Re: Honda CBR 250R

1. Please tighten T-Stem nut & along with it, grease up the coneset bearings as well
2. If it doesn't help, please replace the coneset per your ASC says
Pls let us know if the issue still persists even after trying 1 & 2

Ok, whenever possible, I'll keep posted & we can meet up. There's a lot of information on this thread as well as in owners manual. Meanwhile, please go through them & you'll get fair amount of knowledge.

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Okay so I posted this problem before.
I hear a clinking (metal on metal) sound often when I go over bumps on the road. It feels like it originates from the chain. People on xbhp suggested that the chain might be lose. Accordingly I went to a mechanic and he did say the chain was loose so got it tightened. After tightening the sound occurred less often but I did notice it. When I asked him about it he suggested lubing the chain will make it go away. So next I lubed it with Motul Chain Lube. However the sound still persists. Do I need to go to the ASC and shell out the bucks or is there a DIY?

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Check the chain slider, replace if worn.

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Check the chain slider, replace if worn.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Though fellow Bhpians have added color to your post. A radiator in itself is a solid unit, and coolant leak from the core can happen only if there is a significant damage to the radiator fins and core. Possible causes might include, high pressure water jet on the radiator or the radiator fiddled with intentionally or striked upon with a sharp object. The CBR 250s radiator fins are comparatively softer and susceptible to bent fins. Make sure your new radiator is free from bends and nicks and what not. Take extra care when you take your bike for water wash, and make sure the pressurized water is not directed towards the radiator directly, this causes bent fins, and repeated pressure washing on radiator weakens the fins and eventually they give up. Stones aren't to be ruled out, but that shouldn't be of much issue as the throw is very negligible.

Two reasons, when you hear a thud, or khat when going over a speed breaker or when using the front brake, your coneset might be faulty or the triple clamp might be on the tighter side. If it's a new motorcycle, check the stem nut, for the tightness and adjust/loosen accordingly. If it persists even after, your coneset has to be replaced accordingly.

CBR 250R is a beautiful motorcycle. Period. Considering two up it's an excellent mile muncher. I'm afraid I don't have an apples to apples comparison vis-a-vis the D200 and CBR250. But my ownership experience can be compared with the Duke 390, as I currently do own both of them, and not only is the CBR is super rock steady on highway rides, it's almost comparatively smoother for a garnish free ride experience.

Though the engine requires frequent gearshifts in city/traffic commutes, once you hit the rev band past 5k it's a different motor altogether, and from my experience it's one of the smoothest I've ridden. Case in point, in more than two occasions I've cranked the starter motor when actually the engine was idling, in heavy traffic thinking I stalled the engine. Though my experience with different motorcycles are limited, but from that experience I've garnered from the motorcycles I've ridden, the CBR250R is a very fun motorcycle on the highway. I use 390 exclusively for twisties, its a crazy revving motor and the ease and nimbleness the Duke series offers are in my humble opinion not matched with any current motorcycle offerings from any brand here in India.

Just a few pointers when you compare the Duke series and CBR

Duke 200
Very good handling, and peppy motor.
Torquey motor, less fiddling with gear changes
Cheaper than the CBR250R
Riding position might not appeal to some guys, but that's how it is.
Light weight, meaning it flicks at your thought
Revs to moons, and excellent power to weight ratio and packs a punch for a 25HP engine.
Looks (again subjective)

Cons:
Equipment quality not that great
Naked, meaning more wind blast
Pillion seat might not be that appealing to some
Again exposed components/peripherals might not be appealing to the savvy rider.
Riding position is a tricky proposition, as some love it and some don't



CBR250R

Refined motor.
High revving engine.
Pillion comfort and riding dynamics are of the right blend
Faired meaning less wind blast
Excellent mile muncher, especially two up, it's lots of fun.
Engine loves to be revved
Beautiful ABS system and Nissin brake system. With combined ABS, (saving my arse already) (I'd personally suggest to go for ABS one)
By far the best cooling system on a 250CC engine. So effective that no matter what's outside, the temp bar never exceeds 3 bars. Beautiful stuff, IMHO
Excellent ride dynamics, big bike feel factor

Cons
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Heavy at 165 KS it ain't a light weight bike.
Spares are very costly compared to the Duke
For the price the motorcycle is costly with minimum power (competitors win on this part hands down)
Contigo tyres doesn't have a single fan, when it comes to CBR users, all of them diss this tire. They come with MRF and Contigo, MRF is a good option.
Forward biased riding position, some love it, some don't, but that's how it is.

But these are just my personal observations with respect to the Duke 200 and CBR250R, I have a very limited experience with the Duke 200 less than 200 KMS I can say, but I can say it's a hoot of a motorcycle. The CBR is a calm and composed motorcycle, it does everything, and in style and with a composed attitude.

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION]. True that the radiator is fragile. I saw a mod in this thread where there was a mudflap added to the front fender by drilling two holes on it, adding a TVS mudflap for a moped and tightening with screws. I have used the same method on my bullet, but the problem right now is that i'm using radial tires, and the clearance between the front fender and tire will probably be just about 7-8mm. I have contemplated placing the screws in such a way that the heads will be facing the tire and the locking nuts facing the radiator so as to prevent the screws from scraping the tire. You might say, once bitten twice shy! I ride in varying conditions ranging from horrible sandy roads(read red sand/tiny pebbles) to sweet laid tarmac, with occasional rains as well, and i really dont want to screw the radiator again! In your opinion, do you think this would be advisable?

Thanks!
Jon

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Thanks [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION]. True that the radiator is fragile. I saw a mod in this thread where there was a mudflap added to the front fender by drilling two holes on it, adding a TVS mudflap for a moped and tightening with screws. I have used the same method on my bullet, but the problem right now is that i'm using radial tires, and the clearance between the front fender and tire will probably be just about 7-8mm. I have contemplated placing the screws in such a way that the heads will be facing the tire and the locking nuts facing the radiator so as to prevent the screws from scraping the tire. You might say, once bitten twice shy! I ride in varying conditions ranging from horrible sandy roads(read red sand/tiny pebbles) to sweet laid tarmac, with occasional rains as well, and i really dont want to screw the radiator again! In your opinion, do you think this would be advisable?

Thanks!
Jon

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Why not! I'd say it's a cheap fix, especially when you consider the ridiculously priced CBR250R's radiator guard. It reminds me of my earlier post, wherein I've mentioned why installing a radiator guard on a CBR250R isn't a great proposition. The fins being malleable, I wouldn't suggest a radiator guard, being visible means two advantages, you can inspect them visually to inspect for anything unduly, bent fins, second the radiator itself can be cleaned. Crud and grime over time, clog the fins leading to poor cooling efficiency, and this becomes a herculean task if the radiator guard is installed, each and every time to undo and redo the guard. That should give you a ball park.

Secondly price, I've already had this option in my mind, but when you weigh the relative advantages vs disadvantages, it's the latter that weighs in more. These are my personal summation, so discretion advised.

Coming to guard flappers, don'g for for hex bolts, try using shorter Philips screws with a thicker diameter, so that way it's clean, and doesn't pop up as an eye sore.

Cheers!
VJ

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Thanks B7ACKTHORN for a very quick yet comprehensive comparison. I am personally quite inclined towards the Honda except that there is a niggling fear that the model might get withdrawn pretty soon. I can see a few tell tale signs already. Pricey. Low sales volume for long. Competition is beating it hollow with lower priced products and more are to follow. I have owned the Esteem for a long time after it was discontinued. Finding parts becomes increasingly difficult from 5 years after the discontinuation. And if there aren't too many machines in your city (I doubt if Calcutta has many), dealerships don't stock spares. However, I trust the Honda brand a lot. I would invite your opinion on this possibility. I am happy if I can keep it hassle free for five years. Doesn't seem like a tall order, even if it is discontinued tomorrow. Does it?

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Sweet! I'll put up a few pics as i get this done so it might be helpful for others as well. Yes, i've considered the radiator guard too, to protect the radiator from small stones picked up by the front tire(my tire actually does pick up small - medium stones off the road! I'm using the Michelin Pilot Street radial version and have had stones flung to cars or vehicles on either side), but then again, as you've stated this does pose a problem for routine maintenance checks and cleaning as well, and i don't know if it might have any effect on the cooling aspect as it might restrict the airflow. The mudflap appeals to me as the best jugaad now!

Worst part, it's actually raining here now, and i'm just imagining the slush waiting to get collected on the radiator, and i wince! I'll post the pictures up this week! Thanks [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] !

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Hi [MENTION=73762]Calcuttan[/MENTION] I understand your predicament, and yes, the sales has gone down for the CBR 250. You might want to wait for the CBR 300 which would probably hit indian shores this year. It's got extra power, and i'm guessing it wont go out of production for atleast the next 5 years. Looking at the model, it does seem like it's built on the lines of the 250, but with a bigger heart and a true CBR based fairing. I've read through a couple of good reviews from Indonesia and Canada.


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Hi [MENTION=73762]Calcuttan[/MENTION] I understand your predicament, and yes, the sales has gone down for the CBR 250. You might want to wait for the CBR 300 which would probably hit indian shores this year. It's got extra power, and i'm guessing it wont go out of production for atleast the next 5 years. Looking at the model, it does seem like it's built on the lines of the 250, but with a bigger heart and a true CBR based fairing. I've read through a couple of good reviews from Indonesia and Canada.

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As I reiterated earlier, with the current Indian motorcycling scene going topsy-turvy, it's been a while since the Blade was de-throned, it's just the brand value that still is lingering among its loyal customers. I personally was holding back my purchase in hopes that Honda would launch a facelifted or the updated CBR. The CBR was in my mind long back, the moment I saw it in the Metro section on the Hindu yesteryear. While I clearly understood the pros and cons of the CBR, deep inside, my heart always lingered for the Blade, it's not that it was powerful or not powerful, I just loved the bike, for the way it was. With just a few ponies bump from the 220, what swept me over my feet was the way the bike handled itself, it was super-composed. Apart from the pathetic gearing ratios which is a pain in the arse for city riding, it's no wonder called the apt sports tourer, take it to highway and I soliloquy almost most of the times to myself, smiling, admiring the bike (just biker things). Spares are costly yes, I had to wait for a week to get my oil filter, whereas in metro like Chennai and Blore it's almost ready at their disposal, so the place you're at depends how fast service gets done on your motorcycle. (And I'd personally like to thank Krishna Prasad baba for getting me the oil filter, since I couldn't source it here in Ooty)

The CBR300 is just an overbore of the existing of 250R so that aside, there shouldn't be that much of a spec difference for both the motorcycles, when it comes to componentry sharing. But I am still waiting for the day Honda would wake up from their slumber. No cattle-prod would work for Honda.

I've never ever felt I made the wrong decision getting the CBR, and for now I don't know how long she'll last, but with the current status quo, I am pretty much sure she can overcome World War III



In fact it's not the big pebbles but it's the smaller ones that does the damage, with the velocity with which they're thrown at. The tire picks up very fine stones and in fact I got my first hit during riding over a freshly laid road, with we colloquially call (fine jalli) stones bombarding underneath the motorcycle, I was just hoping and praying for it to not hit the radiator and came back home and voila, very small bend, larboard. But I was able to mend it back with a small needle.

Keep us posted on the results.

Cheers!
VJ

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True to the WORD [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] ! I've been a bulleteer for the past 12 years. The bullet always kept me vibrating in my seat, thanks to the massage chair that RE put in the bike ! I did and will always love to ride a bullet! When i first saw the CBR, the looks just blew me flat on my back, not many people like the VFR'ish faining, but i just love it! And moving from an engine that rattles the bones, to a quiet, sedate and exquisitely smooth engine is just amazing! Even compared to the 390, I still personally prefer the CBR, because, there's no way i could use all 44 horses on any road, atleast in South India. In more ways than one, the power of the baby blade has been a blessing in disguise, it's not too much to overwhelm you, but is just the right amount to get you places. Just my two cents...

Yep, i'll keep this thread updated on the mod!

Thanks
Jon

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True to the WORD [MENTION=39214]B7ACKTHORN[/MENTION] ! I've been a bulleteer for the past 12 years. The bullet always kept me vibrating in my seat, thanks to the massage chair that RE put in the bike ! I did and will always love to ride a bullet! When i first saw the CBR, the looks just blew me flat on my back, not many people like the VFR'ish faining, but i just love it! And moving from an engine that rattles the bones, to a quiet, sedate and exquisitely smooth engine is just amazing! Even compared to the 390, I still personally prefer the CBR, because, there's no way i could use all 44 horses on any road, atleast in South India. In more ways than one, the power of the baby blade has been a blessing in disguise, it's not too much to overwhelm you, but is just the right amount to get you places. Just my two cents...

Yep, i'll keep this thread updated on the mod!

Thanks
Jon

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My CBR is in need of a rear brake pad replacement, but when checked with 3 dealers they had no stock, and one of them said that since its the start of a new financial year most of the dealer will place the orders with a delay to get current year spare.

I don't want to believe that completely but it looks like the case with many dealer at this point of time. And when asked about the timeline of availability he said no idea .

I will be approaching a new dealer today, if am not getting a rear brake pad, I thought of getting p220 rear pad for now as mine is nearly worn out. So anything I need to keep in mind while replacing it with p220's rear pads??

And recently I feel the engine vibrating more than usual during riding and in idle. So can some one confirm me if my air filter is due for replacement?? Below is my air filters condition

Apologies: I am unable to attach my pictures currently.

Ram Kumar

Sent from my C1904

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My CBR is about to complete 11000kms
Going in for a proper service tomorrow to Vihaan Honda

Changed the rear tire last week as the contigo side wall developed had a 4inch tear , bought a Michelin Pilot Sport, set me back by 3100/- .

Just curiosity how many CBR owners here from Mumbai .?






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Please...tell him that a RED C250R owner from Chennai gives him regards.

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You too seem to have had a good experience with Abdul too, Aargee![emoji106]

Do speak to Mr Bobby too. He's the works manager there and a helpful guy too.

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I am mate. Completed 1000 today. Its at the service center for chain problems!