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  • Waiting for ABS version...........hope it comes early..............

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    • Bike got screwed

      Guys gone for a long trip and when returning back came to know that my bike's heart is slowly and slowly dying.
      Went to a long 1200+ kms hill trip and while returning heard weired metal crankling sound from the engine. It was late at night and still had to cover 300 kms to reach home. Looked for a doctor to show her but all in vain.
      So ride her back to home with fear in heart that she can give up anytime in the middle of long lone highway but she didnt. Reached home and shown to a mech, he said there is no Engine oil and the bike is running completely dry and can seize anytime.
      The first thing came in mind WTF , howcome this happened. It was 2k kms since last engine oil change or the TVS SVC didn't put any engine oil after gear bearing work.
      I felt like for all these 2k kms i was slow posioning her. I was such a fool that neither bothered to check the engine oil in the whole trip even once .
      I was riding her hard all this time and she never shown a sign of her sufferings.
      Took her today to TVS SVC, was so pissed off that i would have hit hard the mech who have worked on her last time. Somehow controlled.
      The mech there checked the exhaust and found thick carbon deposits in the exhaust and said, all the engine oil might have burnt along with fuel.

      I told them that i got done all bike services from there SVC and they should have checked the things and they again started giving there lame excuses like it happens with time and all those bu**s**t.
      Later they said Cylinder kit need to be changed(which will be under warranty) but i have to wait for some 15+ days, as like always, the things are not in Stock .

      I am still waiting for replacement of rear left shocker which is even after 10 days waiting not in stock.

      They dont even keep the bare minimum requirement parts
      Now i have to again go through the tiring process of running
      For the time being they are going to put engine oil and suggested me to ride less and keep a check on engine oil level.

      Guys is there anything else or any other part could have damaged badly along with the cylinder kit which i could get replaced?

      The only thing which is positive here is because of my regular servicing, dont have to pay for the parts but have to pay for the labour only.

      It seems to me as a never ending iterations with the SVC.
      Hoping for good and lets see what comes up next.

      PS: Guys keep a check of the thick carbon deposit inside the exhaust as the above can happen with anybody who is getting bike serviced from SVC.
      Last edited by flyingJian; 01-28-2011, 03:42 PM.

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      • ^^ EXACTLY what happened to me three weeks back!!!! Down to the last oil change!!!
        Bro..... find out what all has been damaged. In my case, the cylinder kit and crank. They are to be replaced. Like you said, no spares. Been waiting for them for three weeks now. Today they said crank has arrived, but cylinder kit is on the way.

        And better DONT ride it! I dont know what sort of cruel ppl they are asking you to keep riding it!!!! Modern-age man-eaters maybe!! HUH.

        Also, the culprit could be the valve guide oil seal. Get it checked/replaced. BTW, what oil were you using? How much on the odo?
        Last edited by lijok; 01-28-2011, 05:16 PM.

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        • Originally posted by lijok View Post
          ^^ EXACTLY what happened to me three weeks back!!!! Down to the last oil change!!!
          Bro..... find out what all has been damaged. In my case, the cylinder kit and crank. They are to be replaced. Like you said, no spares. Been waiting for them for three weeks now. Today they said crank has arrived, but cylinder kit is on the way.

          And better DONT ride it! I dont know what sort of cruel ppl they are asking you to keep riding it!!!! Modern-age man-eaters maybe!! HUH.
          What is the acceptable level of oil or minimum so that these things can be avoided ?

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          • Originally posted by lazyfrog View Post
            What is the acceptable level of oil or minimum so that these things can be avoided ?
            You can use the dip stick to check the level of oil. It should be within the hashed area.

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            • Originally posted by lijok View Post
              ^^ EXACTLY what happened to me three weeks back!!!! Down to the last oil change!!!
              Bro..... find out what all has been damaged. In my case, the cylinder kit and crank. They are to be replaced. Like you said, no spares. Been waiting for them for three weeks now. Today they said crank has arrived, but cylinder kit is on the way.

              And better DONT ride it! I dont know what sort of cruel ppl they are asking you to keep riding it!!!! Modern-age man-eaters maybe!! HUH.

              Also, the culprit could be the valve guide oil seal. Get it checked/replaced. BTW, what oil were you using? How much on the odo?
              Brother i have been using TVS engine oil only on every service and the bike has clocked 20k kms. The SVC mech didnt open the engine, they just heard the sound and as i told them that there is no engine oil, they checked it too and just said the cylinder kit need to be replaced.

              They didnt check anything else for the time being.
              But I have doubt that may be other parts also got damaged. Now while riding bike is making to much crankling sound.

              One more thing is that, i dont understand, where the whole litre of engine oil disappeared. Never saw any black smoke nor the engine oil is leaking to much from the seals.
              And it is also very difficult to digest that they never put any oil and the bike sustained for 2k kms before this breakdown.

              They told me that parts wont be available before 15 to 20 days(will be coming from Chennai). Its ridiculous man.
              I am damm pissed off and thinking of writing to TVS officials for this huge delay and some of the SVC staff.

              I am still not able to figure out whats gone wrong even after regular services and stoke condition.

              @lijok have you talked to any higher officail regarding this delay in parts?

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              • Originally posted by flyingJian View Post

                They didnt check anything else for the time being.
                But I have doubt that may be other parts also got damaged. Now while riding bike is making to much crankling sound.
                I am still not able to figure out whats gone wrong even after regular services and stoke condition.
                @lijok have you talked to any higher officail regarding this delay in parts?
                You have suffered the same fate as lijok ...long drives at high RPM had led to the engine oil being consumed....
                Ask the Mechs to check for Crankshaft bearing wear out...A bearing which runs at high revolution without lubrication is bound to wear and get damaged...
                When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                • @flyingJian - open you Aix filter box and see if there is any oily deposits at the bottom of the box.

                  Also, if there is smoke in the exhaust, they dont need to open up the engine to know that the piston rings are gone and cylinder wall is scored badly.
                  and yeah, the crankshaft also needs to be checked. Most probably that will also need to be replaced.

                  And let me repeat, dont ride the bike in present condition. It will only cause more harm.

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                  • Originally posted by psr View Post
                    You have suffered the same fate as lijok ...long drives at high RPM had led to the engine oil being consumed....
                    Ask the Mechs to check for Crankshaft bearing wear out...A bearing which runs at high revolution without lubrication is bound to wear and get damaged...

                    Originally posted by lijok View Post
                    @flyingJian - open you Aix filter box and see if there is any oily deposits at the bottom of the box.

                    Also, if there is smoke in the exhaust, they dont need to open up the engine to know that the piston rings are gone and cylinder wall is scored badly.
                    and yeah, the crankshaft also needs to be checked. Most probably that will also need to be replaced.

                    And let me repeat, dont ride the bike in present condition. It will only cause more harm.
                    Yes i use to ride at high RPMs in long stretches and have seen the effect of that on Cylinder gasket(oil deposits).

                    Recently i got gear bearing changed from SVC. I have to again go to the SVC and get the Crankshaft checked.
                    Thanks for the above information guys.

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                    • Finally Mine...

                      Hi Guys,
                      I got my White Menace today! I'd like to thanks each one of you who has posted here, as I went through almost 200+ pages of this thread before I booked the Apache RTR 180.
                      The bike was delivered to me yesterday at 7PM and I only managed to ride it for 1.5 KMS as I had to go to office (TVS showroom is right in front of my office ). Finally found time today morning and rode the bike for 45 kms(Check out the pics below !!). I have just one thing to say.. WOWWW !!! What a bike it is! But the speed restriction (until 1000 kms) is killing me. Anyways, patience is what I need. I will post on my experience about a week or so from now. Until then, Happy and Safe riding to me and all the RTRians !!
                      It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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                      • Originally posted by nisnth View Post
                        Hi Guys,
                        I got my White Menace today! I'd like to thanks each one of you who has posted here, as I went through almost 200+ pages of this thread before I booked the Apache RTR 180.
                        The bike was delivered to me yesterday at 7PM and I only managed to ride it for 1.5 KMS as I had to go to office (TVS showroom is right in front of my office ). Finally found time today morning and rode the bike for 45 kms(Check out the pics below !!). I have just one thing to say.. WOWWW !!! What a bike it is! But the speed restriction (until 1000 kms) is killing me. Anyways, patience is what I need. I will post on my experience about a week or so from now. Until then, Happy and Safe riding to me and all the RTRians !!
                        Congrats for the mean machine.Pics are just too good. Take it easy on the bike for the first 1000-1500kms and do share your experience with us.

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                        • One amazing bike!

                          Hi all, i too own a Apache RTR 180 pearl white ride. Clocked around 5600km's till now. I'am very happy that i got this bike. Was a little confused first, between the Apache and the Pulsar 180. Anyways, I got this one right. Because of the two, 'Racing Performance', be it the engine, the chassis, brakes, or the design is much superior on the RTR 180 By the way, exhaust note is so unique and sweet Data logging console, very cool. Kudos to Tvs for this ride, which does deliver everything you ask for and even more
                          The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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                          • @Nisnth:Congrats for your bike & some nice clicks there.

                            Update:Got rid of that 'kut-kut sound finally a few days ago.I got adjusted the chain by my mechanic.The chain was perhaps too tight.He loosened it a little.Removed the gear box cover & cleaned it from inside & the front sprocket too as there was muck accumulated.Oiled the chain with SAE-90 gear oil & the noise disappeared.

                            D.I.Y-Valve clearance setting RTR180
                            D.I.Y-RTR180 brake fluid replacing/brake bleeding
                            D.I.Y-RTR180 brake pad replacing/cleaning
                            Exploded view of Mikuni BS-29 carb

                            A motorcycle functions entirely in accordance with the laws of reason, and a study of the art of motorcycle maintenance is really a miniature study of the art of rationality itself.

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                            • Originally posted by nisnth View Post
                              Hi Guys,
                              I got my White Menace today!
                              congrats dude and welcome to the Tribe...
                              and yes, pics are too good...
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                              Do you know, what your bike says about you?
                              -Check out-
                              Bike Sayings
                              &
                              ME

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                              • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                                Congrats for the mean machine.Pics are just too good. Take it easy on the bike for the first 1000-1500kms and do share your experience with us.
                                Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                                @Nisnth:Congrats for your bike & some nice clicks there.
                                Originally posted by badbikerboy View Post
                                congrats dude and welcome to the Tribe...
                                and yes, pics are too good...

                                Thanks all of you !! Looking forward to have a great experience with my Fair Lady. Btw, I rode some 110 kms today within the City (Bangalore) !
                                .
                                It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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