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  • I am facing a weired problem since the past 3 k kms.

    Whenever I ride it in 4 th gear at 6 k rpm there is a grinding like noise coming from the front end of the bike. Something like a metal grinding noise or worn out bearing noise but barely audible in other rpm ranges. In 4 th gear at around 6k rpm it is clearly audible with a lot of vibrations in the handlebar and footpegs. It is not there in other gears.

    I went to pbk 3 times to fix this issue so far. Last time they kept it around one week but couldn't fix the problem. When I gave the bike the mech said there might be any loose fairings or nuts. I asked why it is only at 6k rpm in 4 th gear, he said the 4 th gear is the load gear of ninja . I got the bike back from them without fixing the problem. They says they tried everything like dismantling and refiting the whole fairing, tightening nuts etc but the problme is with the chain sprockets. Mech said I should change them to get the problem solved but it is still in good condition and can be used 10 k more kms.

    My bike clocked 19 k kms so far and the chain sprocket seems clean to me (well maintained with frequent cleaning and lubing with motul, always well lubed even after a rain). If it is the chain then why it only makes the noise at a certain rpm in a certain gear???? If it is not the chain what else would be the culprint??? I am really confused because the noise and vibrations are getting stronger and the warranty is going to end on this Oct 2012. If it is related with engine issues or any serious problmes, I will have a tough time when it is out of warranty.

    What will be the problem? Any idea guys???


    I have searched on a lot of forums including ninjette and found lot of guys are facing this issue but none seems fixed or the guys didn't updated on the threards.

    Found a video on youtube. Yes, I am facing the EXACT same problem.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se2AZvmiEF8
    Last edited by maheshkmr; 09-07-2012, 02:27 AM.

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    • Originally posted by kiran_borra View Post
      Old Timers... Blue Volt Sir, n_aditya, trustvishwas, kariznin... Need your inputs guys
      I had done my 3 rd service so long back, I really don't remember. (I am at 32k right now).

      However, I sincerely doubt that Pune PBK does all the valve clearance stuff. Their motto is not to touch anything that is not broken.

      Also I never stay in service center for duration of service.
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      • Originally posted by kiran_borra View Post
        Old Timers... Blue Volt Sir, n_aditya, trustvishwas, kariznin... Need your inputs guys
        Hey Kiran,

        Now my bike reading is 17K and during 3rd service i requested servic centre manager in mumbai and he refused to do any checks untill and unless I am facing any problems and little sluggishness and hard gear is common problem during 5-6k kms of after service
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        • Wow so the rumors of the 250 were all BS? or they have 250 for certain markets and 300cc for the rest?

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          • Originally posted by kiran_borra View Post
            Was wondering if this is still happening and would it be a good idea to ride down from hyderabad to Bangalore and get my bike's 3rd service done!
            Send Aditya a pm if the old crew at the Bangalore PBK are still there. Since I sold my bike, I have not kept in touch.

            While the valve clearance inspection itself is something which can be done with basic tools and the right kind of instructions, the complication arises only when you have to adjust the valve clearance. That requires a few surgical moves.

            If you are not sure about the Hyderabad service center, come down to nice Bangalore weather. The road is a dream too - I have done Hyd-BLR-HYD in a day trip with a lot of time to spare!

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              • Originally posted by kariznin View Post
                hey kiran
                hope you are doing good.. :-)
                regarding the 3rd service, am also planning to get this done this weekend as was feeling a little sluggish and had posted the query a page back but no one replied.
                i suspected clutch slippage to be the reason for that but the reason may be due to the expired engine oil. i had changed to 300v at 4300kms but now i have started facing hard gear shifts and roughness so that could be a reason for sluggishness. also in my case if there is some roughness even after that then i may require valve clearance or vaccum sync.

                here also they majorly do only oil change, filter change as a part of service but only when someone insists they do the necessary checkup/adjustment during the 3rd service.
                so only of you are facing some issues than ask them to do such things like valve clearance and all as its not good to touch the thinga that are going good and also if they touch i don't think so they are still not equiped so much that they may do the things as they should be done.
                so if your ride is going good then no need.
                will post the feedback after 3rd service this weekend.
                Thanks buddy

                Originally posted by trustvishwas View Post
                I had done my 3 rd service so long back, I really don't remember. (I am at 32k right now).

                However, I sincerely doubt that Pune PBK does all the valve clearance stuff. Their motto is not to touch anything that is not broken.

                Also I never stay in service center for duration of service.
                Point taken Vishwas Sir...
                Never Touch something which is not broken

                Originally posted by Kiran bhor View Post
                Hey Kiran,

                Now my bike reading is 17K and during 3rd service i requested servic centre manager in mumbai and he refused to do any checks untill and unless I am facing any problems and little sluggishness and hard gear is common problem during 5-6k kms of after service
                Thanks for the inputs Kiran

                Originally posted by bluevolt View Post
                Send Aditya a pm if the old crew at the Bangalore PBK are still there. Since I sold my bike, I have not kept in touch.

                While the valve clearance inspection itself is something which can be done with basic tools and the right kind of instructions, the complication arises only when you have to adjust the valve clearance. That requires a few surgical moves.

                If you are not sure about the Hyderabad service center, come down to nice Bangalore weather. The road is a dream too - I have done Hyd-BLR-HYD in a day trip with a lot of time to spare!
                Thanks BV
                I already did Hyd-Bangalore-Ooty-Hyd last year...
                Might be I was just searching for a reason to re-do this trip

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                • Originally posted by maheshkmr View Post
                  I am facing a weired problem since the past 3 k kms.

                  Whenever I ride it in 4 th gear at 6 k rpm there is a grinding like noise coming from the front end of the bike. Something like a metal grinding noise or worn out bearing noise but barely audible in other rpm ranges. In 4 th gear at around 6k rpm it is clearly audible with a lot of vibrations in the handlebar and footpegs. It is not there in other gears.

                  I went to pbk 3 times to fix this issue so far. Last time they kept it around one week but couldn't fix the problem. When I gave the bike the mech said there might be any loose fairings or nuts. I asked why it is only at 6k rpm in 4 th gear, he said the 4 th gear is the load gear of ninja . I got the bike back from them without fixing the problem. They says they tried everything like dismantling and refiting the whole fairing, tightening nuts etc but the problme is with the chain sprockets. Mech said I should change them to get the problem solved but it is still in good condition and can be used 10 k more kms.

                  My bike clocked 19 k kms so far and the chain sprocket seems clean to me (well maintained with frequent cleaning and lubing with motul, always well lubed even after a rain). If it is the chain then why it only makes the noise at a certain rpm in a certain gear???? If it is not the chain what else would be the culprint??? I am really confused because the noise and vibrations are getting stronger and the warranty is going to end on this Oct 2012. If it is related with engine issues or any serious problmes, I will have a tough time when it is out of warranty.

                  What will be the problem? Any idea guys???


                  I have searched on a lot of forums including ninjette and found lot of guys are facing this issue but none seems fixed or the guys didn't updated on the threards.

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                  what do you mean the front of the bike ? the sound seems more like from the engine side.

                  possibilities - gear problem ( some thing wrong / adjustment required at gear box or clutch )

                  check chain. put the bike on paddock and rotate the rear wheel. see if chain has even tension in all positions.

                  easy option (if it is the cause to rectify) is sensor trouble. but then it requires some good hands to diagonise the issue.

                  considering the situation we are in , if all other things are in order ride for another 1000 kms or so and see if it makes any difference.

                  as usual mail the u tube video to PBK pune and see the response. i will also try to ride my ninja in the same RPM / GEAR let me see.
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                  • Originally posted by kiran_borra View Post
                    Hey guys....
                    Coming back to this thread after a long time...
                    (Might be I was too busy riding my Ninja 250R )
                    It's been an year + with this baby and 11k kms...
                    It was a pure bliss to ride this bike and it still gives me goose bumps

                    Just wanted to get some information as my bike is due for 3rd service in more 1k kms...
                    3rd service normally deals with many more extra checks other than the regular service like valve clearances and adjustments etc
                    But here in Hyderabad the Pro-Biking center doesn't have any of that equipment to do that job and all they do is regular service (air filter clean/oil change and oil filter change)
                    I remember reading n_aditya's post long back regarding 3rd service being done perfectly at Bangalore svc by Prasanna...
                    Was wondering if this is still happening and would it be a good idea to ride down from hyderabad to Bangalore and get my bike's 3rd service done!
                    do not insist on any thing to be done even as per manual. let them do the service. in my case they did no adjustment on the engine. even if you do it any where else there is no assurance. any problems after wards you have to take the bike to your home town PBK only( they may not be very happy). its is a trade off.
                    Mountain biking on impulse with my wife and our bike goes down in water

                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/tourer/2...own-water.html

                    my saddle sore 1600k is official - the story

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                    • fuel

                      hi guys plz advice which fuel would be a better option for ninja.
                      octave 91 or octave 93?????
                      octave 93 can be found here in many parts of the city easily..
                      advice....

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                      • Originally posted by koolscorp View Post
                        hi guys plz advice which fuel would be a better option for ninja.
                        octave 91 or octave 93?????
                        octave 93 can be found here in many parts of the city easily..
                        advice....
                        correction, I think you mean "octane"
                        anyways I personally use the premium fuel from the oil companies which is 91 octane. Regular "speed" from BP, Premium from IO and there's one from HP, don't remember the name though.

                        They should be ok unless your asking for more. In that case you can try out 93 octane fuels. Haven't tried them enough to comment on the difference.
                        Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                        • A Dramatic tale!

                          Sand is not your friend!

                          Went for a group ride with my colleagues to Varkala Beach for a weekend break and after a night of partying we stayed the night and the next day thought it would be a good idea to go see a place where a lake meets the sea. Little did I know the way to this place was semi sandy and so I followed the guys in with my baby ninja. About 300 meters into the trail my front wheel lodged into a small sand pit and I frantically recovered from it pulling the bike out to the left side and as I was about to give out a sigh of relief, suddenly............... a bigger sand pit.

                          Oh ****

                          My front tyre sliced into the sand and the rear wheel pressed on flinging me onto the road doing a ballerina endo in full gear! And thus I got the first official crash scratches on my bike. But nothing serious though ( luckily ). So I started to analyze the crash and I was able to find out that since the Ninja weighed more on the front than on the back, the front cut into the sand much faster than the other bikes which made it across a lot faster than me ( i was doing 10-15 kmph ). Sure did succeed in making me look stupid in front of all the people there though lol. So unless you guys already knew this (and i'm talking about SEMI sandy roads )... For heaven's sake,... STAY AWAY FROM SAND AT ANY COST!!! XD

                          As for other news, I took a hair pin bend and scratched my outer silencer protector plate and even though it left a mark, that feeling was unexplainable. As for FE i'm getting 19kmpl since I almost always keep redlining it. I'm absolutely in love with the bike. Best decision ever!
                          Last edited by aeroblade; 09-10-2012, 01:20 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by aeroblade View Post
                            Sand is not your friend!
                            You should try riding on ice once
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                            • 2012 ninja 250R?? or 2013 ?

                              Hey guys, im planning to buy a new ninja 250r in bangalore.. but recently they have announced the new 2013 model of ninja!! but then when will it be out in India?

                              I had been to the showroom today and they told me that booking for 250r is closed! later he talked to the manager and told if u r genuinely interested then we can book a new one but it wud take one month...

                              He also told that 2013 model will be a 300 cc one and will be more expensive! my budget is not that much anyway .. and also they are not sure as to when the new ninja might roll on Indian streets..

                              so what will you guys suggest .. plz let me know ..

                              Thanks in advance

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                              • Originally posted by harikeshpk View Post
                                what do you mean the front of the bike ? the sound seems more like from the engine side.

                                I think so

                                possibilities - gear problem ( some thing wrong / adjustment required at gear box or clutch )

                                check chain. put the bike on paddock and rotate the rear wheel. see if chain has even tension in all positions.

                                pbk says they did everything. Chain looks good but couldn't check the uneven wear due to paddock stand unavailability. Will try to do withut the stand.

                                easy option (if it is the cause to rectify) is sensor trouble. but then it requires some good hands to diagonise the issue.

                                that kind of hands are not available here

                                considering the situation we are in , if all other things are in order ride for another 1000 kms or so and see if it makes any difference.

                                I have already done morethan 4 k kms after the prob arised. Initially it was felt mildy, only the rider was able to here that. Now it is loud and everyone can here it.

                                as usual mail the u tube video to PBK pune and see the response. i will also try to ride my ninja in the same RPM / GEAR let me see.
                                Will mail them soon. Thankyou


                                Yes, it seems like the sound is coming from the engine side. Very hard to determine because there are lot of vibrations in the handlebar and the footpegs. It is like a uneven scraping sound. Pbk tried revving it in 4 th gear using paddok stand and the sound was there. They said chain is the culprint and they are keep saying that. So going there again is useless. As you know, there are no other pbks in Kerala. Planing to show it to a local mech.
                                Last edited by maheshkmr; 09-11-2012, 02:41 AM.

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