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**s1d** · 12-24-2016, 09:58 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by s1d View Post

On my D200, I notice that the fan sound changes (sounds like its spinning faster/slower) at stand still vs moving (or when the rpm is over 2500 rpm). This I have been noticing recently (because these days I am stuck longer and often in traffic than earlier)..

With reference to my earlier post, here is what I have found out..
The change in sound happens when i flick the headlight is on.. the current drawn by the bulb is probably making the fan go a wee bit slower. And with the headlight on, and i increase the revs to above 2k rpm, it spins up faster (i.e. the fan probably slows a bit at idle+headlight and comes back up to speed at a higher rpm.. or the speed is constant and the fan motor is causing that change in sound). I have no idea on how I can measure the fan rpm to conclude if it does indeed spin a bit slower with the headlight on at idle.

**jeyessh** · 12-25-2016, 10:24 AM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post

Last evening I got this doubt too. The fan is working but I don't know if it has slowed down.What will be the remedy for this? Will they replace the fan? Also, curious to know how will the fan actually slow down? As long as the thermostat is getting triggered at the right temperature and steady power is supplied to the fan shouldn't it be operating in consistent manner?

Getting the fan replaced is the only option.Fan slowing down is mostly due to fan windings loosing its efficiency. If cost is not an issue buy SPAL fan which runs faster than stock fan and better.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 12-25-2016, 05:50 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by s1d View Post

With reference to my earlier post, here is what I have found out..
The change in sound happens when i flick the headlight is on.. the current drawn by the bulb is probably making the fan go a wee bit slower. And with the headlight on, and i increase the revs to above 2k rpm, it spins up faster (i.e. the fan probably slows a bit at idle+headlight and comes back up to speed at a higher rpm.. or the speed is constant and the fan motor is causing that change in sound). I have no idea on how I can measure the fan rpm to conclude if it does indeed spin a bit slower with the headlight on at idle.

Right Sid and normal. The RPM of the fan getting slower is negligible when using your headlight, and you're spot on as to when increasing the RPM, the fan works normal. I don't think this is any problem per se. Unless, we have fan varying the speed of its RPM all by itself without any load per se on a normal cooling it's then we have trouble.

Cheers!
VJ

**jack_daniels** · 12-27-2016, 12:25 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Guys while adjusting the clock for a long night ride near my house to keep track of the time so that I reach home before 9 o'clock; I invariably reached the RPM menu and changed the RPM limit from 7,500 to 10,000 (My 4th servicing is due next week).

The changes I have noticed are immense. The bike has become so high/ free-revving. Earlier, I had to change to 6th gear by 65-70 kmph. Now, the gear changing threshold for 6th gear has increased to around 90-95 kmph. Bike has become so free-revving. I always wanted such a bike. It's awesome to ride such a bike. But, there are downsides to this as well. U have to have more control over ur bike otherwise things can get difficult. But, maybe I will learn the additional skills (like braking points, more controlling anticipation required, etc) within some time. It was the same for me when I had newly bought the bike. But, I mastered it within 2 months completely.[emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji16] [emoji16]

I just wanted to know any DOWNSIDES of increasing the RPM to 10,000 and making it such a high-revving machine from experienced members here.

**Gunslingin_Ridr** · 12-27-2016, 02:59 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

Guys while adjusting the clock for a long night ride near my house to keep track of the time so that I reach home before 9 o'clock; I invariably reached the RPM menu and changed the RPM limit from 7,500 to 10,000 (My 4th servicing is due next week).

The changes I have noticed are immense. The bike has become so high/ free-revving. Earlier, I had to change to 6th gear by 65-70 kmph. Now, the gear changing threshold for 6th gear has increased to around 90-95 kmph. Bike has become so free-revving. I always wanted such a bike. It's awesome to ride such a bike. But, there are downsides to this as well. U have to have more control over ur bike otherwise things can get difficult. But, maybe I will learn the additional skills (like braking points, more controlling anticipation required, etc) within some time. It was the same for me when I had newly bought the bike. But, I mastered it within 2 months completely.[emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji16] [emoji16]

I just wanted to know any DOWNSIDES of increasing the RPM to 10,000 and making it such a high-revving machine from experienced members here.

AFAIK, that's just an LED that lights up after you cross a certain RPM. Nothing to do with actual performance. So whatever you felt was in fact a placebo effect.

**chip94** · 12-27-2016, 03:27 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

Guys while adjusting the clock for a long night ride near my house to keep track of the time so that I reach home before 9 o'clock; I invariably reached the RPM menu and changed the RPM limit from 7,500 to 10,000 (My 4th servicing is due next week).

The changes I have noticed are immense. The bike has become so high/ free-revving. Earlier, I had to change to 6th gear by 65-70 kmph. Now, the gear changing threshold for 6th gear has increased to around 90-95 kmph. Bike has become so free-revving. I always wanted such a bike. It's awesome to ride such a bike. But, there are downsides to this as well. U have to have more control over ur bike otherwise things can get difficult. But, maybe I will learn the additional skills (like braking points, more controlling anticipation required, etc) within some time. It was the same for me when I had newly bought the bike. But, I mastered it within 2 months completely.[emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji16] [emoji16]

I just wanted to know any DOWNSIDES of increasing the RPM to 10,000 and making it such a high-revving machine from experienced members here.

What you're experiencing is totally normal. It's called the placebo effect :P

**s1d** · 12-27-2016, 03:55 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

The changes I have noticed are immense. The bike has become so high/ free-revving. Earlier, I had to change to 6th gear by 65-70 kmph. Now, the gear changing threshold for 6th gear has increased to around 90-95 kmph.

this has nothing to do with the shift light.. it's just a dummy light that can be set to light up as pleased.
It was a placebo or probably the quality of fuel and the weather outside that might have made the bike felt more 'rev-happy' (I do notice this behavior at times on my d200 when I use an additive like the Adon-P). Engines breath better on cold air and at lower altitudes.

**NitinGirish** · 12-27-2016, 04:35 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Any garage in Bengaluru which stocks Engine Ice? I am trying to avoid going to HSR layout just for buying this and again go to a different garage to get the coolant replaced.

**Legend Racer** · 12-27-2016, 05:52 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

i had reported abs light flash error. took it to svc. did a ecu reset. and error gone. not error code was registered, weird though. i suspect if map version has been updated since 2013. now bike rides a little different, it has happened few times in my car after ecu reset. ecu learning phase it seems.

**s1d** · 12-27-2016, 06:24 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Legend Racer View Post

now bike rides a little different, it has happened few times in my car after ecu reset. ecu learning phase it seems.

yes, happens when they clear the dtc memory. you might also notice random shut down (especially when moving from stand still) for the next few km.. it will be ok after a few km (usually around 10~20km).

**jack_daniels** · 12-28-2016, 02:05 AM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by s1d View Post

this has nothing to do with the shift light.. it's just a dummy light that can be set to light up as pleased.
It was a placebo or probably the quality of fuel and the weather outside that might have made the bike felt more 'rev-happy' (I do notice this behavior at times on my d200 when I use an additive like the Adon-P). Engines breath better on cold air and at lower altitudes.

I don't think this is a placebo effect. The changes are much more apparent. I mean earlier upon reaching 70 kmph, the engine would beg to change to change the gear to 6th. But, now that threshold has reaches about 100 kmph. Engine has become so-so free.

I have poured System-g in my bike and I know the difference it makes. That difference is related to top speed (power) increase, etc. Yes, it also lengthens the gearing a bit but still the bike remains COARSE. But, now the engine has become really free and high-revving. The kind of feeling I am getting is akin to the free-revving Ninja 300 (from what I've seen from close quarters during various rides).

Also, ENGINE HAS BECOME REALLY SILENT. EARLIER, THERE WAS A ROARING SOUND WHICH IS COMPLETELY GONE NOW SINCE THE TWEAK. I'm surprised actually..!![emoji15] [emoji15] [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4]

**s1d** · 12-28-2016, 10:20 AM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

I mean earlier upon reaching 70 kmph, the engine would beg to change to change the gear to 6th.

That's surprising for a 390!
Even a 200 doesn't feel strained enough to need to shift in to 6th at 70kmph.
Maybe you could try to set the rpm1 & rpm2 back to 7500 & 10500 and see if you can undo what you have done !

**chip94** · 12-28-2016, 11:26 AM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

I don't think this is a placebo effect. The changes are much more apparent. I mean earlier upon reaching 70 kmph, the engine would beg to change to change the gear to 6th. But, now that threshold has reaches about 100 kmph. Engine has become so-so free.

I have poured System-g in my bike and I know the difference it makes. That difference is related to top speed (power) increase, etc. Yes, it also lengthens the gearing a bit but still the bike remains COARSE. But, now the engine has become really free and high-revving. The kind of feeling I am getting is akin to the free-revving Ninja 300 (from what I've seen from close quarters during various rides).

Also, ENGINE HAS BECOME REALLY SILENT. EARLIER, THERE WAS A ROARING SOUND WHICH IS COMPLETELY GONE NOW SINCE THE TWEAK. I'm surprised actually..!![emoji15] [emoji15] [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4]

beg for 6th at 70?! If I do that on my 390, It's give me a nice kick letting me know I've selected the wrong gear :P

Avoid engaging 6th before 95-100 as it puts immense strain on the engine. The engine lugs like crazy.

**riazmomin** · 12-28-2016, 02:14 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by jack_daniels View Post

I don't think this is a placebo effect. The changes are much more apparent. I mean earlier upon reaching 70 kmph, the engine would beg to change to change the gear to 6th. But, now that threshold has reaches about 100 kmph. Engine has become so-so free.

I have poured System-g in my bike and I know the difference it makes. That difference is related to top speed (power) increase, etc. Yes, it also lengthens the gearing a bit but still the bike remains COARSE. But, now the engine has become really free and high-revving. The kind of feeling I am getting is akin to the free-revving Ninja 300 (from what I've seen from close quarters during various rides).

Also, ENGINE HAS BECOME REALLY SILENT. EARLIER, THERE WAS A ROARING SOUND WHICH IS COMPLETELY GONE NOW SINCE THE TWEAK. I'm surprised actually..!![emoji15] [emoji15] [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4] [emoji4]

Originally posted by chip94 View Post

beg for 6th at 70?! If I do that on my 390, It's give me a nice kick letting me know I've selected the wrong gear :P

Avoid engaging 6th before 95-100 as it puts immense strain on the engine. The engine lugs like crazy.

390 does not like to be in 6th gears with speeds anywhere below 72-75 kmph.

**niku** · 12-28-2016, 02:22 PM

Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

I ride in 6th when I'm over 75kmph. But a slight release in throttle, it goes to Mad Horse mode as it needs more.

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