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  • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by VaruaG View Post
    Hey, is that the choke? how do I use it to warm heat up the engine?

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    I hear this weird rubbery, repeating sound when i pull in the clutch at low speeds. As if the disc or wheel is rubbing against something?
    Anyone else faced this issue? what could it be?
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    In this pic the choke is engaged

    The rubbery sound is most probably due to the chain rubbing against the rubber guide close to the front sprocket. Anyway you can test if the sound is from the discs by- take the bike upto dome speed. Put the bike in neutral and shut off the engine. And now slowly depress the brakes individually. If the sound stops then the disc which you are depressing is the culprit.

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    • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

      Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
      Yeah, I'm talking about that metal plate. I'd love to tinker with it to have the beam I want, but I don't even own the bike. So it's just a thought experiment for me.

      Link to the video please, it would help us better understand it instead of screenshots.
      Sorry, I don't have a video but I have a lot of pics and I am sure I'll be able to answer atleast half of your questions.
      So what exactly do you want to know. I also had a bixenon kit so I kinda know about that too.

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      • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

        Originally posted by xttony View Post
        There are several issues with the bike but I don't think any of the issues is a deal breaker.

        Mild vibrations

        Very less torque in lower rpm.

        Poor quality handle bars

        Centre of gravity of the bike is slightly towards the front making it a front heavy bike. Due to this the bike feels hard to turn and you may have to put effort into it. But due to the bike being front heavy the front brakes work flawlessly.

        If you get eurogrip tires you'll be at a loss as the mrf tires are a lot better.

        Projector not as good as Pulsar220 but the whole light setup is a lot better than NS

        Overall plastics quality is not great.

        Awful wiring harness.

        Hard seats, specially the pillion seat.

        And as usual Bajaj cut cost everywhere possible, like there is no covering on battery terminals etc.
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        From my experience the engine on this bike feels a lot smoother than the NS, the engine feels better as you raise the rpm.

        Nevertheless, first take a test ride for about 5kms if you can. You cannot make up your mind with a 200meter testride, nor will you be able to know the bikes strengths and weaknesses.
        Thanks xttony for your comment.

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        Originally posted by anand.js View Post
        Any known issue with NS should apply to this one as well, unless Bajaj has worked on them. That said, the NS itself is a pretty reliable bike with very few niggling issues reported. You can check the NS thread if you like.

        Few minor issues have cropped up in my bike in the mean while. I have crossed about 1.6K kms, and have officially closed the run-in period.

        Problems faced so far:
        1. Fairing screws getting loose by themselves. Have tightened them need to see if this repeats.
        2. Timing chain noise is now evident, need to get that adjusted ASC.
        3. Main chain is noisy, have sprayed TVS chain lube, havn't yet tested it for noise.
        4. Low beam is too vague, need to open it up and adjust the beam.

        A while back someone had asked whats a good cruising speed on this bike, I would say around 95-100kmph. Though the bike makes brisk progress till about 100kmph, if one upshifts to 6th at the said speed, the acceleration is dull. If there is some head wind like the ones I faced on Sunday morning, there is hardly any progress. I did manage to do around 127 and a wind free stretch, it was still pulling would have reached 135+, and it was pretty vibe free. Its strange I get vibes at lower revvs, and the engine is smooth at the higher end of the rev range
        Thanks anand.js for your comment.

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        • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

          Hi there! We just picked up an AS 200 for my younger brother. Picked it up from KLN Bajaj, Ambatthur. Extremely displeased with the delivery of the vehicle! We still havent received the owners manual or first aid kit! It's time for it's first service, and i sure as hell do not want to leave it at KLN. Is there any owner here who has had a good experience in any other ASC in Chennai? TIA!

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          • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

            Closing in on 2K km mark. Armed with my new Allen key set, went ahead tightening the loose screws in the fairing. Made a huge difference. Much of the harshness and weird noises were actually from the Fairing. There are many loose bits in the fairing/tank area needs close attention. I am not sure if the Svc Center will care, some personal attention might be required. Engine seems to be smoothen-ing out nicely as the kms are clocked.

            Someone mentioned a squeaky rear spring, are you sure its the rear and not the front ? My front suspension is making the rubbery squeaky noise from day 1. But they work perfectly, no thud or other noises which going over potholes.
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            • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

              Originally posted by anand.js View Post
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              Someone mentioned a squeaky rear spring, are you sure its the rear and not the front ? My front suspension is making the rubbery squeaky noise from day 1. But they work perfectly, no thud or other noises which going over potholes.
              Yea pretty sure its the rear mono, the service center guy showed me all the new bikes which had come in this months lot and all of them had the same issue. Strangely none of the RS200s have this issue.

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              • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by sibin.mohan View Post
                Yea pretty sure its the rear mono, the service center guy showed me all the new bikes which had come in this months lot and all of them had the same issue. Strangely none of the RS200s have this issue.

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                If its thw rear mono, it could be the separator plastic sheet. The sheet covers the damper and the spring is placed around it. If the spring makes contact with the plastic, the sound can arise during operation. It was a problem with sns suspension setups.

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                • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                  Originally posted by Probs View Post
                  Hi All,

                  Kindly let me know of any issues/problems with Pulsar AS 200. I have been unable to find much problems for this bike on google.
                  I have been meaning to buy Bajaj Pulsar AS 200, Just want to be sure that its all Value for money.

                  Thanks in Advance.
                  Probal
                  Hi

                  Saw your post and thought of the problems i was facing. Luckily no big things came to my mind. however i have been observing for the niggles since that time and here are a few.

                  (i) The parking light, tail lamp, headlight, even the console backlight does not work without the engine being on. this is inconvinient at best. In Fact it is a safety issue when your engine shuts off for whatever reason while driving in the night. youre suddenly not at all visible to others on the road!!

                  (ii) The front suspension makes a rubbery noise hwen you go over bad roads as pointed out by anand.js below.

                  (iii) The weight of the bike is a lot and CG seems to be quite high so leaning and moving it becomes a difficult job while you're parking etc. Try moving back up an incline... its almost impossible for me.

                  (iv) Related to the previous one, turning radius is huge!! i feel my alto 's turning radius would be the same!!

                  (v) In the little experience i have had with bajaj svc, ive come to realise that their reputation is well deserved. Everything from overcharging, to not giving bills, incompetent mechanics, high headedness, to using FAKE parts and oil at the dealership itself!! I hope i dont have to go there anymore.

                  (vi) The bike takes ages to warm up during cold morning starts even in these summer days. think of the winters in the mountains. Also the choke lever is incoveniently placed and it does not stick to its place, i.e. you have to keep holding it and as soon as you release it, it disengages the choke. (when i pull the choke my rpm goes to almost 4k rpm!! is it supposed to be that high?)

                  (vi) No place to keep any stuff. I dont know where to keep the bike papers even. Have been riding without them but that cannot be sustained.

                  (vii) Low beam is too short but i see from some comments in this thread that it is adjustable. It looks like hard work though and from my Bajaj Svc experience dont want them to touch/mess up anything.

                  (viii) Suspension is quite hard. It really takes a toll on your body on bad roads. I feel too tired after even 10 km of bad roads. Again this is adjustable, but again cant trust bajaj svc to do anything good with the bike. so living with it for now.

                  (ix) The seat isnt very comfortable, its high, quite narrow and hard and you tent to slip forward onto the fuel tank. this really does no good for your private parts.

                  (x) Initially the engine is very harsh and loud. The engine has gotten better after about 1K Kms, but there are still some noises, probably from the fairing.

                  (xi) Finding the neutral!! This is something thats just impossible. When i stop to park i have to go from 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2 atleast 4-5 times and usually 7-8 times to be able to reach neutral. And sometimes even then i dont find it and then my patience runs out and i turn off the key with the clutch pressed. Ive never had an issue of the gear being stuck in neutral while going from 1-N-2 or 2-N-1 like some other people have been facing. It seems that my bike just doesnt want to stop!! ;P (are so many gear shifts 1-2-1-2.... bad for the clytch system/ gears ? should i just kill the engine in gear and then avoid so many useless gear changes and irritation?)

                  (xii) i bet there were more but i seem to have forgotten them. will post when i remember.

                  Originally posted by anand.js View Post
                  Someone mentioned a squeaky rear spring, are you sure its the rear and not the front ? My front suspension is making the rubbery squeaky noise from day 1. But they work perfectly, no thud or other noises which going over potholes.

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                  • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                    Originally posted by anand.js View Post
                    Closing in on 2K km mark. Armed with my new Allen key set, went ahead tightening the loose screws in the fairing. Made a huge difference. Much of the harshness and weird noises were actually from the Fairing. There are many loose bits in the fairing/tank area needs close attention. I am not sure if the Svc Center will care, some personal attention might be required. Engine seems to be smoothen-ing out nicely as the kms are clocked.

                    Someone mentioned a squeaky rear spring, are you sure its the rear and not the front ? My front suspension is making the rubbery squeaky noise from day 1. But they work perfectly, no thud or other noises which going over potholes.
                    My bike also makes that squeaky sound, though it has reduced now.

                    I know it is early, but has anyone checked the mileage? Kitne-deti-hai?
                    I have been tracking my bike's mileage from day one, and in city it is giving about 28kmpl.
                    And, the first fill up was V-power from Shell. All other fill ups were from Shell too (except once, when I had taken the bike out of town), but normal petrol.

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                    • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                      Originally posted by guptavis View Post
                      Hi

                      Saw your post and thought of the problems i was facing. Luckily no big things came to my mind. however i have been observing for the niggles since that time and here are a few.

                      (i) The parking light, tail lamp, headlight, even the console backlight does not work without the engine being on. this is inconvinient at best. In Fact it is a safety issue when your engine shuts off for whatever reason while driving in the night. youre suddenly not at all visible to others on the road!!
                      If the engine shuts off, the brake light are still functional. This might be of help in the scenario mentioned by you.

                      (v) In the little experience i have had with bajaj svc, ive come to realise that their reputation is well deserved. Everything from overcharging, to not giving bills, incompetent mechanics, high headedness, to using FAKE parts and oil at the dealership itself!! I hope i dont have to go there anymore.
                      You got to accept that they get full points on being consistant... consistantly being bad

                      (vi) The bike takes ages to warm up during cold morning starts even in these summer days. think of the winters in the mountains. Also the choke lever is incoveniently placed and it does not stick to its place, i.e. you have to keep holding it and as soon as you release it, it disengages the choke. (when i pull the choke my rpm goes to almost 4k rpm!! is it supposed to be that high?)
                      The choke is desined that way so that it returns to the disengaged position after releasing. It was this way in all my previous bikes.

                      (vi) No place to keep any stuff. I dont know where to keep the bike papers even. Have been riding without them but that cannot be sustained.
                      There is a place on sides where you can keep papers in one side and toolkit on the other. Will post some pics once I reach home.

                      (xi) Finding the neutral!! This is something thats just impossible. When i stop to park i have to go from 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2 atleast 4-5 times and usually 7-8 times to be able to reach neutral. And sometimes even then i dont find it and then my patience runs out and i turn off the key with the clutch pressed. Ive never had an issue of the gear being stuck in neutral while going from 1-N-2 or 2-N-1 like some other people have been facing. It seems that my bike just doesnt want to stop!! ;P (are so many gear shifts 1-2-1-2.... bad for the clytch system/ gears ? should i just kill the engine in gear and then avoid so many useless gear changes and irritation?)
                      This is a real pain in arse... Faced the same issue in my RS as well. But this will go away in some time. Although not at the same level as Karizma, the gear box becomes smoother with time. You can kill the engine in gear but do that by using engine kill switch/ignition. I have seen a lot of people killing the engine by releasing the clutch, which would be bad for the bike.
                      My comments in bold....
                      Riding a bike is like flying.... All your senses are alive...

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                      • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                        Originally posted by xttony View Post
                        Just pull it
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                        In this pic the choke is engaged

                        The rubbery sound is most probably due to the chain rubbing against the rubber guide close to the front sprocket. Anyway you can test if the sound is from the discs by- take the bike upto dome speed. Put the bike in neutral and shut off the engine. And now slowly depress the brakes individually. If the sound stops then the disc which you are depressing is the culprit.

                        Haven't used the choke yet... Why is it placed at such an inconvenient location Bajaj!

                        Regarding the rubbing sound, felt quite disappointed to be facing this on a brand new bike! The sound only appears when speeds are low, 10~20 kmph.
                        Haven't tested it individually, but I think the rear disc is rubbing against something. I touched the disk to check if it was hot due to friction, but that wasn't the case too!

                        Also, the engine harshness, vibes and hard gearshifts are really getting to me. Coming from a Honda, I was actually surprised by the bike's behaviour. Hope it will smoothen out eventually. I'm getting stuck ever so often on Neutral, when shifting from 1 to 2! This is quite dangerous in rush hour traffic! What can be done?

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                        • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                          Originally posted by VaruaG View Post
                          Haven't used the choke yet... Why is it placed at such an inconvenient location Bajaj!

                          Regarding the rubbing sound, felt quite disappointed to be facing this on a brand new bike! The sound only appears when speeds are low, 10~20 kmph.
                          Haven't tested it individually, but I think the rear disc is rubbing against something. I touched the disk to check if it was hot due to friction, but that wasn't the case too!

                          Also, the engine harshness, vibes and hard gearshifts are really getting to me. Coming from a Honda, I was actually surprised by the bike's behaviour. Hope it will smoothen out eventually. I'm getting stuck ever so often on Neutral, when shifting from 1 to 2! This is quite dangerous in rush hour traffic! What can be done?
                          It's not surprising that you haven't used the choke. I didn't use the choke for more than a month, because I got the manual after a month. Even after getting the manual I wasn't sure how to do it. As the service center said that the bike had automatic choke, I was confused. The manual didn't help either as the pic shown in the manual is not what it actually looks like.
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                          This is what the choke looks like according to Bajaj.

                          If you got the bike serviced then there is a very good chance that they didn't align the rear tyre properly. Get that fixed at any good mechanic. Will cost you less than ₹50.

                          The engine harshness will decrease with kms clocked(my experience - but they won't go away). I too face the issue of the gear getting stuck at neutral whenever quick shifting. It is due to the long gear throw and the fact that the gear lever being too high. I will try to fix that as soon as I get my hands on the bike.

                          This is not a bad bike but it needs a lot of maintenance, and a lot of tweeks and mods. It needs to be serviced properly and by that I mean at a good mechanic and not any Bajaj service center.

                          I hardly think that Bajaj even tests the bikes out for ergonomics. There is a hell lot of complaints in that department.

                          P.S. I am coming from a GS150R which is the smoothest bike in all indian bikes. If you don't believe me test ride a new bike.

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                          • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by Cleaner View Post
                            How's the spread of the low beam compared to P200NS?
                            Haven't ridden 200ns so don't know.
                            Low beam has huge spread but surprisingly the light intensity is still pretty high.
                            High beam is car like. It lits the road from your bike to the far end uniformly.
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                            • re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

                              Originally posted by guptavis View Post
                              Hi

                              Saw your post and thought of the problems i was facing. Luckily no big things came to my mind. however i have been observing for the niggles since that time and here are a few.

                              (i) The parking light, tail lamp, headlight, even the console backlight does not work without the engine being on. this is inconvinient at best. In Fact it is a safety issue when your engine shuts off for whatever reason while driving in the night. youre suddenly not at all visible to others on the road!!
                              Same thought. Won't this constant start stop of the Instrument console shorten its life-span?

                              (ii) The front suspension makes a rubbery noise hwen you go over bad roads as pointed out by anand.js below.
                              Yes it does. Maybe the rubber bushings are too tight? But I'm afraid to complain about this to the SVC, lest they screw up the Front suspension!

                              (iii) The weight of the bike is a lot and CG seems to be quite high so leaning and moving it becomes a difficult job while you're parking etc. Try moving back up an incline... its almost impossible for me.
                              The weight becomes apparent when you take tight U-turns or try to park in restricted locations. Today almost have a fall as the engine died mid U-turn!

                              (iv) Related to the previous one, turning radius is huge!! i feel my alto 's turning radius would be the same!!
                              Turning radius becomes a pain when parking. Can it be reduced in any way?

                              (v) In the little experience i have had with bajaj svc, ive come to realise that their reputation is well deserved. Everything from overcharging, to not giving bills, incompetent mechanics, high headedness, to using FAKE parts and oil at the dealership itself!! I hope i dont have to go there anymore.
                              Not much experience here. First Bajaj bike and 1st service due in some time.

                              (vi) The bike takes ages to warm up during cold morning starts even in these summer days. think of the winters in the mountains. Also the choke lever is incoveniently placed and it does not stick to its place, i.e. you have to keep holding it and as soon as you release it, it disengages the choke. (when i pull the choke my rpm goes to almost 4k rpm!! is it supposed to be that high?)
                              I couldn't find the choke at first. Thought it had auto-choke! Yes, the engine is especially harsh in the mornings.
                              Can the bike be run on choke for a few minutes to warm everything up faster?


                              (vi) No place to keep any stuff. I dont know where to keep the bike papers even. Have been riding without them but that cannot be sustained.
                              have the same problem. Keep papers in my bagpack for the time being. @rachitsharma2000 pls post a solution.


                              (viii) Suspension is quite hard. It really takes a toll on your body on bad roads. I feel too tired after even 10 km of bad roads. Again this is adjustable, but again cant trust bajaj svc to do anything good with the bike. so living with it for now.
                              I believe the mono-shock can be softened. I will ask the SVC for the same for a more plush ride.
                              I feel the grips to be very hard on the hands. Hands start paining in b2b traffic. What can be done?


                              (x) Initially the engine is very harsh and loud. The engine has gotten better after about 1K Kms, but there are still some noises, probably from the fairing.
                              For me the engine is unbelievably loud and harsh with a lot of vibes (Coming from a Honda). Hopefully it wil reduce with more miles and a FS oil setup.

                              (xi) Finding the neutral!! This is something thats just impossible. When i stop to park i have to go from 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2 atleast 4-5 times and usually 7-8 times to be able to reach neutral. And sometimes even then i dont find it and then my patience runs out and i turn off the key with the clutch pressed. Ive never had an issue of the gear being stuck in neutral while going from 1-N-2 or 2-N-1 like some other people have been facing. It seems that my bike just doesnt want to stop!! ;P (are so many gear shifts 1-2-1-2.... bad for the clytch system/ gears ? should i just kill the engine in gear and then avoid so many useless gear changes and irritation?)
                              I have the opposite problem! I always seem to find neutral while shifting from 1 to 2! Its getting to my nerves now!
                              Should I highlight this during 1st service?


                              (xii) i bet there were more but i seem to have forgotten them. will post when i remember.
                              When i read your post, it was as if someone was speaking my mind! My comments in bold.

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                              • Re: Any Problems/Issues With Pulsar AS 200

                                Originally posted by xttony View Post
                                And as usual Bajaj cut cost everywhere possible, like there is no covering on battery terminals etc.
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                                That's not cost cutting. How can expect a cover for the heat sink? That other terminal is probably negative. Your whole bike is the negative terminal of the battery. There is utterly no point covering that terminal separately. They should have provided a cap for positive terminal though.
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