Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

HF dawn is an excellent bike with new variant of the same engine . It develops a tiny bit more power and torque and has many pleasant changes made to it by Hero . Yes , I like it's looks better than the HF Deluxe etc semi fared bikes . I will say this here at risk of getting tarred , yamaha's crux is in every way a better bike than Hero CD series and Splendor , every way except for looks . It is also cheaper and has more power and quality parts for less cost . I had one for 7 years , sold off just few months back . It's the one you see me riding in my pic here .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Nothing beats the low-end torque of these bikes. In xtreme,one has to leave the clutch and synchronize the throttle but nothing like that with splendor series.
Just leave the throttle and it will move with-out any throttle even at idling RPM. One can easily pop a wheelie if accelerator is applied while leaving the clutch in first gear. Some times when I want to relax during night time,I take my splendor and potter in third gear without touching the accelerator. Engine makes very less noise and runs quietly while I enjoy the cool and calm atmosphere of nighttime.

In this mad race of having bigger carbs to enhance top end,low end has taken a hit but splendor with a relatively bigger carb manages to have a good all-round performance.
This makes it a boon not only in city traffic but on highways too. No wonder these bikes continue to sell in huge numbers and continue to attract thousands despite the heavy competition from newer entrants.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Sorry for not updating this thread.(My camera's battery charger wasn't working.)

Few weeks back, I made this tool using a rod and welded a nut (10Cm Dia). There is no chance of it slipping and damaging the head as it fits perfectly.


This thing needs to fit here on top of the piston and hold it while we loosen the bottom Allen bolt.



What paul has made is a universal piston holder, this one is bike specific. I don't have the skill required to grind a rod into the required shape perfectly even though I have a angle grinder which is not safe.

It costed me only Rs.45 to make this tool.(Rs.25/- for rod from scrap yard at Rs.30 per kg and Rs.20/- to weld the nut)

20" length and 10" for T.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

[MENTION=14414]shoeb[/MENTION] , i have seen similar juggad's at mechs.. even my scoot mech uses such a juggad T-bar with a nut welded that opens 12mm nuts (like the ones on the activa/dio to remove the CLIC mechanism seat to access the engine)

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Cm or mm ? More pics of what it looks like ?

updates on my joy

Yes, you are more than 100% right. The simplicity of this bikes have resulted in the bike being very easy to ride and the gear ratios are perfect, in third gear one can go from 15-70 kph and in fourth gear 20-100 kph without any load on engine. Regarding idling, my Joy has so low idling that when standing in traffic lights you will think that engine has died but it will be idling smoothly, even at this low idling it pulls without throttle. Your splendor will pull more easily as it is lighter by almost 10 kg than joy, runs 14/43 sprocket and also runs 2.75-18 tyre at rear, so it will be having more low end pull as my Joy runs 3.00-18 tyre and 14/42 sprocket which lowers the rpm compared to splendor at same speed. After riding the Joy if i immediately switch to extreme, then i feel that in low rpm it is not pulling, and i am a different type of guy who doesn't likes to rev the engine. I like bikes like Karizma, Joy/splendor, Glamour/super splendor, Bullet, or in short that have high low end pull, although i bought extreme as i liked its performance as it pulls like crazy after 5k rpm. But why i bought the extreme is another story which i have written and will post in extreme thread.Coming to carburettors then let me add that today almost every commuter comes with smaller Venturi than splendor series bikes. Open any commuter bikes carb be it platina, dream yuga or x pro they all have 16 mm venturi while splendor series have 18 mm venturi, and also all these bikes run cat con but our is almost free flow silencer.Although the new models comes with cat con. But when it comes to low end torque in commuter bikes then the baap is glamor/super splendor, they produces 10.35 Nm of torque at only 4500 rpm, ride these and you will feel like riding a diesel vehicle as they pull like one. One of my friends in the bank will buy glamor this week as yesterday i passed his loan application. Now a days when most bike comes with short geared glamor/ super splendor comes with very tall gear. They only posses 9 bhp but with their torque they posses almost same speed as other 125 cc that produce 11 bhp as they posses tall gears and also the torque doesn't dips and remains steady after 4500 rpm till 6000 rpm.UPDATES ON MY JOY:-As i have previously said i had changed the clutch plates, clutch housing and GPT, the bike has gone very free and feels light while pulling. Engine has become silent and also mileage has returned back to 75 kpl+, which had gone down to 60-65 kpl previously. But there is another update i have changed the lock set of My JOY, the original lock set lasted for 12 years and still was working good, but the tank cap rubber had gone hard as a result tank cap was vibrating and also petrol was evaporating and water was getting in tank. Since the tank cap cost Rs.350 and i was uncomfortable with Two keys i changed the lock set. Since Joy's lock set was not available i used Passion+ lock set as they are same except that the connectors in Joy lock set are individual wires like CD 100 with male-female clips, while in Passion+ it is socket. So i cut the socket used four male pins on the four wires and fit it. No touch to original wires as the wires in new lock was cut and modified. Previously my bike came with shorter key but passion+ has longer key like after 2004 bike, so my bike has now longer key. Feels good to get new key on my Joy, remembered the day when i was handed the new keys of My joy in showroom while taking delivery 12 years ago. The locks changed were- handle cum ignition lock, seat cum helmet lock, tank cap, and tool box lock.The Mrp was Rs.735 and my friend took Rs. 662, after a discount of 10% that too on OE spare, that is why i never go to showroom as my friend keeps all OE spares and gives me a discount of 10% while showroom gives only 5% if we have goodlife card. However i was trying to Get Joy lock set as it cost Rs.950. But sadly no one had stock here.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Oops, It is 10mm.

In this picture you can see how the nut is welded.




After riding splendor a splendor, it looks like something is missing in other bike. I wanted a ZMR but the fairing and high OTR price of nearly Rs.1,30,000/- put me off.

I personally don't like to ride as if my a$$ is on fire. Xtreme is an exception though, makes no sense riding it below 5k Rpm.

I still prefer to take splendor on deserted highways where constant speed can be maintained and where there is no need of overtaking. I picked up xtreme for its top-end performance because it can rev so quickly from 5k upto redline whereas other bikes start running out of breath once they are near their peak power Rpm. This top end performance can be a boon on highways. As most of my riding consists of highway roads and speed of 70-80 kpmh and the RPM hovering above 6k, just a mere twisting of the throttle is enough to overtake.

No matter how many bikes come and go, splendor will be with me forever.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Same here..my first bike was splendor.I learned to ride properly on it.Ripped it like hell and had a lot of fun with it than I would with any other bike.
Friends called me crazy for taking the puny 100cc when going touring with their p220,r15..
Few months ago..i brought a 2009 model apache rtr too.
I still ride my splendor and I enjoy especially ripping it on 3rd gear..people are like how the hell that thing go so quick.
11 year old:

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Thats pretty shining and looking good in condition. No matter how many bikes come & go, these series bikes will last longer and forever than any other bike can.
I love the sound of these old model splendor and its still attractive to me and many others
Even this engine is puny but its most reliable with low maintenance cost that newer bikes. I'm sure most of those p220,r15 guys who called as puny must have learned driving in this 100c series. Because this was the largest selling bike when its launched in the market. Every guy at that time have splendors name in their mouth in every go. Now all they have forgot this and praise p200&r15 now. were it was non-even exist that time.
Whatever new comes in the market older things get puny.

They don't know all these pulser and r15 are also puny bikes, they stand nothing in comparison to these Boss Hoss V8 engine in bikes. no even compare with bullet.



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Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

This plug was came out of my splendor after a tedious effort , Its thread and edges were like welded in the engine , sprayed WD 40 and pried it open in morning . Finally success !! The plug clearly shows the oil burning issue as mentioned before . The oil in bottom rings confirms this i guess. I fit a NGK CR6HSA . I will re-bore and complete all the pending works.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

The plug has been shorted-out. Looks like the rings are worn and is in the initial stage of oil burning.
For now, NGK CR6HSA will work but try to get MICO U4A(Non-resistor type). Ideally a hotter plug with no resistor should be beneficial when the engine is burning oil as it self cleans.

Next time onward, Use the plug spanner to tighten the plug and a #16 spanner ONLY to remove the plug.

What kind of pending works ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Clutch plates change
Both Shocks reconditioning
Tank repaint
Battery change
Front tyre change

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

I don't see any oil-burning signs on your plug . Maybe a closer pic nearer the tip would help . The plug is simply worn from age .
Use a standard new ngk CR7HSA . You can buy a ngk CR7HGP as well , those are pretty much self-cleaning . Put a drop of carb-cleaner or kerosene or something on the threads on the engine hole and clean it well with cloth . Fit the new plug with a tiny drop of clean engine oil on it's threads . Gently bare-hand seat it in the threads avoiding binding and x-threading as far as it will go in by hand , then further tighten it just 1/4 of a full turn ( for a new plug ) with an wrench . Take out and inspect the plug closely from time to time for any problems . Re-tigtening for used plugs is 1/8th of a full turn after hand tight . Check ignition current & spark-plug cap resistance . What makes you suspect oil burning anyway ? What oil is in your engine now ? What is the age of the motor in years and kilo ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

It has done close to 41k and oil were changed periodically but also wasn't taken much care . Currently running on Oem 10W30. Today i again opened plug to check and found tip and first thread completly covered in black soot . But yes one more thing i saw is there is no oil in bottom rings .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Black soot alone is not sign of oil burning or ring defect . Even a faulty plug or ignition can cause that , amongst other minor things . Does your oil level go down with regularity ? Shift to 20w40 grade oil ( or 15w40 diesel rated oil - chk the oil thread ) . Heavier base oil shall give better ring-seal and compensate for the increased bearings and parts tolerances better and so it's recomended for high-miles engines to use a bit heavier base oil . And oh , don't forget to replace the plug and check the ignition spark . Do the other planned work of the bike , but I think you can avoid engine overhaul for another 40k kms hopefully . 41k without much care is ordinary job for the Splendor's motor really .