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  • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

    Originally posted by diffuser911 View Post
    Ahh...had been waiting for such a thread for too long.

    I own a December 2005 CBZ Star, 51k km on the odo. Don't know if it can be called the "Classic", but yeah, the problems mentioned are pretty much the same. And did you not mention the pathetic headlight? Gosh, it gives me creeps driving on the NH at night and I have survived quite a few potholes yesterday itself. The shoddy plastics are nothing to talk about; I've literally cracked every plastic part that is there on the bike. Got it fiber welded though and saste choote.

    Anyhow, this is the first bike I owned, even though its second-hand. I just couldn't gulp a Pulsar(so utterly common) and the Xtreme disappointed me severely, since I was waiting for its launch before I got this bike. Looks were pathetic, and the pickup was not so good.

    For the vibes in engine and footpeg, try getting the camshaft, rocker arms and chain guide changed. Cost me 1400 and the bike seems less like a tractor. Another thing that matters is engine mounting rubbers, mine were not replaced tough. For a more hold-able top end for touring, a ZMA pushrod will do wonders(so says Praveen, who did it on his CBZ).

    I am frequently attracted to the new-gen bikes, like the ZMA for touring capability, the RTR for the feature-rich speedo and of course, the R15 for the look-different appeal. But what I know for sure is this baby is gonna last me another few years before I can save up for a 250 cc+ import, and a legal one too.
    This is an old post. Anyone know what's pushrod?

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    • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

      Originally posted by motociclista.8 View Post
      This is an old post. Anyone know what's pushrod?
      Push rods are used to activate valves. CBZ uses SOHC (almost every Indian entry level bike uses overhead cam setup). Below pic of the CBZ engine shows the cam chain and sprocket.

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      • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

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        For the vibes in engine and footpeg, try getting the camshaft, rocker arms and chain guide changed. Cost me 1400 and the bike seems less like a tractor. Another thing that matters is engine mounting rubbers, mine were not replaced tough. For a more hold-able top end for touring, a ZMA pushrod will do wonders(so says Praveen, who did it on his CBZ).

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        Thanks. Since Karizma and CBZ have SOHC engine, I'm confused about what's meant by pushrod in the above post.

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        • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

          Probably send a personal message to the guy?
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          • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

            Originally posted by metalghost View Post
            Well.. thank you. But I am not very keen in changing the classic looks of CBZ. So, I am looking for an OEM or even after market headlight dome/assembly. Has anyone done this?
            Even i will not recommend you to change your headlight as it ruins the classic look .Try to get a new replacement dome (i think it was 400INR) and install any 55/60 bulb ,as this bulb will consume more power so change all the cbz bulbs such as blinkers and other small bulb to led ,this setup will work great.I have a 2004 model cbz* and i am using this setup from long time,trust me there will be no problem .After 2.5k rpm the bulb wont have any flickering.I changed the dome installed Osram night breaker(60/55) ,changed all blinkers,position lights to LED bulbs,only caution i take is to switch off light when bike is idling to save bulb life as night breakers are quite costly.light output will be focused as cbz is not having multi-reflector but there will be day and night difference.for installing the bulb you need to change the holder as well,this any meachanic can easily do.Unfortunately I cant send you photos as i am out of India but can send when i will be back.

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            • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

              Originally posted by rawat97 View Post
              Even i will not recommend you to change your headlight as it ruins the classic look .Try to get a new replacement dome (i think it was 400INR) and install any 55/60 bulb ,as this bulb will consume more power so change all the cbz bulbs such as blinkers and other small bulb to led ,this setup will work great.I have a 2004 model cbz* and i am using this setup from long time,trust me there will be no problem .After 2.5k rpm the bulb wont have any flickering.I changed the dome installed Osram night breaker(60/55) ,changed all blinkers,position lights to LED bulbs,only caution i take is to switch off light when bike is idling to save bulb life as night breakers are quite costly.light output will be focused as cbz is not having multi-reflector but there will be day and night difference.for installing the bulb you need to change the holder as well,this any meachanic can easily do.Unfortunately I cant send you photos as i am out of India but can send when i will be back.
              Thank for the info. How do new replacement dome better the stock one? Where can I buy it?

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              • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                Originally posted by rawat97 View Post
                Even i will not recommend you to change your headlight as it ruins the classic look .Try to get a new replacement dome (i think it was 400INR) and install any 55/60 bulb ,as this bulb will consume more power so change all the cbz bulbs such as blinkers and other small bulb to led ,this setup will work great.I have a 2004 model cbz* and i am using this setup from long time,trust me there will be no problem .After 2.5k rpm the bulb wont have any flickering.I changed the dome installed Osram night breaker(60/55) ,changed all blinkers,position lights to LED bulbs,only caution i take is to switch off light when bike is idling to save bulb life as night breakers are quite costly.light output will be focused as cbz is not having multi-reflector but there will be day and night difference.for installing the bulb you need to change the holder as well,this any meachanic can easily do.Unfortunately I cant send you photos as i am out of India but can send when i will be back.
                Thank you for this info. Osram NightBreaker 60/55 is quite expensive. So I didn't go for it. However, I replaced the dome and yes, it worked to some extend. It is throwing some decent light on the road. I managed a Lumax dome and cost me Rs. 650/-, including labor. Even you can do it yourself, its no big deal. Meanwhile, I have some queries. Did you change from AC to DC for this? Do you face any heating issue since 60/55 bulb will spit out more heat than a 12V/35 bulb. I heard chances of wires catching fire is more since stock wiring of CBZ is not designed to take more wattage/voltage. Furthermore, does the alternator need to be rewound to withstand additional wattage the new bulb is drawing? My mechanic says, the holder can melt down due to heat from the bulb. Can you give me any guidance on this? Also, if you DC the bike, is battery draining out fast? I use a 12V/2.5A battery. Do I need to upgrade it?

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                Originally posted by motociclista.8 View Post
                Thank for the info. How do new replacement dome better the stock one? Where can I buy it?
                Any aftermarket shop. I hear Minda is also in market. But I preferred Lumax since I think HH/Hero bikes come out from factory with Lumax on them. Replacement works since even the quality of stock dome fades with time and starts looking yellowish. My original dome was looking like a fog lamp in front of the new one. We just don't realize it since we get used to slowly/gradually fading beam intensity. And when we suddenly compare it to a new dome, the stock one looks terrible. Get the dome replaced. You'll see the difference.

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                Since Osram NightBreaker 60/55 is pretty much expensive, how about Osram SilverStar HS1? I see Rs. 250-300/- on some online purchase websites. Any input on this..? Anyone..? Also, do both NightBreaker and SilverStar come with requirement of changing the stock holder?
                Last edited by metalghost; 03-06-2017, 12:28 PM.

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                • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                  what about this one?? I modded my cbz's dome with projector setups of Ktm rc 200
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                  • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                    Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
                    what about this one?? I modded my cbz's dome with projector setups of Ktm rc 200
                    How good is the beam? Are you satisfied with it?

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                    • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                      Its stock setup is 55w low beam and 65w high beam. I am running it on ac so cant turn on both beams at same time, but the illumination is better than any aftermarket setup. Wiring,switches are stock. I am using this almost for one year. thinking of making it full dc, big battery with ape or gixxer rr and some relays.
                      Last edited by Darchorse; 03-07-2017, 10:25 PM.
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                      • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                        Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
                        Its stock setup is 55w low beam and 65w high beam. I am running it on ac so cant turn on both beams at same time, but the illumination is better than any aftermarket setup. Wiring,switches are stock. I am using this almost for one year. thinking of making it full dc, big battery with ape or gixxer rr and some relays.
                        Hello Darchorse,

                        Your MOD gave answers to almost all of my queries/doubts. I think CBZ's wiring to headlight can take the wattage drawn by a 55/60 bulb. By the way, how old is your bike and also, please tell me about the battery you use - volt and ampere?

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                        • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                          Originally posted by metalghost View Post
                          Hello Darchorse,

                          Your MOD gave answers to almost all of my queries/doubts. I think CBZ's wiring to headlight can take the wattage drawn by a 55/60 bulb. By the way, how old is your bike and also, please tell me about the battery you use - volt and ampere?
                          Its 2000 year model. You can fit 55/60 w halogen in cbz. Its alternator generates 130w at 5000 rpm, mine 55w low beam glows to brightest at 2000 rpm. Change all indiators,brake light, speedometer bulbs with LED bulbs. Battery is stock 2.5 ah which is almost dead.
                          Big Power Comes With Big Responsibility

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                          • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                            Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
                            Its 2000 year model. You can fit 55/60 w halogen in cbz. Its alternator generates 130w at 5000 rpm, mine 55w low beam glows to brightest at 2000 rpm. Change all indiators,brake light, speedometer bulbs with LED bulbs. Battery is stock 2.5 ah which is almost dead.
                            Thank you for quickest reply. One last doubt - Is it that "white" light you mean by "halogen"? I am not so keen in that eye-stabbing white light. It is really a nuisance to oncoming vehicles. I am just looking to brighten up the light a bit more, without causing trouble to others.
                            Last edited by metalghost; 03-09-2017, 02:59 PM.

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                            • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                              Originally posted by metalghost View Post
                              Thank you for quickest reply. One last doubt - Is it that "white" light you mean by "halogen"? I am not so keen in that eye-stabbing white light. It is really a nuisance to oncoming vehicles. I am just looking to brighten up the light a bit more, without causing trouble to others.
                              Halogen means regular yellow bulbs, never go for white light they are mostly led's nowdays. U have to do jugad to install 55/60 w bulb in cbz reflector. I guess 55/60w bulb needs hs1 or h4 socket. Any mechanic can do this jugad.
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                              • Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

                                Originally posted by Darchorse View Post
                                Halogen means regular yellow bulbs, never go for white light they are mostly led's nowdays. U have to do jugad to install 55/60 w bulb in cbz reflector. I guess 55/60w bulb needs hs1 or h4 socket. Any mechanic can do this jugad.
                                Hmmm.. That's what I thought. I am not going for LED or any kind of white light. It's an irritation. Thank you for suggestions. Let me try 55/60W next. Let me upgrade the holder also accordingly. Will let you all know of the outcome.

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