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  • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

    Originally posted by ananthu View Post
    After having my 2015 model year Duke 390 serve me falwlessly for ~26,000 km, I'm starting to face my first set of issues. The first one was a broken water pump seal that showed up at around 24,000 Kms but that was dealt with under warranty. Then came a screweup timing chain, which I got fixed at roughly 25,800 kms. All these where easy to diagnose and I had a rough idea as to what is going on.
    Now I'm facing something I simply cannot understand. I'd like feed back from the guys here before I take it to the SVC. The real issue is that when the engine is hot, the bike cranks fine but as the engine starts, it idles at around 900 rpm for about a second and then slowly goes up to the usual idle in the next few seconds. Been happening for about 2 weeks now. Yesterday, on the way back from a ride, I also noticed that the idle is erratic when the bike is hot. The bike stalled under a condition it shouldn't have, but maybe that was me adjusting to a new pair of gloves. I also get low battery errors from time to time that go away after a minute of idling.
    Is it possible that the alternator is faulty? The spark plugs are new, got them changed when I got the timing chain changed. The stepper motor seems to be fine as the bike starts fine, idles fine and all under normal riding. It's only when the bike has been ridden for a while and gets really hot that it starts doing this. I'd really appreciate some suggestions here.
    I'd recommend you checking your inline fuel filter, and when was it last replaced. If the fuel filter hasn't been replaced for quite a while, now is the time to consider replacing one. If it's a stock battery, I'd strongly recommend you to check the voltage at the terminals and see if it's according to spec anything between 1.5 to 15 at 5000 RPM should be a good reading; replace battery if necessary. Battery like tires and chain sprocket are consumables and deteriorate accordingly, so do have a check on them.

    Thirdly and lastly, recommend cleaning your throttle body as it helps clear the carbon deposited inside which reduces the efficiency at fuel air mixture is fed to the engine.

    Keep your observations posted.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
    The girl said, 'NO!'


    And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


    THE END

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    • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

      In my RC 390, when I turn on the ignition I don't hear the fuel pump sound some times. I'm observing this for the past 2weeks, at least 3 4 times. I haven't noticed this before. Is this normal?
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      • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by Skanda View Post
        Try to get the wheel balanced. I faced the same around 140 and got the wheels balanced. After that it was stable even at 165! Before that, just check if the rim is not bent and the air pressure is alright.

        Hey, may I request for your feedback post throttle body cleaning? Did you notice any improvements in throttle response?

        Also, where did you get it done and how much did it cost you?

        Been thinking about getting it done on my 24,500kms run 2013 D390. I am not facing any problem though.
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        • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

          Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
          Hey, may I request for your feedback post throttle body cleaning? Did you notice any improvements in throttle response?

          Also, where did you get it done and how much did it cost you?

          Been thinking about getting it done on my 24,500kms run 2013 D390. I am not facing any problem though.
          I had been facing inconsistent ideal rpm. So got my throttle body cleaned and fuel filter changed. Don't know which solved the issue but everything is fine now. Got it serviced in Autoservice Banashankari
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          • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

            Originally posted by NitinGirish View Post
            Hey, may I request for your feedback post throttle body cleaning? Did you notice any improvements in throttle response?

            Also, where did you get it done and how much did it cost you?

            Been thinking about getting it done on my 24,500kms run 2013 D390. I am not facing any problem though.
            Nitin, 25k is the right ballpark to consider throttle body cleaning. Over time the fuel feed system gums up due to adulterated fuel, which all eventually gums up the throttle body, the throat which feeds the fuel to the engine. Throttle body cleaning, removes carbon deposits on the throttle body, and helps the bike ingest and digest better, as a result the performance is sprightly and the crispness is back, at least in most of the cases.

            Carbon deposits on the throttle body lead to frequent early morning stalls, erratic idle RPM, and increased fuel consumption and lag in acceleration or decreased urgency. Replacing the inline fuel filter along with cleaning of the throttle body helps in better fuel feed to the engine and is a peace of mind solution.

            Originally posted by fayad555 View Post
            In my RC 390, when I turn on the ignition I don't hear the fuel pump sound some times. I'm observing this for the past 2weeks, at least 3 4 times. I haven't noticed this before. Is this normal?
            Perfectly normal. 90% of the time, the pump primes every time the ignition is turned on; at times, the pump won't prime as it it functions only depending on the pressure required to pressurize the fuel feed system. Perfectly normal.

            Cheers!
            VJ
            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
            The girl said, 'NO!'


            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


            THE END

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            • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

              Originally posted by s1d View Post
              first please get the electricals checked.. i.e. the battery and stator. A bad stator will eventually damage the battery. The RR (regulator-rectifier) usually doesn't fail this early.
              then also connect the diag tool and see if there are any error codes, if there are any error codes fix it accordingly, if there aren't any, do this:
              1. ask them to clear the dtc (you will see this option in the diag tool).
              2. after clearing the dtc, start the bike and let it idle for 15 minutes - do NOT touch the throttle
              3. Shut it off after 15 min.
              4. Start it after a couple of minutes and go for a test ride and see if it still behaves erratically.
              * if you try to ride the bike immediately after clearing the dtc, it will idle erratically, shut down (will require you to slip the clutch and give more throttle).. this will happen for a few minutes.. so just let it idle for 15 min and let the ecu relearn.

              If it still does behave erratically, then it might require a Throttle body cleaning and maybe a replacement of the idle control stepper motor or the throttle position sensor (tps). Don't fall for the "saar, we have to change the throttle body"
              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
              I'd recommend you checking your inline fuel filter, and when was it last replaced. If the fuel filter hasn't been replaced for quite a while, now is the time to consider replacing one. If it's a stock battery, I'd strongly recommend you to check the voltage at the terminals and see if it's according to spec anything between 1.5 to 15 at 5000 RPM should be a good reading; replace battery if necessary. Battery like tires and chain sprocket are consumables and deteriorate accordingly, so do have a check on them.

              Thirdly and lastly, recommend cleaning your throttle body as it helps clear the carbon deposited inside which reduces the efficiency at fuel air mixture is fed to the engine.

              Keep your observations posted.

              Cheers!
              VJ
              Sorry for the very late reply guys, I wasn't riding the bike because the rear shock was dead and couldn't source one and by the time I got stocks of one I didn't have the money.
              Got the shock replaced today and told them about the idling issue and they said it was just a loose earth terminal. Will ride it and see how it performs after I get the engine warm enough. [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION], another xhbpian has helped me get a good rapport with the guys at the SVC, so that definitely helped. Will report back after I check how true their diagnosis is.
              Must ride on!

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              • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                Throttle body cleaned, idealing fluctuations gone and crispy throttle response.
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                • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                  Mainly the idling circuit orifices had carbon deposits. Cleaning the idler stepper motor and applying some lube on reinstall made a difference.
                  Moreover the fun we had while DiYing is the best part!

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                  • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                    Originally posted by Imam Jafer Ali View Post
                    Throttle body cleaned, idealing fluctuations gone and crispy throttle response.
                    Nice, that was a pretty large amount of carbon deposits.
                    How did u fix the broken air box? Mseal? Plastic heated/melting?
                    I recently got my hands on a couple of types of tape called flex tape and gorilla tape from the US, nice stuff.. Much better than duct tape especially for such automotive uses. Used to fix panels on my dio
                    Anyway, try n get a new airbox if possible.

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                    • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                      Originally posted by s1d View Post
                      Nice, that was a pretty large amount of carbon deposits.
                      How did u fix the broken air box? Mseal? Plastic heated/melting?
                      I recently got my hands on a couple of types of tape called flex tape and gorilla tape from the US, nice stuff.. Much better than duct tape especially for such automotive uses. Used to fix panels on my dio
                      Anyway, try n get a new airbox if possible.
                      The idling orifices, injector ports and IAT sensors collected up a lot of carbon deposits. Most dukes have those unstable idle issue, cleaning up the throttle body will definitely make a difference providing stable idle and will make the bike less prone to stall in bumper to bumper traffic.
                      We used solvent based gasket maker silicone for those cracks.
                      Nothing to worry the cracked area is a separate chamber for PCV system. Its just plastic welded, actually the airbox is of pretty good quality. Only that small chamber alone is made of some crappy ABS plastic.
                      Just cleaned those oil vapour traces with carb cleaner and used solvent based silicone from "anabond".
                      Now it's fine..

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                      • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        I recently got my hands on a couple of types of tape called flex tape and gorilla tape from the US, nice stuff.. Much better than duct tape especially for such automotive uses. Used to fix panels on my dio
                        Anyway, try n get a new airbox if possible.
                        These days anything with the name Gorilla seems to be having the upper hand, eh. (pun intended). Heard about the flex tape, but the Gorilla tape seems is a new one to me. Nonetheless, both are available here in India I guess. Might probably be fake, but hey..

                        Originally posted by Manoj Sivaraman View Post
                        The idling orifices, injector ports and IAT sensors collected up a lot of carbon deposits. Most dukes have those unstable idle issue, cleaning up the throttle body will definitely make a difference providing stable idle and will make the bike less prone to stall in bumper to bumper traffic.
                        We used solvent based gasket maker silicone for those cracks.
                        Nothing to worry the cracked area is a separate chamber for PCV system. Its just plastic welded, actually the airbox is of pretty good quality. Only that small chamber alone is made of some crappy ABS plastic.
                        Just cleaned those oil vapour traces with carb cleaner and used solvent based silicone from "anabond".
                        Now it's fine..
                        Originally posted by Imam Jafer Ali View Post
                        Throttle body cleaned, idealing fluctuations gone and crispy throttle response.
                        Imam and team that's a sport of doing a DIY. Did any of you guys care to clean the injector and did anyone have the time to check the holes that the injector has? Nonetheless, the fuel quality we get here in India definitely warrants a timely cleaning of injector and and throttle body, which I've iterated many a times here in this forum. Most of the throttle lag, vibrations at certain RPM and poor idling and stalling can be mostly almost nullified by a thorough throttle body clean, hoping no other gremlins are playing catch up.

                        Good sport there, fellas.

                        Cheers!
                        VJ
                        Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                        The girl said, 'NO!'


                        And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                        THE END

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                        • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                          These days anything with the name Gorilla seems to be having the upper hand, eh. (pun intended). Heard about the flex tape, but the Gorilla tape seems is a new one to me. Nonetheless, both are available here in India I guess. Might probably be fake, but hey..





                          Imam and team that's a sport of doing a DIY. Did any of you guys care to clean the injector and did anyone have the time to check the holes that the injector has? Nonetheless, the fuel quality we get here in India definitely warrants a timely cleaning of injector and and throttle body, which I've iterated many a times here in this forum. Most of the throttle lag, vibrations at certain RPM and poor idling and stalling can be mostly almost nullified by a thorough throttle body clean, hoping no other gremlins are playing catch up.

                          Good sport there, fellas.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Yeah we cleaned the injector just the carbon deposits near o rings and seats.
                          Didn't use ultrasonic cleaner as Bosch service centres do.
                          Injector had 4 atomizers, the position and angle was such that two of the atomizer will spray fuel into two ports.

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                            • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                              Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                              These days anything with the name Gorilla seems to be having the upper hand, eh. (pun intended). Heard about the flex tape, but the Gorilla tape seems is a new one to me. Nonetheless, both are available here in India I guess. Might probably be fake, but hey..
                              The flex tape which I saw on Amazon India had reviews that said it was a fake, and gorilla brand is pretty well known for adhesives like the gorilla glue in the usa. I wanted to get original stuff n also not pay a bomb for it here in India.. Hence got one each from abroad to test them.. I got the clear ones and they seem pretty ok for certain applications. It has replaced the duct tape (bought on eBay India) on my dio which used to peel off every few months or in rains, and now without the tape sorely sticking out since this is clear. Only time will tell how good it is.

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                              • Re: KTM Duke 390 - Ownership Reviews and Experiences

                                Hi guys, my duke has done 55k kms and off late throttle response and pickup has become really sluggish. I was thinking of getting throttle body and injectors cleaned from svc, can anyone help me with what kind of costs I should expect.
                                Thanks

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