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  • #121
    Originally posted by rockinggokul View Post
    yes ur right nothing more than just:

    30cc,2.602ps
    split seats
    split handles
    split grab rails
    o ring chain
    120 rear tyres
    tubeless tyres ,both front and back
    220/avengers swingarm
    220's front fork
    kickless ala 200,220
    larger disks(thanks nashdrivin!)

    and weight a few kilos more thats all!!


    is tht so dude.....
    i never knew tht.........

    thank god u didnt included bigger jets in the carb too.....

    dude just go to the reply the guy gave and my ans was accordin to tht only...
    othrwise i would have given the list of changes the RTR180 sports......

    Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
    you're absolutely right. the zapper-y is the worst tyre in india. as bad as the tvs ones. back in the day of cbz (classic) and karizma the zapper-y was the bone of contention with the dunlop geo-cruiser (it was called something else back then) emerging clearly superior. partly due to the centre groove and partly due to a better tread and compound. not that the cruiser didn't last. best indian tyre of all time hands-down.
    +1 but i'm not able to find it in 110\80 size.....


    Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
    but the new mrfs are a world apart man. the ones one the r-15 are probably the best tyres in india today and looks like the new p220s are gonna get the same compound too. dunno about the Q personally, but the zapper-c which is doing duty on all the pulsars these days is another marvel. not as good as the geo but probably the 3rd best indian tyre.
    i had the Q in my fiero it's very good tyre both in wet as well as in dry....
    i think p220 dtsi sports the same compond as in r15,,,i'm not sure about it but tht's what guys at overdrive indicated.....



    Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
    the 180s rear tyres probably just feel better because of the extra mm. nothing else.

    it is a HUGE shame how bad the tyres are, anyone who hasn't changed them simply doesn't know what the rtr is capable of.

    remember ate 180's tyres have TVS written on them.......

    i agree the RTR is capable of shreddin the hell outta it's peg provided with sticky rubber....
    The Magician"

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    • #122
      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
      but i'm not able to find it in 110\80 size.....

      i had the Q in my fiero it's very good tyre both in wet as well as in dry....
      i think p220 dtsi sports the same compond as in r15,,,i'm not sure about it but tht's what guys at overdrive indicated.....
      hmm, if you think the Q is good enough then that should be the best bet.

      i've seen the geo-cruiser in 100/90 and 120/80. not sure about 110 sizes.

      best thing about the p220 is that the front is 90/90. so we wont have to settle for the 80/90 r15 front and will still get a great compound.

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      • #123
        Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

        best thing about the p220 is that the front is 90/90. so we wont have to settle for the 80/90 r15 front and will still get a great compound.

        abso..........
        The Magician"

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        • #124
          i will be buying an Apache 180 within the next two weeks. but what im seeing here is people talking about how bad the stock TVS tyres are. So what do u guys suggest? Should i change the tyres? I will only have money to change the rear one while buying the bike so will that be sufficient? And how will the R15 rear tyre be?
          You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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          • #125
            Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
            i will be buying an Apache 180 within the next two weeks. but what im seeing here is people talking about how bad the stock TVS tyres are. So what do u guys suggest? Should i change the tyres? I will only have money to change the rear one while buying the bike so will that be sufficient? And how will the R15 rear tyre be?
            I also had almost same doubts though I am not sure if I'll really get a bike (as my parents got dead against the bike and asking to buy a car instead ).
            Though R15 tyre is supposed to be great but it is 10cm wide instead of stock 110cm. How about 80/120 MRF vyde, will it fit? How's that tyre overall? Looks good .. but any first hand exp.?

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            • #126
              Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
              And how will the R15 rear tyre be?
              Perfect.

              Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
              I also had almost same doubts though I am not sure if I'll really get a bike (as my parents got dead against the bike and asking to buy a car instead ).
              why don't you tell them you want to buy a cbr1000rr ? costs more than most cars.
              Last edited by julianpaul; 07-01-2009, 07:59 AM.

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              • #127
                Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                i will be buying an Apache 180 within the next two weeks. but what im seeing here is people talking about how bad the stock TVS tyres are. So what do u guys suggest? Should i change the tyres? I will only have money to change the rear one while buying the bike so will that be sufficient? And how will the R15 rear tyre be?
                R15 tyre will give you better grip but you will lose out on some height because of the lower aspect ratio and the tyre would also not go well with the bike as far as looks are concerned(read:thinner)!!

                My advice would be ride the bike with the stock tyres for couple of thousand kms, if you are a good rider than you can easily make out what to do and what not to do.I hope you got the drift!!

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                • #128
                  Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                  My advice would be ride the bike with the stock tyres for couple of thousand kms, if you are a good rider than you can easily make out what to do and what not to do.I hope you got the drift!!
                  +1

                  beside how would you know the benifit of the new tyre (R15) if ur using it from the word go. Use the stock tyres for couple of thousands of kms and then shift to r15 tyres.....u'll rediscover RTR and u'll be excited again
                  07 HH Zma
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                  14 Ford Figo 1.4 TDCI (Now Caged:( )
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                  11 CBR 250R

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                  • #129
                    Lolz, loads of tyre discussions going on the Apache thread!

                    My 0.02 rupees.... A tyre is as bad is the rider! You have to know the limitations of your tyres and be within those boundaries. Pushing the envelope of performance of the tyres and a resultant crash is entirely the fault of the rider.

                    I do agree TVS tyres are sucky, I too felt the difference when I changed my Dio's MRF's to TVS. But it would be too much expect of a tyre to grip as much in gravel and water as much as it grips on dry tarmac. If one wants grip in either of the above conditions it would be better to switch to a tyre more suited to the purpose.

                    With regards to dry tarmac grip of the Apache tyres, I feel its pretty damn good.

                    If one can conclusively blame the tyres as the sole reason for falling of a biike then I guess TVS can taken to court!
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                    • #130
                      Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
                      Nice pics and congrats......from when have the delivery started in bangy?

                      And what tyre is that grey RTR running on?
                      Front tyre is the same as RTR 160, Rear tyre is 110/70 R17

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                      • #131
                        Originally posted by prafultripathy View Post
                        Lolz, loads of tyre discussions going on the Apache thread!

                        My 0.02 rupees.... A tyre is as bad is the rider! You have to know the limitations of your tyres and be within those boundaries. Pushing the envelope of performance of the tyres and a resultant crash is entirely the fault of the rider.

                        I do agree TVS tyres are sucky, I too felt the difference when I changed my Dio's MRF's to TVS. But it would be too much expect of a tyre to grip as much in gravel and water as much as it grips on dry tarmac. If one wants grip in either of the above conditions it would be better to switch to a tyre more suited to the purpose.

                        With regards to dry tarmac grip of the Apache tyres, I feel its pretty damn good.

                        If one can conclusively blame the tyres as the sole reason for falling of a biike then I guess TVS can taken to court!
                        dio's MRF's used to skid a lot at wet...
                        i owned it for 4 years... but on dry they were so good tht i changed my centre stand twice cuz i scrapped the hell outta it....

                        TVS tyres are good in dry....with 5 psi less at both ends...
                        but in dry with less and recommended pressure both my skid count is 5 in this rains in my FI....
                        Last edited by rennycornelius; 07-01-2009, 01:18 PM.
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                        • #132
                          Originally posted by chauhan_saurabh View Post
                          +1
                          Good catch man .. looks like FZ type tubeless radial tyre ..

                          Congrats man ... Pics are superb ... what's the OTR?
                          its 73,645/- OTR.

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                          • #133
                            Originally posted by Tron05 View Post
                            is this bike fuel injected?
                            what else has been upgraded from the older version?
                            It's not the FI.
                            The rear tyre has been changed to 110/80 R17
                            Will update regarding the performance shorlty.

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                            • #134
                              Originally posted by kaushik View Post
                              its 73,645/- OTR.
                              What about the tyre on the other gray apache in your pics?

                              Originally posted by kaushik View Post
                              It's not the FI.
                              The rear tyre has been changed to 110/80 R17
                              Will update regarding the performance shorlty.
                              As far as I know it's not Radial but Tubeless.

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                              • #135
                                Day 3: Run in to TALAKADU

                                Hello Guys,
                                Sorry for late reply,was busy with work.

                                Day 3 from date of delivery : Me and my cousin been to TALAKADU mainly for run in.
                                Bikes: RTR 160 and RTR 180
                                ===RTR 180===

                                Odo reading:550kms done in 4 days.
                                Done with 1st service.
                                Top speed: 125 Kmph on speedo.
                                Efficiency: Around 35 Kmpl.
                                Braking: May be best in class. Discs on both front and rear.
                                Handling: Best for tracks. better than RTR 160.

                                The bike is Vibe free till about 8K RPM and above that its same like the 160(considerably less tough). Vibration dampers on the handle are bigger than the RTR 160 can be noticed easily.
                                Errors in the speedometer have been fixed and a new feature of logging the TOP speed(its a menu on the speedometer) has been added.
                                Exhaust note is a treat to the ears (for me).
                                Tyres : Both front and rear are 17 inch rims, front 90/80 and rear 110/80
                                Will post the pics of the ride very soon.

                                All together a GREAT BIKE!!!

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