Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
        anybdy from mumbai??.....how is Ganesh enterprises (vikhroli) for servicing ur bike??....do they do their job nicely...??? or do i have to opt for any other service centres?
        Don't even try Ganesh enterprises. That guy is a cheat and will just try to fool you. Kamla Yamaha is the best one in Mumbai.

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        • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
          anybdy from mumbai??.....how is Ganesh enterprises (vikhroli) for servicing ur bike??....do they do their job nicely...??? or do i have to opt for any other service centres?
          I have been harping about the quality top notch job done by Kamla Yamaha, Lower Parel, Opp. Phoenix Mills, Sun Mill Compound since ages here. The staff is very prompt and the SVC head mech, Rakesh is very very efficient and keeps other mechanics on a tight schedule.

          You will have to take an appointment from the SVC staff in advance and if you are going for a servicing or major parts replacement ask for Mr. Imitiaz and check on the stocks availability. If it is not available, you can purchase the required part from any of the genuine Yamaha Parts shop or SVC in Mumbai and bring it there and get it installed. Kamla Yamaha is currently in the process of shifting their base from Lower Parel to Shivdi may be post Monsoons. So they have slowly halted keeping a stock of some parts which usually don't create a problem during regular servicing of the bike.

          If you just want to go there and get the switch gears checked.. i suggest first try the WD 40 spray on the switch gears and even after 2 days if you still don't get results then visit the SVC. I believe, they will also follow the same procedure to get any rusts removed.

          WD 40/ Zorrik 88 are easily available at any car accessories and spare parts shop all across Mumbai. These sprays remove rust and will get rid of the trouble.. costs around 60-70 bucks INR.

          Cheers,
          Last edited by shv18; 08-17-2012, 03:52 PM.
          A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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          • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
            Hi Nice to hear what's happening to you. I'd like to ask you a question. What do you think if I change only the 180 cc big bore kit and ride her with stock exhaust? Will I get any difference in speed, I mean the top-speed?
            Nope, the stock mid ship muffler creates a lot of resistance.. when you plonk in a 180cc big bore block.. the waste gases generated will be significantly higher.. so other way round the power will diminish due to so much backpressure. If you are keen on jumping on the hot rodding scene then i would suggest start with the FFE.. see the difference in performance and be a judge by yourself and then go for rest of the kits.


            Cheers,
            Last edited by shv18; 08-17-2012, 03:54 PM.
            A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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            • Originally posted by RAK View Post
              Finally my bike stalled on Monday & Tuesday. Tried staring up for 15 mins and finally called up Rakesh from Kamla Yamaha. He asked me to come to SVC to get the seal replaced and asked me to tap the carb so that bike will start for now. Took an appointment for Saturday and since Tuesday my bike is just parked and cannot be used. Auto-Rickshaws in Mumbai made me realize in 3 days why I love my bike so much.

              Planning to get the cone set checked tomorrow as getting a thud sound whenever passing through an uneven surface. Lets see how it goes tomorrow.
              Would recommend that you get your tank cleaned once as well and then start using System G on two full tanks. Most likely i feel water might have seeped in the tank thanks to monsoons.

              If you are getting the front shocks checked then i would recommend checking the availability of the rubber seals with Imtiaz first. They cost around 280-300 bucks INR if i remember correctly. If your ride has already done more than 15,000 kms on the seals since, last change then i would highly suggest that you should get the front shock oil and seals replaced regardless.. Mumbai weather is a major culprit which accelerates the oxidising of the fork oil and also making the fork seal rubber hard. If you notice black deposits of dust and oily sticky material on the front fork then the seals have become very weak and will start leaking soon. Kamla Yamaha should have Motul Fork oil in Stock.

              ask them to grease and tightened the coneset as well.

              Cheers,
              Last edited by shv18; 08-17-2012, 04:32 PM.
              A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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              • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                I have been harping about the quality top notch job done by Kamla Yamaha, Lower Parel, Opp. Phoenix Mills, Sun Mill Compound since ages here. The staff is very prompt and the SVC head mech, Rakesh is very very efficient and keeps other mechanics on a tight schedule.

                You will have to take an appointment from the SVC staff in advance and if you are going for a servicing or major parts replacement ask for Mr. Imitiaz and check on the stocks availability. If it is not available, you can purchase the required part from any of the genuine Yamaha Parts shop or SVC in Mumbai and bring it there and get it installed. Kamla Yamaha is currently in the process of shifting their base from Lower Parel to Shivdi may be post Monsoons. So they have slowly halted keeping a stock of some parts which usually don't create a problem during regular servicing of the bike.

                If you just want to go there and get the switch gears checked.. i suggest first try the WD 40 spray first and even after 2 days, you still don't get results then visit the SVC. I believe, they will also follow the same procedure to get any rusts removed.

                WD 40/ Zorrik 88 are easily available at any car accessories and spare parts shop all across Mumbai. These sprays remove rust and will get rid of the trouble.. costs around 60-70 bucks INR.

                Cheers,

                so Kamala Yamaha it is......

                buddy m not just going for those switch thing....my bike's 1st servicing is due AUG 14.....so will be going for that..........just now took an appointment with them...but asked me to come on monday .... but will i b able to see wat they r doing???......it will be my bike's first servicing so wat will be approx charge to be beared by me?

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                • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
                  so Kamala Yamaha it is......

                  buddy m not just going for those switch thing....my bike's 1st servicing is due AUG 14.....so will be going for that..........just now took an appointment with them...but asked me to come on monday .... but will i b able to see wat they r doing???......it will be my bike's first servicing so wat will be approx charge to be beared by me?
                  I don't think they will allow that.. you will slowly have to build a rapport with the boys over there after that they may allow you to stay near the bike. Since, it is first service, they will not charge you any labour fees but all consumables are chargeable as mentioned on your service book as well.

                  They will charge you for engine oil, Oil Filter and chain lubing if you opt for it:

                  My Calculations:

                  1) Engine Oil: Go only and only for Motul 3000V mineral 20W 40. Call the SVC again and request Mr. Imtiaz to organise the stock if they don't have Motul.: Costs around 270-300 INR. If you want to go for Semi synthetic oil (bit expensive) then again check with Mr. Imtiaz on Motul's availability.. Motul 300 V 15W 50 single ester (Semi Synth) Price: around 450 - 550 INR.
                  2) Oil Filter: 50 INR
                  3) Chain Lubing: 100 INR
                  Plus taxes, VAT etc.

                  i would recommend insist on getting the battery terminals checked and then greased with lithium grease since, they don't have petroleum jelly in stock. The stock acid batteries on FZ have a tendency to eat up the terminal connecting screws and bolt and also generate a significant amount of carbon, sulphur deposit on it resulting in loose connection and the bike inadvertently not getting enough power to crank. Has happened to me so would recommend doing that without fail. The screws and bolts will costs you around 10 bucks INR more that's all.

                  On Monday, reach the SVC at 9:45 a.m. sharp without fail if you want your bike returned to you at the earliest. Do mention that you are from xbhp to Rakesh.

                  Cheers,
                  Last edited by shv18; 08-17-2012, 04:34 PM.
                  A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                  • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                    Nope, the stock mid ship muffler creates a lot of resistance.. when you plonk in a 180cc big bore block.. the waste gases generated will be significantly higher.. so other way round the power will diminish due to so much backpressure. If you are keen on jumping on the hot rodding scene then i would suggest start with the FFE.. see the difference in performance and be a judge by yourself and then go for rest of the kits.


                    Cheers,
                    Hello Shv, What would be the cost of whole FFE and 180cc bore kit excluding labour charges. And what will be the labour cost for doing this job outside. And also I understand that when we do these modifications, we'll lose the warranty. And will the warranty be void for the whole bike or just engine?

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                    • First impressions after first service.

                      Just got my bike back after first service from Orion Motors, Bangalore.

                      Bike was given for service yesterday 36days after purchase. Odo reading: 1133KM.

                      Changed engine oil to Motul 3000 4T Plus 20W40.

                      First Impressions after service: Engine feels smoother and a little easier on revving. Gear shifts are smoother too but still get stuck sometimes.
                      Maybe I've to purchase another bottle of Motul and top up the oil since I only gave them a 1L bottle and the manual says we need 1.1L if we are replacing the oil filter as well.

                      The clutch switch problem which caused the bike to start even when in gear and clutch released appears to have been sorted out.

                      Front brake seems to have lost some of its bite. Took the bike out for a test ride after delivery and then told the SVC guys abt this. They said they have cleaned the calipers with diesel and it will be back to normal in a few days.

                      Overall not extremely happy nor disappointed.

                      Regarding service of Orion Motors,

                      The sales was excellent but the service left something to be desired. They were not rude but they weren't exactly friendly either. They never had time to discuss the problems of each customer. They just ask the customer to list down the problem and they write them down on the job card.
                      Although cant blame them considering they get about 35 bikes for service everyday.
                      After servicing my bike was left outside gathering dust in the hot sun unlocked!!

                      When I took it I asked the security guard why do they leave the bikes like this and he says there is not enough space. Anyway he gets me a cloth and dusts the bike off and then lets me have it.
                      Maybe these guys should learn a thing or two from some of our local mechanics.
                      Your pair of feet can tire you... Your pair of wheels can never tire you...

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                      • Originally posted by arijitmaniac View Post
                        Just got my bike back after first service from Orion Motors, Bangalore.

                        Bike was given for service yesterday 36days after purchase. Odo reading: 1133KM.

                        Changed engine oil to Motul 3000 4T Plus 20W40.

                        First Impressions after service: Engine feels smoother and a little easier on revving. Gear shifts are smoother too but still get stuck sometimes.
                        Maybe I've to purchase another bottle of Motul and top up the oil since I only gave them a 1L bottle and the manual says we need 1.1L if we are replacing the oil filter as well.

                        The clutch switch problem which caused the bike to start even when in gear and clutch released appears to have been sorted out.

                        Front brake seems to have lost some of its bite. Took the bike out for a test ride after delivery and then told the SVC guys abt this. They said they have cleaned the calipers with diesel and it will be back to normal in a few days.

                        Overall not extremely happy nor disappointed.

                        Regarding service of Orion Motors,

                        The sales was excellent but the service left something to be desired. They were not rude but they weren't exactly friendly either. They never had time to discuss the problems of each customer. They just ask the customer to list down the problem and they write them down on the job card.
                        Although cant blame them considering they get about 35 bikes for service everyday.
                        After servicing my bike was left outside gathering dust in the hot sun unlocked!!

                        When I took it I asked the security guard why do they leave the bikes like this and he says there is not enough space. Anyway he gets me a cloth and dusts the bike off and then lets me have it.
                        Maybe these guys should learn a thing or two from some of our local mechanics.

                        Dear it's India. Everywhere it's like that. new vehicles are left to rust in hot sun and rain till the buyer owns it. Feels very sad on them but what to do? it's India. Nobody wants to care and even Yamaha. All want to make money. With the new Yamaha scooter going to get launched, I don't know how they will accomodate more place for scooters and also manage the service.

                        The service personnel attitude will be just like that because they don't have time. Very less space, very less parts available on stock, very few service personnel on duty and too many bikes daily thronging on with different problems.

                        If they were really honest and check exactly each thing as according to the manual then it wouldn't have any loss for us even if we would have paid for each free service. Unfortunately that does not happen in India because we are Indians we always like short-cuts.

                        I was after them from two weeks to get my speedometer sensor replaced and if I'd believed these service guys then surely it would have taken ages. Two days before they kept my bike for whole day and just sent it back saying that they cleaned the sensor. I shot few email to different address of yamaha customer care and lo a call came this morning to take the bike to the svc and the svc guys welcome me very dearly and they changed the sensor in just 10 mins and yesterday they were fooling me that it takes few hours to change the sensor and they don't have sensor in stalk, call on monday and I'll check blah blah, hahhaha. That's why I say in our country only crying child gets milk.
                        Last edited by jonahmano; 08-17-2012, 05:04 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by jonahmano View Post
                          Hello Shv, What would be the cost of whole FFE and 180cc bore kit excluding labour charges. And what will be the labour cost for doing this job outside. And also I understand that when we do these modifications, we'll lose the warranty. And will the warranty be void for the whole bike or just engine?
                          Well before you raised that question you should have read the manual thoroughly... it is clearly mentioned that any modifications electronic or mechanical in nature will lead to warranty void which is not partial but for the whole bike.

                          the good thing is.. since the engine big bore and the stock engine block looks alike, the svc guys cannot make out the difference without opening up the engine which will not happen unless your engine starts developing any problem (highly unlikely). So as long as you don't tell them willingly.. they won't come to know .


                          for the big bore installation, the head of the engine has to be ported.You will have to send the head to Joel and after porting he will ship it back to you. the shipping charges will have to be borne by you.

                          out of the whole kit.. only the semi flat carburetor and the FFE are the visible mods. If you are getting it done from outside.. then go to a guy/a mechanic who knows how to work on a 4 stroke engine and has a knowledge of opening up and re-assembling an engine properly with correct tools and measuring instruments.

                          As i have already mentioned in my earlier posts .. correct installation is crucial as the tolerences are very tight. Joel will not take the responsibility if your engine ceases due to faulty installation of parts. Then later please don't start a hate thread!

                          If you are going for the whole kit then i would recommend go to the source i.e. Joel. Keep 3 - 4 days in hand considering electricity cuts and stuff. after the work is done.. do atleast a 50-100 km test ride of the bike and only then leave for home. if you have any tuning issues post installation that can be ironed out by Joel right there itself. His mechanic team is lightning fast in dismantling and assembling engines. I have seen his guys dismantling an R15 engine to bare bones in 20 mins flat!! They have opened up more than 300-400 engine till now so their work is good.

                          If you are only ordering the FFE.. that can installed by any roadside mechanic.

                          For pricing details please contact Joel, RC: [email protected]

                          Cheers,
                          Last edited by shv18; 08-17-2012, 05:12 PM.
                          A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                          • Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                            I don't think they will allow that.. you will slowly have to build a rapport with the boys over there after that they may allow you to stay near the bike. Since, it is first service, they will not charge you any labour fees but all consumables are chargeable as mentioned on your service book as well.

                            They will charge you for engine oil, Oil Filter and chain lubing if you opt for it:

                            My Calculations:

                            1) Engine Oil: Go only and only for Motul 3000V mineral 20W 40. Call the SVC again and request Mr. Imtiaz to organise the stock if they don't have Motul.: Costs around 270-300 INR. If you want to go for Semi synthetic oil (bit expensive) then again check with Mr. Imtiaz on Motul's availability.. Motul 300 V 15W 50 single ester (Semi Synth) Price: around 450 - 550 INR.
                            2) Oil Filter: 50 INR
                            3) Chain Lubing: 100 INR
                            Plus taxes, VAT etc.

                            i would recommend insist on getting the battery terminals checked and then greased with lithium grease since, they don't have petroleum jelly in stock. The stock acid batteries on FZ have a tendency to eat up the terminal connecting screws and bolt and also generate a significant amount of carbon, sulphur deposit on it resulting in loose connection and the bike inadvertently not getting enough power to crank. Has happened to me so would recommend doing that without fail. The screws and bolts will costs you around 10 bucks INR more that's all.

                            On Monday, reach the SVC at 9:45 a.m. sharp without fail if you want your bike returned to you at the earliest. Do mention that you are from xbhp to Rakesh.

                            Cheers,

                            .....MAN .....u r actually a life saver........a legend to be precise..... thank you

                            also i called him... Mr. Imtiaz.....i asked for the particular motul oil u mentioned...but he sed he has Yamaha's proprietry oil....whic is also Motul 20W40.....i believe it would be enough...rite???
                            Last edited by vimal_hbk; 08-17-2012, 05:28 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by vimal_hbk View Post
                              .....MAN .....u r actually a life saver........a legend to be precise..... thank you

                              also i called him... Mr. Imtiaz.....i asked for the particular motul oil u mentioned...but he sed he has Yamaha's proprietry oil....whic is also Motul 20W40.....i believe it would be enough...rite???
                              Nope.. ask him to get Motul only. If he cannot then tell him you will organise it.. insist that you want to see Motul engine oils only. Some batches were manufactured locally under Motul's supervision not anymore.

                              If he says he is ok with you sourcing out Motul (highly unlikely) then call Mr. Arun, Rane/Rani Private Ltd., Motul retailer. The shop is at Opera House, near Marine drive. He is a genuine Motul retailer and a nice gentleman. Mob No.: +919820687073. Shop is open till 5:30/6:00 p.m. i think.

                              Cheers,
                              Last edited by shv18; 08-17-2012, 05:50 PM.
                              A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                              • Originally posted by arijitmaniac View Post
                                Just got my bike back after first service from Orion Motors, Bangalore.

                                Bike was given for service yesterday 36days after purchase. Odo reading: 1133KM.

                                Changed engine oil to Motul 3000 4T Plus 20W40.

                                First Impressions after service: Engine feels smoother and a little easier on revving. Gear shifts are smoother too but still get stuck sometimes.
                                It is normal, the gears will smoothen out by the next service once the tolerences of the metal parts get set to the correct level. If they get stuck in between, release the clutch completely while in motion and then re-engage the clutch and then try shifting gears.. you will notice then the gears enage easily.

                                Maybe I've to purchase another bottle of Motul and top up the oil since I only gave them a 1L bottle and the manual says we need 1.1L if we are replacing the oil filter as well.
                                Not exactly necessary.. if the engine oil level is in between max-min level then it is fine. otherwise then you will have to top it up with same engine oil.

                                The clutch switch problem which caused the bike to start even when in gear and clutch released appears to have been sorted out.

                                Front brake seems to have lost some of its bite. Took the bike out for a test ride after delivery and then told the SVC guys abt this. They said they have cleaned the calipers with diesel and it will be back to normal in a few days.
                                I am not sure why did they use diesel at the first place.. dangerous and not recommended at all. Immediately if you can try a local remedy; On the disk brake and the caliper apply liberally soap or mild detergent based water and then wash it off. A simple pressure wash would have sufficed. Never let them wash the disk brakes with diesel ever again!!
                                My views in Bold

                                Cheers,
                                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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