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**aargee** · 09-26-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

BTW I have repaired my flat front tyre and its fine now. Shall post the procedure with photos today.

Pls post the pic of your DIY as I only have a theoritical knowledge on fixing tubeless tires. Probably if you post the DIY with pics, I will more than happy to trouble you with questions!!! My entire RJ trip I did without carrying a puncture kit which is quite dangerous & the primary reason not to have carried one was just because I only have theoritical knowledge, which ofcourse isn't an excuse

By God's grace I didn't run into flat tire all through the 12 days. Hope you understand my eagerness.

Originally posted by Ivin View Post

Aargee, leave him alone man

See, its not that I want to rag or anything, all I want is real facts!!! Had he said, C250R yields lesser FE than R15 or the tire grip on C250R is worse than R15, then those are facts; but is that the case here? Almost all auto journalist have agreed that the initial pickup is terrific on C250R & some of the magazines in abroad have even tested the 0-60 (mph) & have found C250R's acceleration is better than N250R (not sure if its carbd or FI); all the points mentioned here by him are freaking hilarious; all it needs is just go through this ownership thread or buy some xyz auto magazine & read. But these type of pseudo reviews (not even ownership review) are absolutely ridiculous!!!

Dedicated to Somen...
ROAD TEST: Honda CBR250 vs Kawasaki 250R - YouTube

Originally posted by Ivin View Post

By the way, are Nissin brake pads(front and rear) available at Chennai or B'lore? And whats the price?

Price I'm not sure, but, I'm sure one has to wait indefinetly

!!! My ordeal has already started due to worn out sprockets & from today I've switched back to my old faithful Rx until I get the spares for C250R.

**techfreak** · 09-26-2011, 09:39 AM

Repairing my Flat Tyre(CBR 250R)

Guys here goes the procedure to repair a Tubeless tyre Puncture......

You need all these....ans some soap solution, even plain water will do.

After this fill air in the tyre and find where the puncture is, in the absence of a paddock stand I had
to roll the bike to and fro and I used soap solution to find the culprit who hurt my Baby.....
Once you find the puncture take the gooseneck plier and takeout the nail or whatever.....

Then use the pointed tool with the handle and make the hole in the tyre slightly bigger

Once this is done take a sealing thread and put it in the needle like tool and force insert it in the tyre as shown.
Ensure you put the sealing thread well inside so a portion is inside the tyre.

Then cut the extra sealing thread with the help of a blade or cutter. Fill air (29 PSI for CBR 250R) and we are done!!
I used my car mini compressure as below but as bikers we will have to carry a footpump on our tours, advantage being small size
and am not sure whether the bike electricals can take the load of the electric compressure.

And finally this 3mm which gave me so much pain and hurt my CEEBER....

**MeTaL_MaNiaC** · 09-26-2011, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

Guys here goes the procedure to repair a Tubeless tyre Puncture......

Thanks a million techfreak! I too needed this. It is the same procedure the tyre shops do for car tubeless tires. Had seen it sometime before and wondered if the same could be done by us and on our bikes. thanks.

@somen: your such "review" before the ownership thread existed would had scared so many potential buyers.. But not anymore

yes, you have the freedom to post your experience and opinions, but with a backup of facts.
If you really think the experience you gave was how you felt, i would suggest to give it a second try. Test drive some other bike, maybe in another showroom. Once, we had an experienced member saying similar but then later found that the particular bike had issues.

**aargee** · 09-26-2011, 10:44 AM

@techfreak - Tks very much; pic 3 & 4 is where I've a confusion; how does the strip gets locked inside the tire? When we pull out the needle like tool, wouldn't the strip get tagged along with the tool

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**techfreak** · 09-26-2011, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

@techfreak - Tks very much; pic 3 & 4 is where I've a confusion; how does the strip gets locked inside the tire? When we pull out the needle like tool, wouldn't the strip get tagged along with the tool

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No when you put the thread inside the tyre just ensure that the wider n forked part of the tool goes completely inside the tyre then pull the tool out. Only the tool will come out not the thread as the at tip of the tool if you notice it is open unlike a normal needle

So when you pull it out the thread will get stuck in the tyre and the tool will comeout.
Hope this clarifies your doubt.

**aargee** · 09-26-2011, 10:53 AM

^^^ Sorry techfreak...still under confusion

Are you saying, poke it in, rotate by 90 degree or so & then pull it out?

**techfreak** · 09-26-2011, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

^^^ Sorry techfreak...still under confusion

Are you saying, poke it in, rotate by 90 degree or so & then pull it out?

No you dont have to rotate just put it in straight with the sealing thread attached as shown and pull it out, thats it. The sealing thread is thick and very sticky, more over once inside the tyre, the tyre kind of holds it tight due to the difference in diameter of the puncture(small) and thickness of the thread(thicker). When I had seen the puncture guy doing this I also had the same kind of doubt but the thread just gets stuck, the tool comes out and puncture done.

**sudeepnbr** · 09-26-2011, 11:03 AM

My only question to Somen - Did you really test ride the CBR 250R? Because I see, every single thing is in contrast to what the bike really is.
Best part, I was speechless after hearing about the initial pickup of CBR and the rear tyres of the CBR!!

Or did Honda cheat us all by giving some other bike in the name of CBR and you got the chance to lay your hands on the 'real' CBR?

**sumantg** · 09-26-2011, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

I turely belive that as per technology CBR 250 is better then P220..but i don't think so it's better than R15...becuase a mere 150cc costing Rs 1.25 lakhs has some meaning..same as Ninja 250cc has a meaning of 3.0 lakhs..

Infact P220 bothers CBR in cost ratio and performance as expected from indian brand....

I surely think a P220 with more 30cc would surely put CBR back...

But as we all know honda is a brand and bajaj won't touch it.. same as TATA Vs Toyota...

those were my review coz after riding a R15 for 1.2 yrs i guess i can feel teh difference between a 250cc and 150cc...

CBR is Better but not best...

R15 is best it's 150cc in india and NINJA is best in 250cc
again cost matters here alot..

Offence... only my opion..becuase who will shed 1.25 would surely shed 1.65 lakhs fro 250 cc rather than 150cc...

But shedding 3.0 lakhs is wat matters ,,,the difference between engineering and power.....

NINJA ROCKS on all term Dude !!! i see in your sig that 2012 CBR250 o Ninja 250...
Surely go for NINJA 250

Best of luck bro, you are lucky that you will get a 250cc in 2012

... but for me i will still need 2+ years to buy Nnja 250 or Yamaha 250 (if launched) but surely not CBR 250cc

Just to clarify, the price of Ninja is higher because of CKD (completely knockdown) and not because of superior in technology. Let me tell you this, Ninja is not made in India, but assembled in India. Bajaj gets Ninja in CKD form and assembled at Bajaj plant. Since this bike is kind of imported from Thailand it levies custom duties ( I think it is 30% on total cost of bike) , that is why the price tag is higher in India.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knock-down_kit

You cannot compare twin engine bike (Ninja) with single cylinder engine bike (CBR250R). Your comparison is similar to strength of a person aged at 14 years and a person aged at 22 years. This is wrong comparison. There is no competitor for CBR250R at present with similar specs.

Last but not least, CBR250R is definitely new generation model, wherein Ninja 250R is quite old model.

Bottom-line: Both bikes are good at their strengths

**Nitin_traveller** · 09-26-2011, 11:30 AM

guess, you can refer to this existing thread as well for puncture repair

xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/do-yourself/12673-diy-tubeless-tyre-puncture-repair.html

**Diuz** · 09-26-2011, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

No you dont have to rotate just put it in straight with the sealing thread attached as shown and pull it out, thats it. The sealing thread is thick and very sticky, more over once inside the tyre, the tyre kind of holds it tight due to the difference in diameter of the puncture(small) and thickness of the thread(thicker). When I had seen the puncture guy doing this I also had the same kind of doubt but the thread just gets stuck, the tool comes out and puncture done.

I think rotating by 90 degrees is the right way to go about it. I remember reading about it on another site somewhere.
Logic is : the puncture strip insertion tool(needle like tool) has a split at the end. Once you insert it and twist it by 90degrees, this split widens naturally. You can then remove it easily leaving the puncture strip in place.

**Rahul Rods Tewathia** · 09-26-2011, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

Hi friends,

This would be my own review on CBR 250R no offence on any owned person.

Today i went to Thane Honda to find out the real things likde test ride and purchase, maintenance, etc....

I am a happy owner of R15 from past 1.2yrs... i still think that i had a wise decision not going for p220..as i wanted better quality and same generation technology.

Today i took a test ride of a CBR 250r ABS...

And below are my opinions:
1. Bike riding posture wasn't that friendly as it should be??? i was sinked in the bike....
olaaa ya you are absolutely rite here its same as bajaj platina.
we forgot that r15's sitting posture is better then RE lolzzz .
2. handling was not good... we have revive hard to get a speed.
what top speed you touched while testing cbr
ohh so you dont need to revv hard in r15
3. Brakes were awesome..really tried skitting on sand but tyres didn't skit...awesome !!!!
you getting abs in 1.80 lac do ninja offers abs in 3 lac
4. 26kmpl average said by sale rep.
250 cc bike and you spending 1.60 lac on it so do anyone care for milage nice joke
5. parts are costlier than R15 as he said.
bike is costly than r15 so the parts will be costlier only.
better get a 220 in 80 k and get cheapper parts then r15
6. Not at all felt like riding a 250cc.
so honda is laying to us
7.ABS light was getting off again and again...
8. horn are same like R15.
even hayabusa has the same horn won't it worth buying in 13 lac.
I have riden RE 500/350cl... infact that gives more better feel of power and riding posture...
another joke of the day
cbr 250 r vs RE 500/350cl.
i don't think that any person who owns a R15 would prefer CBR250cc...
hahahahah i am that unlucky person who buyed cbr after selling my r15.
Rode good 3 km stretch on highway..
ohh thats too much for 250 cc bike .
many cbr owners have done 6k ,7k and 10 k too .
but this 3 km review is just awesom
R15 shows the pick up and smothness very easily and can be noticed..

CBR was late on those points...

ohh yesss 150 cc wid 17 ps and 250 cc wid 25 ps and cbr was late on these points.
another joke of the day

Still i think Nnja 250cc is worth 3 lakhs...CBR won't be an issue if the purchaser has not owned a R15...
another joke of the day
Saw new R15 today ..it rocks....But in power and speed after some open road CBR rocks!!!

But i feel that 250cc should show it's strenght righ tfrom start..
yes cbr dose show its power form starting i thing you riding cbr like platina than how we can show u the power of cbr.
Rest all your decisions...
ya i think wee all are happy owner of our beast cbr .
1.5 lakhs for 250cc is good but not better as as time pass we can feel the cons of the bikes...

REAR TYRE WAS THE BEST PART IN THE BIKE......

please clap for him he deserve it.
i am really thank full to u and i have done big mistake of selling my 1 year old r15 for cbr 250 r and all these after having test ride of cbr

**techfreak** · 09-26-2011, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Nitin_traveller View Post

guess, you can refer to this existing thread as well for puncture repair

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/do-yours...re-repair.html

Yes this too is a nice tutorial(Much better pictures than mine), but twisting is not reqd. Have been doing it as explained for over 4 years now no probs so far.( In my car)

**trustvishwas** · 09-26-2011, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

Hi friends,

This would be my own review on CBR 250R no offence on any owned person.

I thought it is ownership thread and not review thread.

Originally posted by somen1984 View Post

And below are my opinions:
2. handling was not good... we have revive hard to get a speed..
I have riden RE 500/350cl... infact that gives more better feel of power and riding posture...
R15 shows the pick up and smothness very easily and can be noticed..
CBR was late on those points...
But i feel that 250cc should show it's strenght righ tfrom start..
REAR TYRE WAS THE BEST PART IN THE BIKE......

I think the above lines are enough to convince all about the riding skills of the test rider. Any R15 rider claiming that you need to rev CBR harder needs to get his facts checked.

The only guys who can crib about CBR in THIS thread should be actual owners.

**aargee** · 09-26-2011, 12:24 PM

Somen - Its nothing against you, just that your reviews (not ownership) were not quite right & people who read here shouldn't be mislead. Your review (not ownership experience) is mostly biased towards what you have rather than what you've test rode.

Just understand, though we own C250R, we all love motorcycles be it N250R, RE, R15 or even Wego; if it weren't for two wheeler love, we wouldn't be here in this forum in first place isn't it? End of the day, we want to ride with REAL bikers & not posers!!!

Anyway, switching back to topic - For ages I've been trying to put this, but unable to; I'm getting a FE of 29.x to 31.x no matter how hard/soft or city/highway ride. And again, I don't slow down on empty roads/highway either. And owing to replace my sprockets & not wanting to damage it further, I'm switching to my good, old, faithful, tutty putty Rx from today

This also means...3rd service

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