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  • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
    ZMA/ZMR produce 18.35NM torque at 6k rpm but p220 produce 19.12NM at 7k rpm..there isn't a gap of even 1NM between both but rpm difference is 1k that's why ZMR/ZMA feels more torquy while riding..
    Guys p220 is 21.04bhp @ 8500RPM and Karizma is 17bhp @ 7000RPM.So the karizma will be 20.64bhp @ 8500rpm,Right? or am i missing something here? Please clear my doubt guys.

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    • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
      Guys p220 is 21.04bhp @ 8500RPM and Karizma is 17bhp @ 7000RPM.So the karizma will be 20.64bhp @ 8500rpm,Right? or am i missing something here? Please clear my doubt guys.
      bro the max power is 17bhp @7000 RPM ! so after that the BHP will fall and wont increase ! suppose now your bike in in 8,000 RPM BHP will be around 15 or some thing ( for example ) ! i will post a pic below check it out for reference !

      check out the pics below ! in first pic after the peak torque is delivered the torque curves falls down

      second pic is also similar ! after the peak BHP delivery the BHP falls in the higher RPM

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      • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
        ZMA/ZMR produce 18.35NM torque at 6k rpm but p220 produce 19.12NM at 7k rpm..there isn't a gap of even 1NM between both but rpm difference is 1k that's why ZMR/ZMA feels more torquy while riding..
        exactly ! the ZMA/ZMR produces 18.35NM @ 6k RPM and
        p220 produces 19.12NM @ 7RPM !

        hence the torque is delivered earlier in case of ZMA , where 220 takes few RPM more to deliver the same !

        thats why i feel the throttle is little crispier in my ZMR than my FI 220 !

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        • Originally posted by neeraj.juneja View Post
          today, i just managed to beat pulsar 220 with my zmr.
          is it the fact that zmr have greater pick up and torque than p220, or it's the quotation "It's not about the ride, it's about the rider"
          the thing is if its till 0 to 100 kmph The zmr might have pulled out the p220 with serious and perfect gear shift !

          but when comes to Highway battle ! i knew nothing comes in front of p220 !

          Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
          Wow..Great bro.. Its a true fact,Karizma has more torque than Pulsar220.
          As you said ! i have experianced it ! my home town is Kodaikanal ! the karizma is the best under the hills riding condition ! i felt this when i sold my karizma and bought the p220 before 3 and half years !
          and off roading capablities the ZMA was a treat for me ! which i really missed and felt bad in my P220 !

          it may be because honda's CRF230's engine breed !

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          • Originally posted by yash3 View Post
            the thing is if its till 0 to 100 kmph The zmr might have pulled out the p220 with serious and perfect gear shift !

            but when comes to Highway battle ! i knew nothing comes in front of p220 !

            As you said ! i have experianced it ! my home town is Kodaikanal ! the karizma is the best under the hills riding condition ! i felt this when i sold my karizma and bought the p220 before 3 and half years !
            and off roading capablities the ZMA was a treat for me ! which i really missed and felt bad in my P220 !

            it may be because honda's CRF230's engine breed !
            The first three gears of ZMA is close spaced while the 4th is 1 and 5th 0.8.....so you get good punchy pull at lower gears and once at higher RPMs, you get to coast smoothly....
            The engine of ZMA is the descendent of the legendary CRF230 which is still manufactured...Noteworthy is the engineering by which there is no vibration , even without any Balancer mechanism in engine.
            When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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            • Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post
              how much did this gladiator's chain guard cost you?
              100 bucks to be exact
              speed thrills but kills if you dont have skills

              Hero Honda PGM-FI service manual:
              http://www.ziddu.com/download/157801...EBOOK.pdf.html

              A real biker rides with other bikers,
              not against them...

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              • Latest snaps of my ZMR.
                Please take a look & tell how the graphics work looks ???

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                • Originally posted by yash3 View Post
                  so after that the BHP will fall and wont increase \ after the peak BHP delivery the BHP falls in the higher RPM
                  Can u explain this deeply?Why is it reducing?Peak bhp?,but still 3000rpm is still remaining.

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                  • @ yash3

                    Which is that modded pulsar at third pic?Do you have more pics of it?looks neat.

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                    • My ZMR is almost 7 months old now .The problem is that rusting has started on my bike's handlebar (the area below keyhole) and there are some minor scratches on the handle . I want to know that can i change the whole handlebar with clip ons under warranty for free before more damage is done ?
                      I don't brake rules , I merely test their elasticity ;)

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                      • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                        @ yash3

                        Which is that modded pulsar at third pic?Do you have more pics of it?looks neat.

                        that is my Younger bro's p200 ! modified with
                        Fazer fairing
                        P220 fork and handle assembly
                        RTR shocks REAR
                        IRC Tyres
                        safe ride ABS

                        etc !

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                        • Originally posted by yash3 View Post
                          the thing is if its till 0 to 100 kmph The zmr might have pulled out the p220 with serious and perfect gear shift !
                          but when comes to Highway battle ! i knew nothing comes in front of p220 !
                          As you said ! i have experianced it ! my home town is Kodaikanal ! the karizma is the best under the hills riding condition ! i felt this when i sold my karizma and bought the p220 before 3 and half years !
                          and off roading capablities the ZMA was a treat for me ! which i really missed and felt bad in my P220 !
                          it may be because honda's CRF230's engine breed !
                          It's because of torque , I would take the higher torque at lower rpm over higher bhp at higher rpms anyday . Everyone loves torque ! That's a beautiful place that you live in yash , love it .
                          Last edited by Pinaki; 06-07-2011, 11:39 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                            Can u explain this deeply?Why is it reducing?Peak bhp?,but still 3000rpm is still remaining.

                            17Bhp @ 7000 Rpm is The peak power ! which is produced by the bike !
                            Thus at one point the bike produces its maximum power !
                            so basically the engine cannot produce any more power above the peak !

                            With rising RPM's bove the peak, the energy produced by the bike rises at a faster rate than required ! hence the BHP falls at the higher RPM above the peak level ! And at one point the actual energy required and produced also equalized ( by pushing the bike above its limits ) then the Rev - limiter comes in for its duty !

                            so after the peak RPM some energy rises at faster rate and it its equalized by high speeds! then before ruining up things the rev limiter safe guards the engine components ! and its very strict in its duty

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                            • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                              It's because of torque , I would take the higher torque at lower rpm over higher bhp at higher rpms anyday . Everyone loves torque ! That's a beautiful place that you live in yash , love it .
                              thanks bro ! and now i'm very happy with My ZMR and FI 220

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                              • Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                                Wow..Great bro.. Its a true fact,Karizma has more torque than Pulsar220.
                                Originally posted by psr View Post
                                The torque definitely is superior and linear......but like you said " It's the Rider " .
                                Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post
                                +1^^^ The rider,everything depends on him.
                                I liked all your comments.

                                Originally posted by santoosh View Post
                                Numbers vise The pulsar has better torque
                                19.12Nm vs 18.35 of the ZMa/ZMR

                                The Pulsar is definitely more torquier , but the feel and delivery is very harsh compared to the zma/r.

                                The transmission is more superior and power delivery is linear making the zma torque "feel" more nicer...

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                                Every time i see your dp, i preassume it to be a real bug and just manage to escape a blow to laptop.;-)

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