Re: Hero Honda CBZ Classic

Total price of the setup?
Is the battery able to withstand load

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I bought used headlight setup of ktm rc in 2800. Its running on coil. No role of battery in this setup as battery is low capacity 2.5 ah. Its getting out of budget for running it on battery, i have to rewind the coil and make it dc then new wiring, new rr and new high capacity battery.

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Folks.. upgrading to LED, HID, 55/60, Night Breaker, Day Breaker are all underway. But government is also up to something simultaneously. I hope you are all now aware that headlight of a two wheeler is supposed to stay "on" always, as per new rule of government/RTO. I remember reading someone's post "switch off headlight at signals to save the bulb's life". LOL... now not only that you cannot switch off headlamp at signals, but you are not allowed to switch it off during day time also..! My friend got himself a new Pulsar-NS200 last Sunday. The bike doesn't have a headlamp switch..! Turn on the engine, the headlight glows. Same with all new two wheeler. No headlamp switch.! Bulb's life is gonna go for a toss here, guys...!!!

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That is applicable to only new vehicles.

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No, re.. It is applicable to all two wheelers on road. New vehicles come without a switch since they are being released after the rule is implemented, while old vehicles are to turn on headlamps manually, during day time also.

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Meanwhile, my mechanic did something gross yesterday. I went to him, to seek help in procuring a 55/60 halogen bulb, appropriate holder/socket and also to fit them both properly into the dome. He somehow evaded all my ideas/queries, replaced the normal 12v/35 bulb with a Philips 12v/35 halogen (Rs. 90), opened the side panel, cut the two wires coming from alternator and interchanged them (Rs. 60). Means - the wire which was charging the battery previously is now powering the headlight and the wire which was powering the headlight is now charging the battery. Result - battery charging is slow, but headlight is indeed glowing more. Total cost - Rs. 150/-.

Now, I know this alteration is not really good for the battery. But, my CBZ is not a self starter model. Battery DC supplies power only to blinkers, brake light, neutral/turn indicators and horn.

Any inputs?

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Like bharat stage 2,3,4 emission norms which is applicable to only new vehicles coming after the emission norms are declare and not for old vehicles. All day headlight on is also applicable to only new vehicles thats why companies are not giving headlight switch nowadays. All this nonsense to increase the visibility of vehicle during day. Rule copied from western countries where roads are buttersmooth and bumper to bumper traffic is rare scenario.

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Bro i have mentioned many times in my post and also in earlier posts you can find out that headlight runs on ac current, directly on coil.

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Yes, buddy. I know that headlight is powered by coil/alternator and not directly by battery. What I tried to say here is - the mechanic interchanged the two wires coming out of coil. The wire which carries more voltage, which is supposed to charge the battery, is now powering my headlamp. And the wire, which earlier powered the headlamp, which carriers less voltage, is now charging the battery. My concern is on battery life now, not on bulb/illumination.

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Its will not affect the life of battery if its getting charge often. After mod your bulb glows brighter cos current coming from battery charger wire is more than the current coming from headlight wire.

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There you are..! Now we are talking.! This is what I was trying to explain. Philips 12v/35 is throwing considerable good beams. I am kind of OK with this mod now.

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Sorry for my dumb question.
Can't we connect both the pairs of wires to battery and run the headlight directly from battery ( DC ). If battery is big , then it will give enough/faster charging also. ( assuming )
any idea/anybody tried?

Thanks
Mathew K Jose

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You cant with stock setup, those wires goes to regulator rectifier unit which regulates 12v ac current for headlight and rectifies ac current to dc for charging the battery.
Two wires coming from alternator belongs to two different coils, to combine them you have to do some rewiring in alternator and not just connecting those wires, it will burn the whole coil. There is a thread of converting ac setup to dc which will clear your all doubts. Also regulator rectifier unit need to be change to high capacity dc charger. RR of cbz is not made to charge big batteries.

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Thanks for clearing my doubt .
Can we add one more rectifier in between headlight and headlight coil so that headlight runs in DC ?
Also , i suppose headlight works in both AC & DC ( on + pass ). How is that?

Thanks
Mathew K Jose

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I guess the pass-switch is doing the trick by giving DC to headlamp for that moment only.

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Well, battery kind of died yesterday evening/night. Refused to sound horn, power blinkers and even started disturbing RPM needle when I forcibly turned the blinkers on. But, it was all working like before today morning. It is an old battery anyway. I think I'll go for a new one soon.

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