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  • Hello guys im facing a peculiar problem. My RTR was facing a problem where the bike would come in Reserve but i wouldn't realize it as there would be no hiccups,but as i would come to a stand still the engine would shut down,at this point if you give a little accelerator and hit the starter switch the bike will start again.I have even changed the fuel cock in warranty but the issue still remains.
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    • Originally posted by vineshp View Post
      +1 to Abhii.

      Tru4 is good for it's price. If we want, let the SVC change the oil and we can replace it outside. You'll lose 230Rs but will get the oil you want. If TVS had opted a high-quality, pricey oil as a std, then guess we'll yell that it's too costly!

      Every manufacturer insists on a particular make/grade oil. That's fine till warranty period as if a problem arises, mfg. can be sure it's not due to the oil in use.
      No need for that too. Just tell them don't change the oil and you will get it changed on your own. With a little good relationship with SVC guys they wont even bring this into warranty issue. And moreover using recommended grade oil wont void the warranty, that's for sure.
      TVS Tru4 premium is of good quality.
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      Originally posted by harishmenace View Post
      Are you sure about the price, SVC guys charged me 320Rs for the oil, I was told it is tvs tru 4t premium, new oil with new technology from TVS
      Ask them to show the booklet where prices are mentioned. Or the price on the pack..
      Last edited by Abhii46; 03-01-2012, 02:59 PM.
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      • Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
        Jaago Graahak Jaago.
        C'mon bro, nobody can force you to use what you dont want.
        I agree (but they are saying till free services, you must use tru4 and that's OK to me. If they'll insist even in paid services then I'll do something about this.
        If you dont want to use TVS oil dont use it.
        If you want to use it then use it.
        Just FYI, I have used Shell Semi Synthetic, cost 330(approx), it is a very good oil. Smoother ride , no vibs for atleast 1500kms. I have also used Shell AX3(mineral) oil, price 230(approx), which is almost same as that of TVS oil. Vibes started coming at 500kms and ride quality is not as good as it was with Shell AX7. So I really dont see why TVS oil becomes crap here or maybe we can call Shell AX3 as Shell Crap3( which I really dont want, because I dont expect its performance to be as good as that of AX7).
        Well gulf pride 4t is 230 and much much better than the tru4. Also try shell ax5 mineral and not ax3 because ax3 is not meant for rtr.
        Same goes for the tires. They just cost around 3k a pair. If you dont want to use them just change it.
        Agreed if one is ok with the grip it offers then it's a much better choice because it lasts longer, BTW 4k is enough for a much better pair of MRF
        Let me tell you, when I realised that it is not the problem with tires but with my riding I improved my riding, and now I'm pretty confident with the tires. After going for 30k kms with stock tires I again got TVS tyre.
        Agreed!
        P.S. When I give my bike for servicing I get a Shell oil (if I want) from the Shell petrolpump and asked SVC guys to not to change the oil. While I go back there to take my bike after servicing has been done I ask them to change the oil now.
        I have used TVS oil for almost 25k kms and never complained. Not even my friends who dont use "Xbhp". They are also fine with the oil. And if one wants a better performance then one has to shell out more money.
        As I told above, some oils are priced similar to tru4 and are much much better. If my friends are happier with their iphone 4 then that doesn't make it better than Samsung galaxy s2
        TVS Tru4 premium is of good quality.
        TRU4 Premium 4T 10W30 Engine Oil by TVS | Indiaon2wheels
        Where does it say that it's good
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        • Originally posted by cs1183 View Post
          Also try shell ax5 mineral and not ax3 because ax3 is not meant for rtr
          AX3 is not meant for RTR? Who said that. It is a mineral oil with recommended ratings and price is same as that of TVS's oil.

          Originally posted by cs1183 View Post
          4k is enough for a much better pair of MRF
          It depends upon personal experience but I don't find MRF tires to be better, they are equally good. My bike's front tyre is of MRF only. I dont find any difference in grip but just a small problem that it feels too soft in the front and many times it makes me feel that bike is running on low tyre pressure.

          Originally posted by cs1183 View Post
          If my friends are happier with their iphone 4 then that doesn't make it better than Samsung galaxy s2
          C'mon bro, Iphone 4(S) is better than Galaxy S2.

          Originally posted by cs1183 View Post
          Where does it say that it's good
          You need to open the link and read what is written. Every where it is written it is good.
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          • Originally posted by New guy View Post
            I agree with tyres part but as far as the oil is concerned luckily I've never faced any problems even on hard ripping/90-100 kph for almost all day.
            Buddy RTR is a great bike so it can be ripped all day. But here we are talking of quality (read smoothness) in which I think other oils are better than tru4.
            Originally posted by vineshp View Post
            Tru4 is good for it's price. If we want, let the SVC change the oil and we can replace it outside. You'll lose 230Rs but will get the oil you want. If TVS had opted a high-quality, pricey oil as a std, then guess we'll yell that it's too costly!

            Every manufacturer insists on a particular make/grade oil. That's fine till warranty period as if a problem arises, mfg. can be sure it's not due to the oil in use.
            Well I don't want to lose 230 Rs everytime. But yes you are right about the price thing. But if i am getting better oil in same price then why should I waste my 230 everytime.
            About forcing oil for warranty period: I think I will change my bike within 3 years of usage so I don't like this policy.
            Originally posted by Makky View Post
            I second your opinion, mate! Even I was a little skeptical about their performance when compared with MRF. But, after riding 15,500kms, I almost know the limits of adhesion of the stock tyres. Now, to shift to MRF and start riding, one 'd take a little while to get used to them. Apache's behaviour is synchronised with what the rider does. If you think you can, you 'd find the grip even if you enter the corner hot. If you panic and grab the brake lever hard, you 'll kiss the tarmac mostly likely. Riding an Apache at higher speeds is like riding a GP bike. You don't ride, you tame!
            Agreed
            Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
            AX3 is not meant for RTR? Who said that. It is a mineral oil with recommended ratings and price is same as that of TVS's oil.
            Read on Shell website, it says AX5 is alot better than AX3 and AX5 is for performance bikes.
            Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
            It depends upon personal experience but I don't find MRF tires to be better, they are equally good. My bike's front tyre is of MRF only. I dont find any difference in grip but just a small problem that it feels too soft in the front and many times it makes me feel that bike is running on low tyre pressure.
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            Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
            C'mon bro, Iphone 4(S) is better than Galaxy S2.
            No comments again!
            Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
            You need to open the link and read what is written. Every where it is written it is good.
            Sorry but I still don't find anywhere that it is a better oil and moreover it's just a release information that tvs posted while releasing tru4 premium and the same is shown in this website. Whatever the website shows, is that it's a bike's oil and can be used in bikes like rtr but it doesn't say it's better than others

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            • Originally posted by cs1183 View Post
              Buddy RTR is a great bike so it can be ripped all day. But here we are talking of quality (read smoothness) in which I think other oils are better than tru4.

              Well I don't want to lose 230 Rs everytime. But yes you are right about the price thing. But if i am getting better oil in same price then why should I waste my 230 everytime.
              About forcing oil for warranty period: I think I will change my bike within 3 years of usage so I don't like this policy.

              Agreed

              Read on Shell website, it says AX5 is alot better than AX3 and AX5 is for performance bikes.

              No comments
              No comments again!

              Sorry but I still don't find anywhere that it is a better oil and moreover it's just a release information that tvs posted while releasing tru4 premium and the same is shown in this website. Whatever the website shows, is that it's a bike's oil and can be used in bikes like rtr but it doesn't say it's better than others
              I said "good", not "better".
              Peace.
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              • Originally posted by A4D View Post
                Hello guys im facing a peculiar problem. My RTR was facing a problem where the bike would come in Reserve but i wouldn't realize it as there would be no hiccups,but as i would come to a stand still the engine would shut down,at this point if you give a little accelerator and hit the starter switch the bike will start again.I have even changed the fuel cock in warranty but the issue still remains.
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                Originally posted by Abhii46 View Post
                I said "good", not "better".
                Peace.
                ok buddy. end of topic!

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                • Originally posted by Makky View Post
                  I almost know the limits of adhesion of the stock tyres. Now, to shift to MRF and start riding, one 'd take a little while to get used to them. Apache's behaviour is synchronised with what the rider does. If you think you can, you 'd find the grip even if you enter the corner hot. If you panic and grab the brake lever hard, you 'll kiss the tarmac mostly likely. Riding an Apache at higher speeds is like riding a GP bike. You don't ride, you tame!
                  I had always tried to present this exact thing here but couldnt have done in a better way as mentioned above to people who blamed the tyres only.

                  And i agree that MRF is better than TVS but only in wet conditions.Rest the rider has to take care of everything. Even the MRF skids under hard braking but i have learnt the art of avoiding it.

                  Note: Under panic braking(particularly in wet conditions), even the world's best'est tyre/brakes/chassis wont save you when you are caught up in an extremely unavoidable situation. Always pray not to get yourself caught up in those situation where only your luck can save you.

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                  • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                    I had always tried to present this exact thing here but couldnt have done in a better way as mentioned above to people who blamed the tyres only.
                    Totally agree! Than again you need to be a wee bit careful with the Stock tires. Especially on Indian roads.

                    Under panic braking(particularly in wet conditions), even the world's best'est tyre/brakes/chassis wont save you when you are caught up in an extremely unavoidable situation.
                    Even the Mighty Pirelli skids quite a bit on wet roads, if not braked properly.
                    Sure.. Go ahead. I'll be lookin back in a few seconds.

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                    • I have a question for all RTR owners: Does your front disc brake make any kind of screeching noise when applied?

                      SVC guys have still been unable to fix it.
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                      • Nope. Get the disk and the disk pads cleaned.
                        Sure.. Go ahead. I'll be lookin back in a few seconds.

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                        • review on year old MENACE

                          ITZ been a year with my pearl white menace
                          365days 17500km on odo
                          137km/hr hi speed (odo)
                          0-60 3.6sec (odo)
                          milage 38-42

                          Maintenance
                          just periodic service
                          no extra cost and no single penny spent in crash's

                          OIL used truCRAP,shell,gulf....(gulf is pretty much smooth compared to shell)

                          TYRES -m really happy with tyre TVS tyres it is really great in hard brakeing ive stoped from 120-0 in no time just the screaching sound i do hard corners too n guys in wet i was fearing for worst whenever i twist my wrist in wet coz of ppl saying tvs tyres sucks in wet...but i just had a drag in wet conditon with p220 n r15.tvs had the same grip as MRF did a wide corner in wet at 130 yet i dint felt any thing (8000km old tyre) i had crashes i love tvs tyres guys (personal exprnce)

                          overall
                          no issue with my MENACE i love the brakeing.....

                          warrenty claimed for bore piston just becoz of my mistake kudos to TVS guys ive lost my manual,and i was running low on oil and i busted my piston (happend becoz of svc) except this my ride is still rock solid no drop in performance no hiccups nothing

                          P.S please check oil level before going for ride....plz plz check oil level







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                          • Originally posted by Makky View Post
                            I second your opinion, mate! Even I was a little skeptical about their performance when compared with MRF. But, after riding 15,500kms, I almost know the limits of adhesion of the stock tyres. Now, to shift to MRF and start riding, one 'd take a little while to get used to them. Apache's behaviour is synchronised with what the rider does. If you think you can, you 'd find the grip even if you enter the corner hot. If you panic and grab the brake lever hard, you 'll kiss the tarmac mostly likely. Riding an Apache at higher speeds is like riding a GP bike. You don't ride, you tame!
                            The RTR's Stock tyres are in no way crap... As in, if you see some riders complaining, one would think the tyres are unrideable... The same case goes with the Oil... If they were really that bad, the company wouldnt use them...

                            With the tyres, hard braking is not the only criterion in which to measure how good they are... RTR s tyres are not bad in the sense that one can lean to a good degree with proper throttle control, it would not give nasty surprises.. When the ARE came to Mumbai, most of the participants ran on TVS tyres, including myself. While none of us were blinding fast, the tyres allowed us a good margin of error. My throttle control was pathetic, as in, on-off throttle mid-corner etc. BUt as long as one is careful by not abusing the rear brakes, The TVS tyres can take a lot thrown at them, and they are definitely very good enough for road use.

                            The only difference I would say between better better tyres like the R15 ones or the IRC and the TVS ones, is the feel when one is leaned over at real high speeds. Speeds which are simply not possible on public roads. You would need a track to appreciate the differences between the two tyres. If you ride on a track, it will be eye-opening... the abilities of the R15 tyres...

                            But, on public roads, even with a reasonable amount of hard riding, it is very difficult to over-ride the TVS tyres capabilities.. They are not as bad as people portray them to be...

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                            • Originally posted by A4D View Post
                              Hello guys im facing a peculiar problem. My RTR was facing a problem where the bike would come in Reserve but i wouldn't realize it as there would be no hiccups,but as i would come to a stand still the engine would shut down,at this point if you give a little accelerator and hit the starter switch the bike will start again.I have even changed the fuel cock in warranty but the issue still remains.
                              Me too having the same issue. But this started happening after I installed a Petrol lock. Will check out with mech.
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                              • Guys, I'm gonna drain TruCrap and fill up either Shell AX5 20w40 (again) or Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20w40 (Mineral). Which one should I opt for? I mean which one is the best amongst these two?
                                Last edited by iChaitanya; 03-02-2012, 12:22 PM.
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