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**ronthedon** · 04-30-2012, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

1) Do you know what are the rectifications made by Hyosung between the already rectified 2011 Release and the 2012 version, after their Indian foray, Based on customer feedback and Road-testing?

3) Do you know what are the warranty claims received by Hyosung, Kawasaki and Honda for FY 2011-12, respectively?

I would be quite interested in these two answers. Been looking for point #1 online for a long time, couldn't find any

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And NO, I am not asking in context of Hyosung vs. rivals, just incase you thought I did

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**sambit** · 04-30-2012, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by psych0hans View Post

LOL, I think I touched a nerve there... I was just commenting on coolboy's on comments, and the reviews I have seen so far of the gt650, both in India and abroad... none of the reviewers have failed to mention the "sub par" paint job or the plastics etc... When a person shells out 5lacs+ for a motorcycle, I think he deserves top class quality, nothing less... If you want to settle for less, it's, at the end of the day, your own hard earned money that's going into it, not mine...

@DrVenom, if expecting quality products is "not best biker material" then I'm definitely never going to become biker material...

@coolboy you have absolutely no obligation to justify your purchase, I'm just giving my views, which from what I heard last isn't a crime in this country or on these forums...

@ brat thanks for the info

I do know that the gt650 has a Japanese derived engine, as does he gv650 Aquila, I believe they are the same engines... Either ways I'm not trying to put any one down, just putting my views out there... Cheers!!!

Dude no true enthusiast, buys a bike without a reason....
some times we have to compromise on some things.in India,there is still no compititon to the GT,when you consider a supersport 600+ cc bike.(ninja 650 is a sports tourer). So according to my needs,I would still buy a Hyusung instead of a Ninja.
And I am always ready to compromise quality for that extra fun...
Right now I ride a RTR180,whose quality definitely lags to hondas and yamahas...but still I got these,only for the fun involved.... And looking forward for GT250R to arrive,which again would have no competition at this side of 2.5 lacs..(again,CBR is a sports tourer)..

Thing is there are certain new members,who just want to put forward there views in every threads,without much knowledge... so new entrants,please read the terms and conditions carefully before posting anything...

**Brat** · 04-30-2012, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by ronthedon View Post

I would be quite interested in these two answers. Been looking for point #1 online for a long time, couldn't find any

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And NO, I am not asking in context of Hyosung vs. rivals, just incase you thought I did

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Not that you'd start another brand war on this thread. But there are a few potentially very capable folks out there who could.

You have a PM.

**psych0hans** · 04-30-2012, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by sambit View Post

some times we have to compromise on some things

That's the exact point I was trying to make, thank you very much... I think we Indians are getting so used to compromising on things, that now we fight for our right to compromise...

Originally posted by sambit View Post

Thing is there are certain new members,who just want to put forward there views in every threads,without much knowledge... so new entrants,please read the terms and conditions carefully before posting anything...

I don't think there is any thing in the "terms and conditions" which stops us from putting our views out there... As long as they aren't derogatory or offensive...

**vijith.unnithan** · 04-30-2012, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by psych0hans View Post

That's the exact point I was trying to make, thank you very much... I think we Indians are getting so used to compromising on things, that now we fight for our right to compromise...

I don't think there is any thing in the "terms and conditions" which stops us from putting our views out there... As long as they aren't derogatory or offensive...

No offense Psychohans.. but its not about view and comments that is an issue.. we welcome your views but in an Ownership thread remember that you are putting views which you have read and heard with people who owns, rides and knows about these bikes... so the point is don jump to a conclusion .. simple..

**nagoo** · 04-30-2012, 04:48 PM

There is comprehensive news on Garware sale of 611 bikes the past year .. although this news is for GT250R ..but also includes some details of there strategy going forward on big bikes

Hyosung 250cc ready for road

**Brat** · 04-30-2012, 05:12 PM

^^^ I was told the GV's are not expected to hit Indian soil till early 2013 and the current sales plan is to focus on GT250R and GT250N release and sales?
You should likely share this information on the ST7 ownership thread as well where some of the folks are anticipating the release of the GV.

55Cr. to 75Cr. is a significant amount of investment for any corporate firm.

Does anyone know;

News about R&D investments or expansions of S&T/Hyosung?

Expected sales projections for GT250R/N (Only and not a combined sales projection of 3500 - 5000 units which includes all models) in south-east asian market for FY 2012-13?

**vijith.unnithan** · 04-30-2012, 05:26 PM

any idea if parts availability and costs will reduce ...

**sambit** · 04-30-2012, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by psych0hans View Post

That's the exact point I was trying to make, thank you very much... I think we Indians are getting so used to compromising on things, that now we fight for our right to compromise...

what else can you do??do you have any suggestion???If we have a lot of money to spent,v buy an SBK....till they become affordable,we need to comprimise....

Originally posted by psych0hans View Post

I don't think there is any thing in the "terms and conditions" which stops us from putting our views out there... As long as they aren't derogatory or offensive...

It was "offensive and derogatory" friend,you comming directly against a brand and an owner's post for no reason(and hence misleading)....
OK,that was too much OT...
Sorry guys...lets keep this thread clean and not hijack their thread.... back to the ownership experience...

**DrVENOM** · 04-30-2012, 07:04 PM

Originally posted by psych0hans View Post

That's the exact point I was trying to make, thank you very much... I think we Indians are getting so used to compromising on things, that now we fight for our right to compromise...

I don't think there is any thing in the "terms and conditions" which stops us from putting our views out there... As long as they aren't derogatory or offensive...

What are you trying to prove? You provide no useful information to this ownership thread. You just keep talking about how GT owners have bought a compromised bike, which the owners have cleared by saying its not ! You talk about how Indian's compromise with everything. I mean, are you drunk 24x7 ? Wake up man, this is a ownership thread. Stop posting non-sense here.

If writing up in the GT thread that the bike is sub-par and compromised quality, cant be called as offensive and derogatory. THEN WHAT IS ?

On a entirely different note ! I agree that Ninja 250cc is the best 250cc in the world. But, is it worth the price tag ? I mean really..! IS IT ? So your way of not compromising like the usual "indians" is just pay twice the price ? (in comparison to std cbr250).

**psych0hans** · 04-30-2012, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by DrVENOM View Post

On a entirely different note ! I agree that Ninja 250cc is the best 250cc in the world. But, is it worth the price tag ? I mean really..! IS IT ? So your way of not compromising like the usual "indians" is just pay twice the price ? (in comparison to std cbr250).

actually, if you go through the ninja 250r thread, you'll see it really is worth it... Worth every single penny, as a matter of fact.. l it is also competitively priced in india, if you compare it with the British/Australian prices... Anyways this is going way off topic now... Ride safe, ride hard... Peace out!!!

**nagoo** · 04-30-2012, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Brat View Post

News about R&D investments or expansions of S&T/Hyosung?

don;t know about the S&T R&D plans ... but saw couple of job posting from Garware Motors for design enrs and CAD design engr

**Brat** · 04-30-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally posted by vijith.unnithan View Post

any idea if parts availability and costs will reduce ...

Unlike the Kawa, Some of the parts are yet to be localized for Hyosung and it still keeps the tags a bit high. As per a press release from Miss. Diya Garware back in 2011, the following statement was made;

We are also looking at forging a joint venture for manufacturing the Hyosung range here in India with S&T within the next two years. Already a team comprising engineers from S&T and Garware are working on identifying the parts that can be localised. Then we would have to work on creating a vendor base

Source: Hyosung To Localize Their Bikes - Thanks To Green Bomb Ninja 650R | Motoroids

Originally posted by nagoo View Post

..saw couple of job posting from Garware Motors..

I think i can assume the reminder for now. Thanks.

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On a completely different note - I will be posting the 10,000 km ride and ownership report in another week or two, of the GT650R. This is more to help anyone out there who is looking to upgrade to a 650cc bike from a 150/200 or 250cc steed and is puzzled about the overall cost of ownership, spares, service intervals, service quality, aftermarket options, Known issues/fixes, resale value, wear and tear, ride and handling and last but not least, the amount of fun you get to have with the bike.

If there are any aspiring buyers out there and you wish to know any specifics about longterm ownership or have any questions, do let me know and i will do my best to include your queries.

Cheers!

**satyenpoojary** · 04-30-2012, 08:44 PM

NONE of the parts on the stock Ninja650r is localised. Even the spares are imports in bulk and only packed in India!

**psych0hans** · 04-30-2012, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

NONE of the parts on the stock Ninja650r is localised. Even the spares are imports in bulk and only packed in India!

What's funny is that some parts are actually made in India, exported to Thailand and then re-imported to India... Eg. Gauges made by pricol India... Lol

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