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I am sorry guys...I was off from xbhp since a month. But hey I am back to answer your queries...Originally posted by gautam View PostI know the CBZ headlight reflector is bad, but has anyone thought of swapping the head with FZ16 ???
+ You guys running on filters ??? Just filter or filter with engine mods ?? Please share here
Well Gautam:- Its an expensive affair... You can try it offcourse... The results will be good nevertheless. Since its a clear type reflector. You'll be seing noticible diffrence just by switching the head...Power it up with a 3-point bulb...You can go with the stock 35W rating... from philips or osram....No need to get the coil rewinding and stuffs. And there you have it great night light at your disposal...
Filters are not always good...Specially In dust and grease...Credits to indian weather and environment. I am not running on after market filter from K&N. The filter is bone stock what they provide with the HH.
Hope I have given you all the info regarding your query..."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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HID on stock CBZ reflector...
You can put hook it up with the HID... Until you are using 35W it wont melt the reflector, please also be aware that anything more than 35W on the stock reflector would definately melt it down. So, I would say its safe for you to do the coil rewinding and hook it up with an HID until you are happy to use 35W on your reflector. If you need the 55W then you'll need to put OMNI or GYPSY's reflector has abhilash did...Originally posted by rohitraghavan View PostIf you are doing the coil rewinding or putting HIDs no need to change the reflector."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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Originally posted by Black_Scorpion View PostHi Guys .. I came across this thread today .. It's good to know that this thread exists for CBZ classic. I have a 2003 CBZ Classic with 23000 km in the odo. I have kept the bike idle for 5 years from 2005 to 2009 as I was out. I started riding it again from 2009 itself. The condition of the bike is good. I did some small changes to it myself .. I changed the stock plug to NGK iridium, modded and changed the airfilter to K&N and also put a original split-fire cable as the stock one got cut ..
.. Anyways, I did not do upjetting or exhaust modification as I don't want to loose the beauty and reliability of my classic. I also changed chain spoket set with a new stock one and the clutch too. Cleaned the curb myself and adjusted the tapit by an mechanic here at Kolkaka. Am good with the power delivery of the bike as I am not into speed run or stunting and mainly use the bike for weekend trips of 150-250 kms around Kolkata.
I am facing few problems with classic recently and seeking for your help here.
1. The stock lights are really poor and want to do something with it. I have few options but need your help in terms of finding the best suitable. Options are:
A) Change to HID - Cost is not the factor, but there are issues associated with it .. I need to convert the electrical to DC. Need to put a 9AmpH or 14 AmpH battery and for that need to alter the existing battery case. Also for charging the battery, perhaps needs to change the power direction from magneto to battery and headlamp. As for the existing setup, 2 points go to the battery charger and 3 points for the headlamp. Simply switching it won't help as it is not plug n play setup. If I don't do this, the battery will drain in couple of hours.Though the wattage consumed by HID is 35 but switching it on and off couple of times will choke the battery to death.
B) Change the magneto to generate more wattage so it can power 55/60 or 90/100 halogen. But there is no available plug n play magneto in the market. Only option is to rewind the coils. The issues associated to this is, it has to be done by a experienced electrician... for this perhaps 40mm gauge copper wire is suitable but am not sure. Currently, 34mm gauge copper wire is used for the coils. After the rewinding, I have to change the entire electrical as I don't think 7 year old wires are capable of handling the extra load. The biggest problem for this entire staff is finding a good auto electrician to do the entire job. I can start doing this by myself but perhaps it will take me a year to complete the job.
.. So, If anyone has any idea of an good auto electrician and mechanic, Please let me know.
2. My second problem is, after fitting the K&N, the engine has become lean, generating excessive heat and I am not able to fine tune it .. Need someone to help me fix this quickly otherwise it's gonna hurt the engine a lot.
3. Third problem is, both of the rims has some little bends .. and I am not able to find a good mach to fix it ... and it's also causing the fron disk to get a li'l jammed and sometimes given trouble to breaking too.
So friends these are my issues .... I know there are experience ppl here and expecting the reply from the gurus here .. Thanks a lot ..
Welcome to XBHP Black Scorpion.... This is for your query...
1. Yeah, you can alter the case to put in 9Ah battery...Alteration would cost you but I wonder where would you keep that case. There is no space in there. If you can do that well and good. You'll have to get the coil rewinding done on your bike if you intend to use the HID... As far as DC is concerned you'll need to get a RR unit of Piago APE... The coil rewinding and RR unit with a better set of wire will do the trick to have a DC powered Bike.
2. There you have it all which gauge wire's to use and just what to do. Seems as if you have done your homework well...Just kidding... Sorry being a bong I dont have any idea what so ever of technicians in and around kolkata...
3. Always run you bike with the filter cover and factory fitted filter. The K&N would definately make sound, they would definately give you some extra torque. But the dust and grim would eat away your engine. Try doing the tuning yourself. Locate the volume control screw beneath the carb and put the idling to 3000 rev's and den slowly move the volume control screw anticlockwise, plz note that this would richen the fuel mixture and you should follow it cautiously. Keep it 2-3 turns until the rev's come back down...
4. Any spoke rim would have bend, Nomatter what...Since they are spokes...100% accuracy of correcting the bend spokes would never be a success. There is ought to be some bend on the rims. If the front disc becomes jam, please remove the disc brake pad, polish it with the polishing paper and refix it. May be because of dust its getting jammed...
Hope I answered it all...."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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Dude...Seems some 1 was missing me in the XBHP post.Originally posted by harryhunt7 View PostHello everyone, I too own a CBZ CLASSIC 2002. It's been a pleasure riding this bike since 2002, have done 53k kms and the bike is still smooth after servicing it regularly & changing new parts every now & then. I will be buying another bike by this yr end and will also keep this one
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I have been following this thread for the past few days and am addicted t it now, I will be active on this forum from now on. I am planing to make the necessary & optional mods discussed here one by one. Thanks to all who have shared their tips/tricks & experiences in this thread.
My first change is NGK IRIDUM spark plug & splitfire cable
Have bought the plug online for 550+99 now I need to buy a Splitfire coil for it. I am confused with MSD & Maxspeed, was thinking they were same brand MSD short for MaxSpeed, but that is not the case MSD is actually Mitsubishi & Dodge I think, please correct me if I am wrong.
Question: I am looking to buy a MSD Splitfire cable, can anyone tell me where to get it from within India have tried 2 websites Sniper-auto & goforkrp but they have MaxSpeed , is MaxSpeed a splitfire? I am from Panchkula, Haryana nearby Chandigarh.
Can anyone throw some light on this? MAXX
PS. My next mod is the performance CDI which has already been shipped from overseas will take a few weeks to get here. It is meant for the USA Bike CRF150F 2003-2005 which has the same engine as CBZ as I learnt from MAXX & Joel's posts. It is suppose to give 1-3 Bhp gain as mentioned by manufacturer, lets see will post here once i have tested it.
But you know what You have haunted me...
1. MSD works best....MAX speed is easily available here. After the NGK and Split fire plugged in, You'll have a smooth throttle response...Better than stock atleast but not like the hunks and cbz-x's... No matter whichever split fire cable you get. MSD is somewhat better...In terms of continuos spark emission. If you get it, you can put it in but there wont be any noticible difference between MSD and MAX SPEED. So its you choice after all.
Which Performance CDI you are getting? Come on thats not at all fair saying joel's and my name on this thread. And you simply cant blame on us. You should have read detailed post about the CDI. Unfortunately Enough the CDI that you have ordered wont work with you cbz nomatter whatever you do. They are just meant for the CRF-150F/R and CRF-230F/L. There is lot of complication's. There are few member in this community who have tried doing it and failed to do so...Including me. The Revbox/juicebox doesnt really work with our engine. The engine is the same but other things are way too different. CRF's dont have lighting, We do have. CRF's run on completely different coil's magneto's etc... Its like indian parts which we cant replace at all.
Hope I answered your query"At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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Shell Advanced Fast Track...MineralOriginally posted by vishnups17 View PostWhat is the best semisynthetic/full synthetic oil for cbz classic?itz for my friend
Shell VSX- Semi
Shell Ultra 10W40- Full
Petronas Sprinta- Full
Motul 300V - Full
Researches prove mineral based engine oil is better for CBZ & ZMA... Since you have to change oil more frequently you engine stays healthy all the way..."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View PostPetronas Sprinta, Motul 300V, Motul 5100
I have tried all of them & all of them are good for CBZThanks for ur quick reply,what is the engine oil grade for cbz,because motul 5100 is available in 20W40 and 20W50,can i use motul 5100 20W50Originally posted by maxx View PostShell Advanced Fast Track...Mineral
Shell VSX- Semi
Shell Ultra 10W40- Full
Petronas Sprinta- Full
Motul 300V - Full
Researches prove mineral based engine oil is better for CBZ & ZMA... Since you have to change oil more frequently you engine stays healthy all the way...
A LOST RACE IS ALWAYS BETTER THAN A LOST LIMB
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CBZ recommended grade is 20W40, you can use both W40 or W50 not a big problem.Originally posted by vishnups17 View PostThanks for ur quick reply,what is the engine oil grade for cbz,because motul 5100 is available in 20W40 and 20W50,can i use motul 5100 20W50

But if available please stick to comp recommended gradesigpicAll India Permit 1+1
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Its all about the oil you use
Abhi is right...Sick to the OEM's.... Both work the W40 and W50.Originally posted by vishnups17 View PostThanks for ur quick reply,what is the engine oil grade for cbz,because motul 5100 is available in 20W40 and 20W50,can i use motul 5100 20W50

Choose W50 for cooler climates, Riding in heavy rains, cloudy, and extremely dropped environment temperatures. I Guess you are in india. It should be raining I guess by this time of the year. Best time to try W50...You'll find you engine start at lower temperatures. While if you would have used W40...You would have got fed-up getting your sweety to start.
The W40 is specifically meant for indian summer. Hot and humit climate.
Choose wisely and according to Environment conditions."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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Hey, thx for the reply. Me haunting u, no dudeOriginally posted by maxx View PostDude...Seems some 1 was missing me in the XBHP post.
But you know what You have haunted me...
1. MSD works best....MAX speed is easily available here. After the NGK and Split fire plugged in, You'll have a smooth throttle response...Better than stock atleast but not like the hunks and cbz-x's... No matter whichever split fire cable you get. MSD is somewhat better...In terms of continuos spark emission. If you get it, you can put it in but there wont be any noticible difference between MSD and MAX SPEED. So its you choice after all.
Which Performance CDI you are getting? Come on thats not at all fair saying joel's and my name on this thread. And you simply cant blame on us. You should have read detailed post about the CDI. Unfortunately Enough the CDI that you have ordered wont work with you cbz nomatter whatever you do. They are just meant for the CRF-150F/R and CRF-230F/L. There is lot of complication's. There are few member in this community who have tried doing it and failed to do so...Including me. The Revbox/juicebox doesnt really work with our engine. The engine is the same but other things are way too different. CRF's dont have lighting, We do have. CRF's run on completely different coil's magneto's etc... Its like indian parts which we cant replace at all.
Hope I answered your query
just mentioned ur name since you had a good experience with throttle response after using IRIDIUM plug.. I guess Maxspeed will be alright then.
Yes, you are right I shouldn't have stated your & Joel's name with no basis and only my assumptions. I take my words back.
I am not getting a stock/OEM CDI for CRF150F but an unrestricted CDI meant for pitstop motorbike or Honda GY6 engine or any 150cc 200cc bike and compatible with CRF50 & CRF150 bike as stated by the seller. Let's see if it can work on a CBZ..
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I think you have got it upside down.. W50 would work well for summers & w40 good for winters..Originally posted by maxx View PostAbhi is right...Sick to the OEM's.... Both work the W40 and W50.
Choose W50 for cooler climates, Riding in heavy rains, cloudy, and extremely dropped environment temperatures. I Guess you are in india. It should be raining I guess by this time of the year. Best time to try W50...You'll find you engine start at lower temperatures. While if you would have used W40...You would have got fed-up getting your sweety to start.
The W40 is specifically meant for indian summer. Hot and humit climate.
Choose wisely and according to Environment conditions.sigpicAll India Permit 1+1
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Unrestrcted Pitstop CDI for the CBZ
Hey...Its alright brother...Cheer up now...Originally posted by harryhunt7 View PostHey, thx for the reply. Me haunting u, no dude
just mentioned ur name since you had a good experience with throttle response after using IRIDIUM plug.. I guess Maxspeed will be alright then.
Yes, you are right I shouldn't have stated your & Joel's name with no basis and only my assumptions. I take my words back.
I am not getting a stock/OEM CDI for CRF150F but an unrestricted CDI meant for pitstop motorbike or Honda GY6 engine or any 150cc 200cc bike and compatible with CRF50 & CRF150 bike as stated by the seller. Let's see if it can work on a CBZ..
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But brother...That's what I mentioned In my post. Neither the Stock/OEM CDI would work with our CBZ and ZMA and nor the Unrestricted 1. They are meant only for the CRF's. I and few other have already tried to get it working but without any success. I am 100% confident it wont work. Your cbzeee just wont start, as simple as that. The difference between unrestricted and restricted is that the restricted have the stock curve which is more leaner and give's more mile's per gallons+ its limited to 9800rpm. That means even if your bike has more power due to an over bored engine, it just wont be utilized. With the unrestricted one, Its more richer than the stock + it would rev past the 9800 rev limiter than the stock, just if your bike has that much power to get that far. Check when you get it and post you reply over here, in this thread..."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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The oil that I have prescribed earlier is this thread was a race-oil. Made of 100% micron moly with paraffin base. Perhaps you wont get it in india. As for india, stick to the normal The 40 weight oil is indeed for summer and 50 weight oil is for winters. Factory oil's will give better and more stable performance maintaining their viscosity as sticking to the metal parts.Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View PostI think you have got it upside down.. W50 would work well for summers & w40 good for winters..
Vishnups: Also try to get your hands on yamaha lube..."At speeds of 160 Miles Per Hour or say 257.44Kilometer Per Hour You realize the actual speed of your life, Life is Supersonically Fast, Don't miss anything, cause you know it wont come back to you again"
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