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  • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
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    Ya bro, the bike's got to climb like a mountain goat. Pulling power and torque is more important more often here than top speed. Specially with badly maintained roads it's even worse. So I guess a 13T front is ok. I could experiment with a Crux 14T and see how it feels since it is not expensive.

    The mountains have their ups and downs along with gentler curves... and the valleys have their depths to descend .
    As i said ,like my favourite goddess who personifies love,natural beauty,fertility and aesthetics .The himalayas are beautiful, like her full of curves.They just like her will make us men into her lovers and inspire poets.I will never forget the journey bro,travelling on top of the bus was an amazing experience.Truly like her there's no mountain range on earth as beautiful as the himalayas.

    Wise decision bro ,stick with stock gearing.If you don't mind wasting 100 bucks you can try it out though.Valleys are the places where civilizations are born bro.
    Last edited by gixxer_junkie_m; 01-12-2011, 02:30 AM.
    Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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    • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
      You are the thread's unofficial tyre expert bro not to forget rims as well !! Suggest some options to abhilash his head is spinning enough already with the bulb problem,now you'll fry his brains out !!!
      nanotech-prof lightinstien
      sarvajith-prof tyreinstien or rimienstien or tyrimstien whichever applicable
      Socha Toh Locha.

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      • Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
        Instead of adding 1 more gasket and allowing more oil to leak from the block base (as in my pictures), isn't it better that i rather work on my head, finish the issue once and for all ?
        i am somehow not finding this gasket thing soo reliable..

        In my previous visit to a bore guy, he explained me all the ill effects of modding my head, proving that my current head cannot be modded in any way.
        so i would now go to a different bore guy, the same one who worked on the valve recesses, and ask him to work on my head, since I'll tell him that even with an extra gasket, it still knocks. Maybe he'll understand what to do....

        and i might get my head ported too...

        isn't this a better solution ?
        Get the head work done buddy ASAP ,porting is optional though.
        Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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        • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
          nanotech-prof lightinstien
          sarvajith-prof tyreinstien or rimienstien or tyrimstien whichever applicable
          SPOT ON!! not forgetting the coil are we?!!!
          Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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          • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
            Get the head work done buddy ASAP ,porting is optional though.
            Hope he does it,and saves his motor.
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
              You are the thread's unofficial tyre expert bro not to forget rims as well !! Suggest some options to abhilash his head is spinning enough already with the bulb problem,now you'll fry his brains out !!!
              Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
              nanotech-prof lightinstien
              sarvajith-prof tyreinstien or rimienstien or tyrimstien whichever applicable
              Nothing like that. I am a noob.
              Its just that I did a bit of research before settling for these Michelin tyres, so I know a bit.
              Btw, now my R15's rear tyre has 5 punctures plugged!
              Its time to change, but Goddess Lakshmi is kinda upset with me these days.

              @abhilashabhi12: I found out-the rim you have is a 2.50" wide rim made for the Classic Pulsar 180! Have a look at this site: Indiabike.com - Overdrive Roadtests - Bajaj Pulsar 180 / 150
              If you put a 3.00*18" tyre it will bend the rim from the sides.
              You need to look for a 100/90/18" tyre only.
              Following are the options I would suggest in 100/90/18" size:
              1. Michelin Pilot Sporty (best for tarmac usage)
              2. Michelin Sirac Street (On&Off road control)
              3. Dunlop GeoCruiser (you know very well about this one)
              I would not suggest the Ceat/any other button type tyre as they are heavier&bring down the accelaration of the Fiero.

              Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
              SPOT ON!! not forgetting the coil are we?!!!
              Which coil?
              I'm yet to go to an auto electrician.
              I guess it will finally get postponed&we will go to Ruby together only.
              Maintaining 2 bikes itself is this tough, I wonder how it will be if I get a third!
              Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                As some one participating in this thread, I had noticed that with only 166 pages and 1656 posts....the forum is turning out to be highly technical,and the sharing of technical information is phenomenal. I don't think any other forum is so consistently sharing,and doing so much mods like this one.So much knowledge about engine, electricals,and tires are exchanged here......I am happy to have come to this forum and had gained knowledge here..Many thanks to everyone.
                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                  Like I said last time, M45 is best for front-it will wear out too early in rear.
                  M45 at front often wears out unevenly. Have seen it happen with different people, riding diff bikes.
                  M45 at rear easily lasts 24,000km's, all my M45's at rear lasted at least that much.
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                  • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                    That is not the correct rim size.
                    The rim sizes for Fiero F2 are 1.6" front&1.85" rear.
                    CBZ Classic&most of the newer bikes have 1.85" front&2.15 rear.
                    Do check what spec.tyre the Classic 180 came with.
                    If you ask a tyre/wheel alignment shop guy, he will say he can put any tyre as long as it is an 18"!


                    Fiero F2 does not have the kind of top-end that Suzuki Fiero has-its max company claimed topspeed is 100kmph (105 on speedo with error). So how much do you expect the cruising speed to be?
                    I think now you know that it is actually 2.50x18, this rim is bad ass rim, MRF zapper Y 100/90-18 contact patch is almost 95% on road fitting on this rim.

                    Coming to F2 top speed, I haven't driven an F2 until now but I am sure it can do well since it is based on same engine as Fiero, with 14t IMO you can easily 80kmph if not more & yeah do check on that W30 grade engine oil you are using now becuase the thinner the oil the more stress on engine on Higher revv's & In my experience thinner oils do not perform really well in long distance touring

                    Originally posted by gixxer_junkie_m View Post
                    You are the thread's unofficial tyre expert bro not to forget rims as well !! Suggest some options to abhilash his head is spinning enough already with the bulb problem,now you'll fry his brains out !!!
                    I think I have made up my mind, I will be sticking to 100/90-18, I got a link yesterday in which they have clearely mentioned all the possible rim sizes for specific size tyres & the minimest possible size can be put on 2.50x18 is 3.25x18, I dont wana play around with it so will lug around with Zapper Y for some more time

                    Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                    nanotech-prof lightinstien
                    sarvajith-prof tyreinstien or rimienstien or tyrimstien whichever applicable

                    Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                    Nothing like that. I am a noob.
                    Its just that I did a bit of research before settling for these Michelin tyres, so I know a bit.
                    Btw, now my R15's rear tyre has 5 punctures plugged!
                    Its time to change, but Goddess Lakshmi is kinda upset with me these days.

                    @abhilashabhi12: I found out-the rim you have is a 2.50" wide rim made for the Classic Pulsar 180! Have a look at this site: Indiabike.com - Overdrive Roadtests - Bajaj Pulsar 180 / 150
                    If you put a 3.00*18" tyre it will bend the rim from the sides.
                    You need to look for a 100/90/18" tyre only.
                    Following are the options I would suggest in 100/90/18" size:
                    1. Michelin Pilot Sporty (best for tarmac usage)
                    2. Michelin Sirac Street (On&Off road control)
                    3. Dunlop GeoCruiser (you know very well about this one)
                    I would not suggest the Ceat/any other button type tyre as they are heavier&bring down the accelaration of the Fiero.


                    Which coil?
                    I'm yet to go to an auto electrician.
                    I guess it will finally get postponed&we will go to Ruby together only.
                    Maintaining 2 bikes itself is this tough, I wonder how it will be if I get a third!
                    @ Sarvajit

                    thanks for advising on tyre size, I will stick to 100/90-18 & my zapper Y seems to can lug around another 5k if not more, so Until then I will decide on which tyre to go for, I always liked the button type & I know the beauty of Geo Cruiser, my heart says go for Dunlop Monster same tread pattern as Sirac

                    I am confused as of now

                    Originally posted by psr View Post
                    As some one participating in this thread, I had noticed that with only 166 pages and 1656 posts....the forum is turning out to be highly technical,and the sharing of technical information is phenomenal. I don't think any other forum is so consistently sharing,and doing so much mods like this one.So much knowledge about engine, electricals,and tires are exchanged here......I am happy to have come to this forum and had gained knowledge here..Many thanks to everyone.
                    Previliged to be a part of this thread, of all the ownership thread I have seen in xbhp, this one here has the most technical debate posts & sharing of knowledge
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                    • Originally posted by n_aditya View Post
                      Thanks a ton guys.

                      Will stick to stock sizes if the 3.25X18 size is not available for the rear. Planning on gettin these new shoes for my ride on friday.
                      The Sai-Iyengar guy is BSing about 3.25 not being available, I have used that tyre for close to 3 years, excellent grip, 3.00 * 18 is too thin and 4 * 18 is an overkill for the Fiero. 3.25 is perfect, hunt and get it.

                      Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
                      Thought I saw a Jumbo TVS 3.00 x 18 on some bike some time back... it was slightly wider than our stock tyre.
                      Man, I would advice you to throw that tyre away, even if they give it at free of cost. In colder weather expect the tyre to perform still worse. It is the worst tyre I have ever used in my over a lakh kms of riding the Fiero.

                      Originally posted by nav75 View Post
                      M45 at front often wears out unevenly. Have seen it happen with different people, riding diff bikes.
                      M45 at rear easily lasts 24,000km's, all my M45's at rear lasted at least that much.
                      +1 to Nav. I have seen two M45's on my front wheel showing uneven wear. The best I have used for the front is the M35 2.75 * 18.

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                      • Originally posted by nav75 View Post
                        M45 at rear easily lasts 24,000km's, all my M45's at rear lasted at least that much.
                        Hmm, that is good to hear. I could have got M45 for the rear too, but I chose the Sirac. Though it is a 3.00, it looks slightly bigger due to the button profile.

                        Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post
                        I think now you know that it is actually 2.50x18, this rim is bad ass rim, MRF zapper Y 100/90-18 contact patch is almost 95% on road fitting on this rim.
                        I think I have made up my mind, I will be sticking to 100/90-18, I got a link yesterday in which they have clearely mentioned all the possible rim sizes for specific size tyres & the minimest possible size can be put on 2.50x18 is 3.25x18, I dont wana play around with it so will lug around with Zapper Y for some more time
                        Yes, I think it was the largest one in its time, since the CBZ Classic, which also came with a 100/90/18" tyre had only a 2.15" wide rim!
                        That is why putting a smaller tyre will not suit.
                        However, the mileage&accelaration both must have taken a hit due to the heavy rim.

                        Coming to F2 top speed, I haven't driven an F2 until now but I am sure it can do well since it is based on same engine as Fiero, with 14t IMO you can easily 80kmph if not more & yeah do check on that W30 grade engine oil you are using now becuase the thinner the oil the more stress on engine on Higher revv's & In my experience thinner oils do not perform really well in long distance touring
                        Though the engines are similar, there are a lot of changes made for the F2. Fiero puts out its peak power at 7.5K RPM, whereas F2 does it at 7K RPM. The exhaust note, engine refinement at lower speeds etc.all are different for the two. Gixxer says Fiero can do 118kmph in stock form. I have never seen my F2 going beyond 110kmph even when it was new!
                        As for the oil, it is the first time I'm trying out this Tru4Premium semi synth oil. Till now I have been using 20w40 mineral Tru4.

                        @ Sarvajit

                        thanks for advising on tyre size, I will stick to 100/90-18 & my zapper Y seems to can lug around another 5k if not more, so Until then I will decide on which tyre to go for, I always liked the button type & I know the beauty of Geo Cruiser, my heart says go for Dunlop Monster same tread pattern as Sirac

                        I am confused as of now
                        Ok, make your choice when the time comes! Button type in Michelin will be the lightest, followed by MRF, Dunlop and finally Ceat. I feel its better you rule out Ceat, as they are really heavy. As it is you are running a heavier rim&a bigger tyre size. Accelaration has already gone down. If I were in your place, I would get the stock rim, put a 3.00 tyre&enjoy the bike lifting up every now&then!

                        Originally posted by nav75 View Post
                        M45 at front often wears out unevenly. Have seen it happen with different people, riding diff bikes.
                        Originally posted by bprags View Post
                        +1 to Nav. I have seen two M45's on my front wheel showing uneven wear. The best I have used for the front is the M35 2.75 * 18.
                        I have discussed this with GoGreen also-I think the tread pattern is the culprit here which gives an impression of uneven wear. Moreover, it doesn't even have a central groove unlike the M35.
                        Too early to tell in my case. If it is not good, I will go for the M35 next time!
                        Last edited by Sarvajit; 01-12-2011, 12:34 PM.
                        Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                        • Let me summarize the tyre recommendations

                          Front
                          M35 2.75 x 18.

                          Back
                          3:00 x 18 Sirac Street.

                          is that right?

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                          • Originally posted by chief ashman View Post
                            Let me summarize the tyre recommendations

                            Front
                            M35 2.75 x 18.

                            Back
                            3:00 x 18 Sirac Street.

                            is that right?
                            Yes, if you are interested in the central groove, then M35. Else M45 for the front.
                            Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                            • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                              Yes, if you are interested in the central groove, then M35. Else M45 for the front.
                              With more than 5 years of Michelin usage I would say use M35 for the front and Sirac for the rear

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                              • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

                                Though the engines are similar, there are a lot of changes made for the F2. Fiero puts out its peak power at 7.5K RPM, whereas F2 does it at 7K RPM. The exhaust note, engine refinement at lower speeds etc.all are different for the two. Gixxer says Fiero can do 118kmph in stock form. I have never seen my F2 going beyond 110kmph even when it was new!

                                It's not me man .It's been proved on the chennai race track by OVERDRIVE when they did track tests with stock bikes and had asked a TVS race team rider to ride the STOCK FIERO and the fastest bike on indian roads ,that is bikes made in india was the YAMAHA RX 135 5 Speed and the next fastest was the Fiero which clocked the mentioned speeds.CBZ and dtsi Pulsars were slower.The track was wet at that time and the equipment used for testing was heavy one which needed to be strapped on to the pillion seat and the riders were told to take it easy on the lap times .As the track was wet and the equipment costly.

                                They had taken the corner entry and exit speeds also,it was first done by the OVERDRIVE tester Aspi Bathena and the best times were set by the racers later.Once again on stock bikes used by OVERDRIVE.

                                The track's straights are short,so a stock Fiero will hit more than 118 kmph on longer stretches and actual speeds not speedo indicated ones.
                                Life begins, once you hit the power band !!

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