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i'm cool sir, was just pointing out the facts thinking about the next 3 pages full of 2.8 to 4.9 second 'scores' :-)

speaking of chill is it warmer already ? went for a ride sunday afternoon and i was sweating under my jacket. still haven't done my long winter ride yet ...

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Yes sir i do!
There is not a prob with the shoes, have changed it multiple times. TVS ppl were helpless on this issue(as usual) Got it checked at CBZ where it it was partly rectified, but the cause was caught! It is a manufacturing defect with the rear alloy(at least that was what i was told!)..anyhow if i may have to change the rear alloy, why not get a disc brake on!(if possible, that is...)

Brother i have used dunlop geo-cruiser(120/80) for over 20,000 kms on my A150..now using zapper-q(100/90)..the dunlop has a amazing grip like no other! When I got zapper-q, the grip levels went down DRASTICALLY!Not what i expected from MRF! now i regret changing to zapper-q

I too feel removing the saree guard will not result in any extra vibes..i removed it 3-4 months or so after getting my bike!

Moreover, A150 is full of vibes so makes it kinda difficult to figure out when there are no vibes

Well, people are making full use of their 0-60 lap counter!Thats what it is there for!

precisely for this reason that i mentioned that there was no extra vibes in my rtr efi..

do you too feel the loss of power in the 2k-3k band like the others? how would you rate the reliability of the FI as to our old 150?

@all
Can some expert guide me on the rear disc part?? will it need welding in the swing arm?? what could be the probable damages??

thanks for the confirmation man. it's just that L.P. on the tyres thread said that the geo cruiser is the worst tyre and the Q is the best. guess sometimes stock is king.

there is a lug which is welded on the swingarm which holds the caliper assembly in position. note that the caliper is tightened using the axle bolt itself and the lug is only used to keep it in the right place. so distances/clearances and other factors will have to be taken into account. i also heard from the service center guys that the swingarm was lengthened in the FI, not sure, but if so then that could be a factor too.

Dunlop Geocruiser 100/90 report

He Guys just replaced the stock rear TVS tyre wid Dunlop 100/90 tyre . The new tyre has increased the overall diameter by 9 mm . My Observations on the new tyre after a ride to Lavasa City 50 kms fm Pune are as follows :
- the Gearing has changed slighty and so has the Handling
- there is lot more traction around corners ,
- Performance has improved marginally

@ Joel : Was going thru this thread and found u have put the Yam R15 Tubeless tyre on ur bike upfront . I`m sure it has improved the Handling of the Bike , but just wanted to know abt the speedo error as the R15 front tyre of size 80/90-R17 wud decrease the overall front diameter by 9 mm ? Thanks in advance

okay guys

I think im almost 90% inclined to go in for an RTR-Fi, after seeing an incident today regarding the R15 and the "aftermath" i am too scared to go in for one. its going to a pain to maintain the R15 and i cant be going 70kms to bangalore just to get spares. so the R15 is off. i lost 2k deducted from the booking amount but i played it safe.


now now coming to the RTR Fi, i havent ridden it, but i have ridden a RTR in cities (havent tested top whack and high speeds). and i LIEK it :P

Mileage - not an issue nor do i care for it. have money, will ride.
Riding Postion - I can adapt easily.
Vibes - Heh CBZ-Xtreme is a close competitor for vibes to this bike

I am unable to locate a RTR Fi in tumkur so i cant test ride it.

My usage:
well im blessed with a college that is SPOT ON the NH4 so 24 kms of daily commute to college on the NH4 and SH(gubbi) near tumkur.

touring - i WILL extensively tour with this bike.

therefore the requirements arise
- good straight line stability (braking esp)

- should not have strain (that is the bike, not me) riding aroun 100-120 kmph non stop for 100 kms. that is non stop gunning the bike on the roads. it should be able to do long runs without overheating and losing steam

- spares SHOULD not be an issue, I dont mind paying more but in case of HH, they simply suck in bangalore as well in tumkur. most of the times im fishing parts from the honda unicorn to put onto my bike.

-headlights
well ill be putting in HID kit in high beam anyway when needed for touring.

- Tyres
have seen the thread and will changing them as well.

- I never have pillions. they are too scared of the triple digit figures i do on the highways. :P :P

so any of you guys tour extensively on the RTR ? i have ridden it and i can live with what the bike is, although the biggest question is availability of spares. I do not want to wait for spares to arrive if a freak incident results in replacement of parts. cost of spares isnt an issue.

Main requirement as you can see is - peace of mind after purchase.

p.s i know tvs service is bad, but others aren't ahead by any good margin either

Dude.....buy a YO/Yash E-bike....it fits ur requirment perfectly

RTR can easily take all the thigs u said!

Things u need to live with,

1. Vibes - Not sure how good is the FI now but carb RTR's hve vibe issues...but if neatly maintained they can be reduced to gr8 extent.....add a synthetic oil to reduce it further

2. Tyres - Awesome tyres.........for burnout...never wearout even after excessive burnout.......change them and u get good traction, straight line stability and cornoring too

3. Spares are not an issue.....not sure if ur place has a good SVC which stocks them......but i think RTR has the costliest spares in the 150cc segment........damn man....barend weights cost 190bucks

4. The Famous Tappets - This is pure music to listen to when ur bike is boiling with heat....one piss off in RTR


If u can live with these then go ahead and fall for the lovly bass beat of the FI and mad nature of it accelration

ahem .. an e bike , with 74 kilos of my payload weight i dont think i'd be touring too far off 70kms - charge 12 hours - 70kms - charge 12 hours

anyhow , well synth oil eh ? i have to think twice on that, cause my cbz-x started leaking oil from the head and left side crankcase. I had been using AGIP full synth. back to mineral for now

I do not want leaks :P id rather change mineral oils at 1000kms and be at peace.

uhh have you (or anyone) got a link for the details on the FI throttle body of the RTR -Fi ? just curious :P

This reminds me tht there is no RTR - FI in hyd xbhp....damn....someone buy a FI man....showroom guys quote 37k for my bike without even having a look at it

I would say go for it except for that one big factor: (no, not vibes or character), the rtr is not a tourer. it's a racetrack machine. you cant help but enjoy yourself riding it in the city. but on rides longer than say, 250km, you will suffer.

however, you have said that you've ridden the rtr. if the ergonomics are fine with you and you think you will be able to handle long tours on it, then no probs.

stability is fine on the rtr, both solo and with a pillion. the shocks arent very great IMO, but it performs great at high speeds (120+). Speaking of which, you can cruise at 100-110 very easily. so the only issue for you is the riding position. if its fine with you go buy an FI. now !

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how is it that in these days of 50bucks/litre people suddenly don't care about fuel consumption? i mean, 5 years ago 100kmpl+ was all the rage. go figure...

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leave the clutch at 4500 rpm in first hold it all the way to 10000 rpm shift and you'll hit 60 at 10200 in 2nd.......
this'll show you 4.2-4.5 secs for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!

when its showed 2.8 i riv my byk at 5500rpm and so on ...after my complete of drag..high speed was 160 kmh....once again a error!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ah much appreciated.
but how much difference is there between one desi bike and the other ? my cbz-x isnt too far behind in performance and it handles well too.. the rtr has more of a racing position and is a more flickable machine .. im 5'11 but still im fine with the RTR. and yes love its grunt :P

about the fuel efficiency part , i know that a 150-180cc bike will have kmpl figures of around 40 to say the least and +/-ve 5kmpl or so doesnt matter. its not like i have $$$$ to throw around. i know i cant expect AMAZING MILEAGE figures.

If I wanted to tour on low budget id have gotten a bajaj boxer..

anyhow my main concern is availability of spares (esp the Fi version).
I do plan to visit the racetrack as well sometime in future hopefully :P

although one nagging point informed by satish was the RTR Fi isnt available in black colour , ill go in for the grey :P

guys...200kms done on the Fi

problems
>the bike goes into a false neutral when downshifting from 3rd to 2nd ..has happened quite a few times now..

>i feel quite a pressure on my palms after a 30-45 mins of ride.. is this generic?

Question: When does the bike go to neutral coz i have found at low speeds(6-10kmph) upshifting with a single tap from 1st to 2nd, the bike moves into Neutral..

and yeah.. the run in period is really painful