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Not only you everyone's profile showing rusted.

Leave it, that o-ring is fine. Cost for original o-ring is very high Rs.735 and not Rs.13 http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post862321

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WTFFFF !! noway that single o ring costs 735 !!! It probably costs around 20rs max.

Yes we are all rusted now and need some sandblasting and a coat of paint

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@paul
There might be some mistake in the price list as the Carburetor assembly itself costs around Rs.1800/-.


@Sid
Sandblasting and paint coat- LOL.

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Paul da , you completely shocked me by price of an o ring , 735 for a ring ? Isn't that too much, almost half of carb price is a ring lol . Can you please cross check that as i will be cleaning mine splendor's carb next week and will be changing rings as they are damaged.

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Paul da , you completely shocked me by price of an o ring , 735 for a ring ? Isn't that too much, almost half of carb price is a ring lol . Can you please cross check that as i will be cleaning mine splendor's carb next week and will be changing rings as they are damaged.

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Yes man its 735. No need to cross check i'm sure about this. You can buy air screw o-ring, its top set cover o-ring and insulator o-ring as a single/separate and these cost 5.50. But u cant buy float bowl o-ring as single piece, its comes as a gasket kit with all the o-rings used in carb. Its part number is 16010-198-901. If each rest of the o-rings cost 5.50 then it means this float o-ring cost about 710~720. I've already asked in ASC and confirmed. If u don't believe u can ask yourself. Don't even throw your old o-ring.

Try different browser. I'm using opera.

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@Sibun
Say something ! Your posts make this thread become alive.

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Yes man you are correct. You solved my problem.
Thank you

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From the photos i see that your emulsification tube holes are looking like it is drilled. I do not know how but i think something was forced inside it while cleaning. And from the photos of your float chamber it is clear that your tank is full of dirt and rust. Clean it as i have mentioned somewhere and use blower of vacuum cleaner to dry the tank.
Also one more suggestion do not go for new jets as the price of jets, along with needle, slide(as yours is slightly worn), and tht o-ring will cost more than new carburettor and performance will be not like new carburettor, instead go for new carburettor, and get its original carburettor, not like me who got splendor carb then went on with experiment changing main jet and needle until i got correct tune.
Also use IFTEX SYSTEM 23 in petrol, i was using and thought it to be waste and after stopping using it for 4 months now i feel the difference. This sunday i will get it from the dealer and use it in my JOY,CBZ, and pleasure.

ROHIT change your browser, as it is causing the problem, i am using opera.
Think is that previously the carb was imported from japan as Keihin didn't had plant here. The carb cost around Rs.4200, nd thus the o-ring Rs. 700. But now since Keihin set its plant in india, carb price has dropped to Rs.1800 and so the o-ring which cost aroung Rs.125. But the dealers have o-ring of japanese make rather than indian as they do not sell. Infact my old crb got changed but the o-ring is still alright. Do not pry open the o-ring while cleaning carb. Let it be fixed there. Once you open it it is gone. I have never touched that o-ring in my old carb.

Man, i was busy as out of six officers in our branch, four are on leve for one week and thus we two are doing the work of six people, as our Manager is useless and instead is busy in pleasing his boss by trying to do work through us. But i was looking at the threads and have tried to reply when any one needs help.
I have faced this problems so i know it very well. On another note my front drums are worn out as they are same as factory ones and have lasted for almost 3.2 lacs or more, but the rear is better than new, it brakes so good that extreme with 130mm rear drum cannot brake as good as its 110 mm drum. One slight touch will feel like disc brake.
Next month i am thinking of changing the front drum and will fit bigger drums of super splendor at front. I do not know what company thought while giving 110 mm drum in joy at front as Joy is very heavy and also front end is lower than splendor giving it load on front brakes. I will change to bigger drum in front most probably by next month as i have tested the front drum by opening my fathers splendor front wheel and fitting it on my front part as it fit perfectly with present forks. Only i have to change these items:-
1. Front drum,
2. Front drum plte,
3. Front brake cam and cam lever,
4. Front spokes as Joy has longer spoke,
5. Front pinion as the present pinion is five years old and will most probably worn.

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@Shoeb
Where are your updates man? Did u make piston holder for your fork? Did u change the oil? What u've done with your fork pipes?
And did u replaced the gears of your factory passion?

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I haven't started any work on splendor.
I am busy with some personal work and apart from that ,this week I was busy servicing uncle's Fiesta(procuring the spares of Ford itself is a pain in the a$$),had to take it to different places to get touch-ups,interior cleaning etc..
Now its my Indigo's turn and requires immediate attention.
So no work will be carried out on splendor in the coming two weeks.

Sorry,I might have forgot to update it in this thread( had PM'd Sibun about this).
Passion was repaired and sold to the supervisor at our factory (sold on 24/3/2013).
Upon opening the engine,it was found that the shifter fork's tab which moves the gear was completely nonexistent.In-fact in place of that tab,there was a deep grove. Replaced it along with some other parts and consumables.(That shifter fork is lying somewhere in the store room,I will post the pictures of it in a few days)

I feel so embarrassed,I always ask others to update but I only forgot to update.

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Now I am quite scared by the pricing of that ring too . I have serviced my carburetor only once yet ( in the first year , gum owing to stale petrol used ) . At that time I had taken out that ring carefully , cleaned it with kero and and soap , then fixed it back with dendrite . It was affixed with some similar glue from factory . The carb is due for cleaning again this year . This time I won't be touching the bowl o-ring again . Also mine doesn't look like paul's pic , it has perfect round cross-section .





But the question arises if it would be safe to use carb-cleaner (acetone) with that rubber ring still in position . Acetone destroys rubber .

About the brakes , I am with Yamaha's policy of using 130mm drums on both wheels their bikes I have used untill now , then the brake shoes and parts are common between the wheels and it results in excellent braking too . Rear brakes of the Splendor should also have been 130 , I feel daily . Well anyway how do you change brake drum ? I have no idea about it ... please tell me .
Splendor is running so perfectly now that I just fill petrol and air the tyres and oil the chain once a week . Bass it runs and runs smooth .

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Don't worry. If you ever happen to damage that o-ring ,replace it with a local one (TOP is one such company)every time you remove the float bowl. Rs.10 ~15/- for entire carb o-ring kit.

I am very much happy with the stock rear brakes. The asbestos brake shoes have taken almost 5,000kms to settle. Now a touch to the pedal is all it needs to lock the rear wheel.
To change the drum,one needs to take the wheel to a rim/wheel truing guy who can remove and replace the drum by removing the spokes. Bigger drum will require shorter spokes.

I think Paul has used carb cleaner(containing acetone),otherwise that o-ring can be used two three times. Please confirm.

Similarly,resurfacing of warped drum is done by removing it at a wheel truing shop and taking it to lathe. Not recommended.

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First off all Cyclo carb cleaner doesn't contain Acetone. If u check it contains Toluene, Hexane, Ethylene Glycol Butyl Ether & Methanol. No acetone is mentioned.
And i know acetone damages rubber. I cleaned the carb first then installed the o-ring for the first time. And now when i opened the float, i found it has gone big in size. According to my experience all non-OE o-rings get big in size automatically. Even when i was not having carb cleaner and when i was using non-oe insulator o-rings, then tend to get big in size later. And didn't last long at all.
Even i tried using too many non-oe o-rings in intake manifold. But all doesn't last at all. Now the day since i changed them to OE o-rings they are still in perfect new condition. Can be used after every time opening. Don't need to spend Rs.10~15 eveytime. They are far better than non-oe.
One time investment = long term benefit

I still have the pic of two of them local o-ring of intake manifold.

See this pic how bad this o-ring had gone within a month.





Can u see that piece of rubber peels of from that o-ring? that was in all over the o-ring. And this thing doesn't happen with OE rings.

Therefore i told u two times to send me the OE o-ring only.

Even when u mentioned earlier u got this for Rs.13 u didn't mention that whether u got local or OE. And I & Above_all we messing our brains that how it can be Rs.13~25. Even i raised the question 2 times but u didn't mentioned. Later when i got ur package then my doubt was cleared that day. That Rs.13 was of local and not for OE and those 700~800 prices for OE was correct.
My confusion was cleared that day

Even this TOP o-ring is not like OE, the difference can easily be seen here in this page. both o-ring pics are here.
TOP http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/...ps95ee0f88.jpg
Original https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-i.../sDSCN2639.jpg

@Pinaki jee
Simply don't spray carb cleaner to that o-ring, or else use petrol only to clean the float. Using carb cleaner to clean the float is not even necessary.

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Great maintenance for a 12 years old bike Sibun bhai.

Does the Hero HF Dawn come with the same engine as your HH Joy? HF Dawn also has that classic bike look which I like very much.

What is your comment on Yamaha Crux in case you have ridden the bike.

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Actually its not an effort on my part but it is the bikes quality as it has never asked maintenance from me, you will be surprised to hear that the bike has not suffered a puncture from last five years. Almost 90% of the bike is still that came from factory. So no it is not my effort but the quality of bike, although i agree that i have also taken care like none as i used to skip meals in college to save money for maintaining my bike like new. In my home nobody calls it as bike, but everybody refers it as my elder son as there is a dog in my house which they call it as my middle son( i love it very much and he also does the same), and a cat which they call as my younger son(he will wait for me and if anybody has scolded him will complain me by showing signs), and i think after me only my mother knows how much i love my bike as she also tells that she will never allow anybody in house to sell the bike.The new Dawn is slightly better than my joy when it comes to engine as it consist of new engine whose basic architecture is same as Joy but the difference is that it has more torque and power at lower rpm, also it has 8 pole lightning which will give light like cars and also has DC ignition which gives better firing. But do not expect the same quality as Joy because in todays world quality is not that drives sale but the show and quantity of features and price that drives market, in fact my mechanic, showroom mechanic and i have also felt that none of the bikes i have ridden till date has same quality like my Joy. Yamaha crux is a very good bike but i liked the Crux-R which i liked more than plain Crux, but the main problem is that Yamaha has decreased the quality than the first generation Crux in order to price it cheaper. Also spares back up by Yamaha is horrible for Crux and Libero, so i advice you against it if you want new bike. You can go for Dawn or if you spare some more cash then you can go for CD Deluxe with self start as Self is a great convenience.On another note i would like to add a few more things here.The last weekend when i went to my house, i went to visit my old workplace and meet the workers there, as you know my place of works were bridge sites so bound to be rivers and sands. I took the Joy as when i go to house i just keep the CBZ and ride Joy, so the thing is that i was riding through the river bed where only trucks and tractors go, the low end torque of my my joy is so good that i was riding in sand in second gear and also while stopping and starting just shift into first and light throttle it will pull from sand easily, after riding my Joy when i rode my extreme i felt as if there is no power in the extreme below 3k rpm, even it felt as if some problem is there in the bike, my joy will pull as if it is having no load but extreme will pull as if it is pulling very slow. However it is a different matter that after 5k Rpm extreme delivers power like crazy. So if somebody asks the difference between torque and power then i have practical experience on these bikes which is enough to tell the differences.