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**Arijit Dutta** · 06-28-2016, 07:48 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by srp321 View Post

if u are considering RS200, then why not Duke200?

they cost around the same (5-10k variation OTR), whereas, this RTR 200 will cost u around 1.10 OTR

It is one of the reasons why I have an inclination for apache, as it costs less, and having less fairing parts will give less of aftersale services, also the carb variant will be easier to maintain.

After the FZ V1 this is the naked model that I liked so much!

RS200 is the max I would want to pay but the apache entices me with a more complete package, namely (abs on both wheels).
IMO apache with carbs abs and pirelli is the best deal, it will more or less cost around the price of the present Karizma Zmr .

**srp321** · 06-28-2016, 08:46 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

It is one of the reasons why I have an inclination for apache, as it costs less, and having less fairing parts will give less of aftersale services, also the carb variant will be easier to maintain.

After the FZ V1 this is the naked model that I liked so much!

RS200 is the max I would want to pay but the apache entices me with a more complete package, namely (abs on both wheels).
IMO apache with carbs abs and pirelli is the best deal, it will more or less cost around the price of the present Karizma Zmr .

apache with carb and pirelli (without abs), might cost about 1.15L

a few days back, i went to get the quote of avenger street for a friend of mine, and there i saw RS200, the store guy quoted the price to be 1.37L for non abs, and 1.52L for abs,
went to duke store and got the quote for D200 as 1.6L ,

i am confused between RTR200 (need to inspect physically), CBR150 (pricey and lacks better switchgear), RS200 (too heavy and lacks quality), D200 (pricey and requires good maintenance), and money is one of the major constraints, i am waiting for a demo/test drive of rtr, as no store in my city has any till now, previous versions RTR were kind of short for a tall guy like me, and in the new version the dimensions seem to have been changed.

**TVSian** · 06-28-2016, 09:29 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

I'm so hyped about the RTR 200.I will turn 18 next year January,So it's probably gonna be my first bike.I have this bike in the top priority to chose.My purchase will be the Top-end Variant,ABS + Fi and Pirelli Tyres.I'm torn up between almost all the Matt Colours.Matt Red looks seriously Beautiful,Matt White is amazing and stands out,Matt Yellow looks jaw dropping and Matt Black looks like a stealthy killer ! I intend to keep this bike for a very long time,Easily more than a Decade and not modify it even the slightest,Even Stickers won't be allowed,I will maintain it properly.IMHO,I will be mostly using it in the city.Very very little Highway usage.

**Suraj200** · 06-28-2016, 10:20 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by srp321 View Post

apache with carb and pirelli (without abs), might cost about 1.15L

a few days back, i went to get the quote of avenger street for a friend of mine, and there i saw RS200, the store guy quoted the price to be 1.37L for non abs, and 1.52L for abs,
went to duke store and got the quote for D200 as 1.6L ,

i am confused between RTR200 (need to inspect physically), CBR150 (pricey and lacks better switchgear), RS200 (too heavy and lacks quality), D200 (pricey and requires good maintenance), and money is one of the major constraints, i am waiting for a demo/test drive of rtr, as no store in my city has any till now, previous versions RTR were kind of short for a tall guy like me, and in the new version the dimensions seem to have been changed.

The D200 is going to keep you surpurised for a lot a time, if you are thinking of spending 1.5lac approx then D200 is the best performance bike

If going for the RTR 200 then go for the FI version and ABS you can buy Pirellis for the next set

**prateek2210** · 06-28-2016, 10:52 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by TVSian View Post

I'm so hyped about the RTR 200.I will turn 18 next year January,So it's probably gonna be my first bike.I have this bike in the top priority to chose.My purchase will be the Top-end Variant,ABS + Fi and Pirelli Tyres.I'm torn up between almost all the Matt Colours.Matt Red looks seriously Beautiful,Matt White is amazing and stands out,Matt Yellow looks jaw dropping and Matt Black looks like a stealthy killer ! I intend to keep this bike for a very long time,Easily more than a Decade and not modify it even the slightest,Even Stickers won't be allowed,I will maintain it properly.IMHO,I will be mostly using it in the city.Very very little Highway usage.

Also prove everyone wrong who says Teenagers are squids. Do invest in good riding gears and full face helmet.
All the best

**Arijit Dutta** · 06-28-2016, 10:58 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Suraj200 View Post

The D200 is going to keep you surprised for a lot a time, if you are thinking of spending 1.5lac approx then D200 is the best performance bike

If going for the RTR 200 then go for the FI version and ABS you can buy Pirellis for the next set

In kolkata Duke 200 is around 1.8Lacs if i'm not wrong.

Pirelli on the next set is a good thought too, since it will have ABS it will be safer, therefore saving the initial cost when I will need to buy riding gear too.
But why do you suggest the FI version?

from what I thought :
Carb will be easier to maintain

if I encounter any engine problem on the road where TVS mechanics cannot reach, other roadside repair shops will be able to fix it (hopefully).

also not all TVS SVCs are well bred, in which case a carb is easier to work with most mechanics than an FI unit with all the ECU and Injectors and Pumps, all of that.

please share your views

**Suraj200** · 06-28-2016, 11:16 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

In kolkata Duke 200 is around 1.8Lacs if i'm not wrong.

Pirelli on the next set is a good thought too, since it will have ABS it will be safer, therefore saving the initial cost when I will need to buy riding gear too.
But why do you suggest the FI version?

from what I thought :
Carb will be easier to maintain

if I encounter any engine problem on the road where TVS mechanics cannot reach, other roadside repair shops will be able to fix it (hopefully).

also not all TVS SVCs are well bred, in which case a carb is easier to work with most mechanics than an FI unit with all the ECU and Injectors and Pumps, all of that.

please share your views

FI have crisp throttle response and you will love it as compared to carb and FI don't just get break down infact if have service the bike as per manual they tend to last longer than carb as i own a D200 it has not given me any problem, although svc cost is high

I belive that if you can skip a party so that you can svc you bike better then your bike is not going to give you any problem atleast for 5 years

**Ram Shankar Ramasamy** · 06-28-2016, 11:31 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

My friend took delivery of this matte red color last week... B-) B-) RTR with GT-R

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**roamer** · 06-28-2016, 11:37 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Ram Shankar Ramasamy View Post

My friend took delivery of this matte red color last week... B-) B-) RTR with GT-R

Cool . Which city?

**Ram Shankar Ramasamy** · 06-28-2016, 11:46 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

In Chennai bro..

**Arijit Dutta** · 06-28-2016, 11:59 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Suraj200 View Post

FI have crisp throttle response and you will love it as compared to carb and FI don't just get break down infact if have service the bike as per manual they tend to last longer than carb as i own a D200 it has not given me any problem, although svc cost is high

I belive that if you can skip a party so that you can svc you bike better then your bike is not going to give you any problem atleast for 5 years

Im a by the books guy, so I will do everything as per the manual, therefore if you say the fi unit will last longer then that is going be my choice.
I atleast want to ride this for 5 years and more if the bike permits, so I will take utmost care of it.

**srp321** · 06-29-2016, 12:21 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Suraj200 View Post

The D200 is going to keep you surpurised for a lot a time, if you are thinking of spending 1.5lac approx then D200 is the best performance bike

If going for the RTR 200 then go for the FI version and ABS you can buy Pirellis for the next set

that is considerable, but the FI+ABS version would add around 15-20k easily on the bike (maybe more), adding a few more to the cost, one could get D200 which will have liquid cooling and a 6th gear as well.

But, sadly, as mentioned previously, D200 does require good attention to servicing, which is only downside i observe as of now (apart from the high price tag of 1.6L OTR), and the pillion is really not comfortable on this.

Offnote: sometimes i think i would be better off with a btwin cycle as i have been waiting from past 2 months to even get an update from the store people as to get some concrete date on which they will have the bike for TD, or even showcase, few of the store guys act like i have asked some undefined model number when i ask then about RTR200

**Punto@bang** · 06-29-2016, 01:47 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

TVS is at it worst time still after 6 months of launch no dealer knows when the top end will arrive

.
I have visited more than 5 times and still doesn't have the answer.
But these dealers want to make some quick money and always force to book it.
what a shame God save those investors.

**anurag2028** · 06-29-2016, 02:05 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Ram Shankar Ramasamy View Post

In Chennai bro..

Is this the base variant (carb+remora+non-abs)?? What was the waiting period?

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Originally posted by Punto@bang View Post

TVS is at it worst time still after 6 months of launch no dealer knows when the top end will arrive

.
I have visited more than 5 times and still doesn't have the answer.
But these dealers want to make some quick money and always force to book it.
what a shame God save those investors.

In Hyderabad, I have visited twice and called up numerous times one of the major TVS dealers and they give dubious replies as to when I might get the matte red version. The sales guy keeps telling please take the white or grey since they are readily available. Latest he told me that black will be delivered to me within 8-10 days of booking and matte red might take 2-3 months. TVS surely knows how to irritate prospective customers. Now I am considering going for AS200 primarily because of this attitude of the company.

**dineshaugustin** · 06-29-2016, 07:10 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V

Originally posted by Arijit Dutta View Post

In kolkata Duke 200 is around 1.8Lacs if i'm not wrong.

Pirelli on the next set is a good thought too, since it will have ABS it will be safer, therefore saving the initial cost when I will need to buy riding gear too.
But why do you suggest the FI version?

from what I thought :
Carb will be easier to maintain

if I encounter any engine problem on the road where TVS mechanics cannot reach, other roadside repair shops will be able to fix it (hopefully).

also not all TVS SVCs are well bred, in which case a carb is easier to work with most mechanics than an FI unit with all the ECU and Injectors and Pumps, all of that.

please share your views

Few people would prefer carb bikes because we can play with tuning and can get different response from the bike as per ones liking. but in FI version we cant do anything. But one thing to notice is that if you know well about carb tunning, then it is going to be fine or otherwise if the mechanic changed the tuning by mistake during service and if the performance/mileage is not satisfactory then u got to solely rely on mechanic and with some luck you may get the tuning which you prefer. So having carb may give headache sometimes and not to mention the cold start if it happens.

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