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  • #24856
    Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
    I took the bike to the Honda ASC n they told me that fuel filter had to be replaced. Cost would be around 17,000 Rs. But the mechanic suggested me to show to local mechanic as fuel filter can be repaired. He also said that here in ASC they would only replace, there would be no repair at all.
    So I gave it to my local mechanic whom I know very well. Let's see what happens next.
    BTW I've replaced Air filter once at 24k kms. But fuel filter has never been replaced yet.
    17,000 for fuel filter eh
    Fuel pump costs that much, not fuel filter. Fuel filter is 250 odd rupees and is below the fuel tank. Replace that first, and see if it helps. Fuel pump has a small felt filter inside which again can be cleaned for which the fuel tank has to be removed and then the fuel pump inside. Replace your air filter too.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


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    • #24857
      Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
      17,000 for fuel filter eh
      Fuel pump costs that much, not fuel filter. Fuel filter is 250 odd rupees and is below the fuel tank. Replace that first, and see if it helps. Fuel pump has a small felt filter inside which again can be cleaned for which the fuel tank has to be removed and then the fuel pump inside. Replace your air filter too.

      Cheers!
      VJ
      Ohh sorry I mean to say I was suggested to replace fuel pump.
      But does fuel pump need to be replaced in 41,000 kms ? The bike is serviced properly n mostly used by me.

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      • #24858
        Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
        Ohh sorry I mean to say I was suggested to replace fuel pump.
        But does fuel pump need to be replaced in 41,000 kms ? The bike is serviced properly n mostly used by me.
        Not really. Fuel pump lasts life long and they're pretty much reliable. Don't replace the pump. Replace the consumables first, and see if it helps. As I said air filter, fuel filter, and clean the fuel tank if you have to.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
        The girl said, 'NO!'


        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


        THE END

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        • #24859
          Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
          Ohh sorry I mean to say I was suggested to replace fuel pump.
          But does fuel pump need to be replaced in 41,000 kms ? The bike is serviced properly n mostly used by me.
          Did you try the starting method given in manual in case of engine flooding?

          Pull the the throttle to max, cranck for 5 seconds, release throttle. Repeat the same process until it starts. Don't crank continuously for more than 5 seconds. Try it. It may help.
          Last edited by arvstreetracer; 02-06-2020, 01:17 PM.
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          • #24860
            Re: Honda CBR 250R

            I usually need to do this when I do not start the bike for more than 3 days
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            • #24861
              Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              Not really. Fuel pump lasts life long and they're pretty much reliable. Don't replace the pump. Replace the consumables first, and see if it helps. As I said air filter, fuel filter, and clean the fuel tank if you have to.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              I've given the bike to my trustable local mechanic. Let's see his conclusion. Then I would suggest him to replace fuel filter (I've feeling that this may be the culprit) & air filter.
              I was bit worried at first as 17k expense just at 41,000 kms. But I guess Honda SC mechanic was exaggerating the problem.
              Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post
              Did you try the starting method given in manual in case of engine flooding?

              Pull the the throttle to max, cranck for 5 seconds, release throttle. Repeat the same process until it starts. Don't crank continuously for more than 5 seconds. Try it. It may help.
              I should have read manual properly. I didn't try this method. Thanks for sharing.

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              • #24862
                Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                Ohh sorry I mean to say I was suggested to replace fuel pump.
                But does fuel pump need to be replaced in 41,000 kms ? The bike is serviced properly n mostly used by me.
                Does the fuel pump prime when you switch on the ignition ?
                Like Mentioned here already fuel pumps don't just fail on bike that have been maintained well and serviced regularly, unless you have run the bike dry out fuel by chance repeatedly or dirty fuel. If both are not the case its worth chasing the issue a bit more in details before changing the fuel pump.

                Cheers
                Ride Safe
                Krishna
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                Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                P                ulsar 220F                |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                • #24863
                  Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                  I took the bike to the Honda ASC n they told me that fuel filter had to be replaced. Cost would be around 17,000 Rs. But the mechanic suggested me to show to local mechanic as fuel filter can be repaired. He also said that here in ASC they would only replace, there would be no repair at all.
                  So I gave it to my local mechanic whom I know very well. Let's see what happens next.
                  BTW I've replaced Air filter once at 24k kms. But fuel filter has never been replaced yet.
                  Empty your fuel tank and fill it with 99 or 97 octane fuel n see, change the fan and fuel pump relay as well.

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                  • #24864
                    Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Hey guys, have doubt. Is there a difference between the stock CBR and repsols version CBR ecu? One guy says the normal CBR Is restricted to 164kmph , and repsol version 170kmph?

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                    • #24865
                      Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                      Hey guys, have doubt. Is there a difference between the stock CBR and repsols version CBR ecu? One guy says the normal CBR Is restricted to 164kmph , and repsol version 170kmph?
                      Ofcourse, the Repsol stickers alone adds 5bhp and we all know orange coloured bikes are faster.
                      Jokes apart, Nothing of that sort . The 2013 onwards models had a different ecu with about 1bhp increase in them so pre 2013 models where 25bhp post 2013 were 26bhp, but in real world scenarios it made no difference at all.

                      Cheers
                      Ride Safe
                      Krishna
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                      Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                      P                      ulsar 220F                      |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                      • #24866
                        Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                        So my bike isn't starring.
                        After starting the ignition, everything looks normal. The neutral indicator, ABS light work perfectly. Even horn, Upper-dipper light work perfectly .
                        But bike refuses to start, it takes the spark but engine doesn't start. Bike will almost reach 41,000 kms soon. Don't know but I'm expecting fuel pump problem.
                        The same thing happening as in below video.
                        https://youtu.be/JZvkNwKVito
                        UPDATE
                        So mechanic said that the fuel pump had fault but it could be repaired. A motor needed to be replaced n fuel pump would start. It would cost around 4500 rs.

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                        • #24867
                          Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                          UPDATE
                          So mechanic said that the fuel pump had fault but it could be repaired. A motor needed to be replaced n fuel pump would start. It would cost around 4500 rs.
                          If you have the habit of running bike with less petrol in tank say about 2 liters then it can cause failure of Fuel pump. The fuel is the medium that cools the fuel pump and so the pump needs to be immersed in Petrol all the time .
                          Good luck
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                          • #24868
                            Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by psr View Post
                            If you have the habit of running bike with less petrol in tank say about 2 liters then it can cause failure of Fuel pump. The fuel is the medium that cools the fuel pump and so the pump needs to be immersed in Petrol all the time .
                            Good luck
                            Well I guess this reason could be main culprit. I've habit of filling the petrol after petrol bar starts to blink..
                            From now onwards, I would take care of it.

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                            • #24869
                              Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                              Well I guess this reason could be main culprit. I've habit of filling the petrol after petrol bar starts to blink..
                              From now onwards, I would take care of it.
                              Originally posted by psr View Post
                              If you have the habit of running bike with less petrol in tank say about 2 liters then it can cause failure of Fuel pump. The fuel is the medium that cools the fuel pump and so the pump needs to be immersed in Petrol all the time .
                              Good luck
                              Originally posted by pinkesh2703 View Post
                              UPDATE
                              So mechanic said that the fuel pump had fault but it could be repaired. A motor needed to be replaced n fuel pump would start. It would cost around 4500 rs.
                              That explains the premature dying on your fuel pump. And as psr said, running dry when you have the fuel light blinking always, would mean, your pump runs hotter and the fuel itself is what keeps the pump cool and lubricated. Yes, the motor alone can be replaced. Make sure, your inline fuel filter, fuel filer felt pads cleaned thoroughly before installation. And make sure you have a habit of keeping at least three liters in tank minimum hence forth.

                              Cheers!
                              VJ
                              Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                              The girl said, 'NO!'


                              And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                              THE END

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                              • #24870
                                Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                                That explains the premature dying on your fuel pump. And as psr said, running dry when you have the fuel light blinking always, would mean, your pump runs hotter and the fuel itself is what keeps the pump cool and lubricated. Yes, the motor alone can be replaced. Make sure, your inline fuel filter, fuel filer felt pads cleaned thoroughly before installation. And make sure you have a habit of keeping at least three liters in tank minimum hence forth.

                                Cheers!
                                VJ
                                Yes, I've to be very careful from now.
                                The worst part is that I knew the fuel level should be maintained b'coz of FI engine. But I never paid attention to it. Lesson learned in somewhat hard way. But happy that the bike had problem b'coz of known ignorance. Not b'coz of unknown uncontrollable reasons.
                                & to be very frank, this problem made me depressed. Despite of well maintaince why fuel filter failed in such early time. So many questions flooded in mind. But now very happy that a big problem has been averted.

                                So much thankful to xBHP forum n very helpful n knowledgeable members. Everytime perfect n logical replies are given to clear every doubt of mind.

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