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  • Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post
    ......
    A good 2004 model ZMA which is 45k on Odo fetches close to 46k in Bangalore ......
    I have paid a marginally higher price than that for a Dec 2006 ZMA(yes well maintained example and is quite popular here in xBHP!!) from a fellow xBHPian(I hope he is not looking at this post ). I was almost about to sell it off last month as I am not getting time to ride it but due to a sudden job opportunity in Coimbatore(now I have a reason to ride it, many places around Coimb worth riding too and of course there is Kari Speedway!!) I didnt sell it. I am thankful to this new job that I didnt sell it!!!
    BTW, does the ZMA has higher re-sale value in B'lore (or) ZMA has attained a classic status???


    Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post
    .....I did'nt crash. Unfortunately, it was my dad. .....
    I just happen to see in your FB updates that your dad isnt well but I didnt knew he had a crash. I pray to god that he recovers completely in very short time.


    Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
    Guys, my zma after some headlight modifications.
    It reminded me of the movie Tranformers and yeah your ZMA is transformed!!!!
    Now I am tempted to change to projectors

    Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
    .....Thanks bro. Am using 2 p220's hi beam reflector(ellipsoidal) for ma hi beam. Total work cost me around 1.4k with out bulbs.
    Does that mean, you are using two P220's hi beam reflectors and one angel eye reflector? Is the angel eye reflector is just for decorative purpose or does it serve the purpose of low beam??
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    • @ vineeth:
      Do you have any WIP pictures?
      What do I intend to do? Stuff ZMR drivetrain into an Ambition chassis and watch others run scared!

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      • Originally posted by kkrk2 View Post
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        It reminded me of the movie Tranformers and yeah your ZMA is transformed!!!!
        Now I am tempted to change to projectors Does that mean, you are using two P220's hi beam reflectors and one angel eye reflector? Is the angel eye reflector is just for decorative purpose or does it serve the purpose of low beam??
        Thanks for those words mate. Yes ma high beam is from 2 p220. And the low beam one is also from from p220 am attachin a pic. Hope this solve your doubt. Angel eyes are seperate unit's bought them from JC road, Bangalore.
        Originally posted by Manoj76 View Post
        @ vineeth:
        Do you have any WIP pictures?

        Yes i have. But its not yet finished, lots of works left to do. As i said before i just fixed them in a half finished form. I've to cover the clamps and bolts inside using acrylic\ aluminium sheet. Its not visible from outside because i covered them using some temporary setup. Unit is not yet sealed. I've to use some silicone based formula for that. Once i finish all the above i will post step by step wip pics. Now lil busy with ma xam. So all these are on hold.
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        • Experts I need some help.

          Just got my zma serviced yesterday and my mechanic tells me the air screw is jammed and he's not able to tune the bike now. I can feel the bike is not tuned and the ride is a bit sluggish.

          Now coming to the point, i understand that it has to be machined in a lathe. Can somebody precisely explain what is to be done here?

          Also, I understand this is a common problem in zma or other carb'ed bikes and the other problem is the availability of air screw. Can somebody who's faced a similar problem throw light on this?
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          • Originally posted by suhasn46 View Post
            Experts I need some help.

            Just got my zma serviced yesterday and my mechanic tells me the air screw is jammed and he's not able to tune the bike now. I can feel the bike is not tuned and the ride is a bit sluggish.

            Now coming to the point, i understand that it has to be machined in a lathe. Can somebody precisely explain what is to be done here?

            Also, I understand this is a common problem in zma or other carb'ed bikes and the other problem is the availability of air screw. Can somebody who's faced a similar problem throw light on this?
            Man that shouldn't have happened, you know its next to disaster. Try to tune the carb. If one svc fail to do that then approach next one or give a try to some experienced local mechanic. Yes it can be removed with the lathe people and i've done this long back they will remove the screw using some machin and will rethread that hole but the new thread which they gonna keep to fix the airscrew will give you lots of issue. After a period of time that new thread will start leaking air(happen to me). Result is irregular ideal rpm and poor performance. Unless you don't know any proper lathe guy who can do the work in a top notch manner, don't do it. Somehow you try to tune the bike. Tell that svc people to detach the carb and try. Best of luck
            EDIT- hope you are from bangalore. which is that svc\garage?
            Last edited by vineeth aredath; 01-23-2011, 09:23 PM.
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            • i own a karizma

              the recommended drain period as advised by Hero Honda is 6000 km.

              but i do change at every 2000 km.

              when i told this to friend he told me that it is waste of money.

              Why such a big company would fool its customers and it even is not making any profit by extending the drain prd of 6000km.



              Please advice which is right to do?
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              • Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post
                Man that shouldn't have happened, you know its next to disaster. Try to tune the carb. If one svc fail to do that then approach next one or give a try to some experienced local mechanic. Yes it can be removed with the lathe people and i've done this long back they will remove the screw using some machin and will rethread that hole but the new thread which they gonna keep to fix the airscrew will give you lots of issue. After a period of time that new thread will start leaking air(happen to me). Result is irregular ideal rpm and poor performance. Unless you don't know any proper lathe guy who can do the work in a top notch manner, don't do it. Somehow you try to tune the bike. Tell that svc people to detach the carb and try. Best of luck
                EDIT- hope you are from bangalore. which is that svc\garage?
                Vineeth thanks for the inputs. But I have read about a few other zmaians who have faced this issue and have solved it. Hope it works for me too.

                I have lost trust in the A.S.S and go to Dream Machines in Sanjaynagar. But my mechanic there advised me to get this work done in the A.S.S itself. So planning a visit to Max Motors, Raj Kumar road tomorrow.

                Now coming to think of it, just wondering if my mechanic washed his hands off the issue.
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                • Originally posted by suhasn46 View Post
                  Vineeth thanks for the inputs. But I have read about a few other zmaians who have faced this issue and have solved it. Hope it works for me too.

                  I have lost trust in the A.S.S and go to Dream Machines in Sanjaynagar. But my mechanic there advised me to get this work done in the A.S.S itself. So planning a visit to Max Motors, Raj Kumar road tomorrow.

                  Now coming to think of it, just wondering if my mechanic washed his hands off the issue.
                  anytime bro, Am not againest the lathe thing but what am trying to say is that if possible avoid it and try your leavel best in tuning your bike. Afaik none of the svc people do this job, they will remove your carb and will send it to some shops in JC road. My carb had given enough headache to me and i don't want my fellow bhpian in the same. If tuning is highly impossible then go to some experienced lathe person and get it done under proper supervision.
                  Best of luck
                  Last edited by vineeth aredath; 01-23-2011, 10:55 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by abhilashabhi12 View Post
                    ......
                    ..... I was almost about to sell it off last month ......
                    ........ I am thankful to this new job that I didnt sell it!!!
                    After a long time, I got time to spend with my ZMA. The way it hit 100kmph(odo reading) brought a smile on my face!!!
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                    • even after i installed iridium plug, the cold start problem persists i.e needs choke on morning start. it though has improved acceleration.
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                      • [QUOTE=KARIZMATIC;567083]i own a karizma

                        the recommended drain period as advised by Hero Honda is 6000 km.

                        but i do change at every 2000 km.

                        when i told this to friend he told me that it is waste of money.

                        Why such a big company would fool its customers and it even is not making any profit by extending the drain prd of 6000km.



                        Please advice which is right to do?



                        change the oil at 2000-2500 km .you can see it for yourself while changing, if you look at the colour of the oil it is pitch black .if you drain your oil at 6k then probably you would need a new engine job thereby negating the loss of draining at 6k(in the svc ).

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                        • @ all,
                          My karizma R is close to touch 40,000kms..and it is 3yr old.
                          1. changed clutch plates and chain sprocket at 27,000kms.
                          2. replaced break shoe,air filters,spark plugs,cables(clutch,throtle a&b) and bulbs at regular intervals.
                          3. changed tyres (both) at 30,000kms.
                          4. Regular engine oil change for every 1200-1500kms (sometimes at 2000)
                          5. Replaced battery after 2yrs at 27000kms.

                          and finally, is there any special care or attention needs on engine after 40k kilometers? heard some where here.., the carbon deposits needs to be cleaned after 35,000kms.Also let me know if you know any best mechanic (i know one but he is always busy in showroom) for karizma in hyderabad for all future needs of my bike.
                          Last edited by koushikpmk; 01-26-2011, 03:21 AM.
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                          • Originally posted by koushikpmk View Post
                            and finally, is there any special care or attention needs on engine after 40k kilometers? heard some where here.., the carbon deposits needs to be cleaned after 35,000kms.Also let me know if you know any best mechanic (i know one but he is always busy in showroom) for karizma in hyderabad for all future needs of my bike.
                            yup the process is engine decarbonizing which one should get it done after 30-40k KMs.
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                            • Originally posted by suhasn46 View Post
                              Experts I need some help.

                              Just got my zma serviced yesterday and my mechanic tells me the air screw is jammed and he's not able to tune the bike now. I can feel the bike is not tuned and the ride is a bit sluggish.

                              Now coming to the point, i understand that it has to be machined in a lathe. Can somebody precisely explain what is to be done here?

                              Also, I understand this is a common problem in zma or other carb'ed bikes and the other problem is the availability of air screw. Can somebody who's faced a similar problem throw light on this?
                              Try applying acetone to the screw liberally,then spray on the screw WD40 a few times...this should work...
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                              • 52kmpl!!!

                                The best ever KMPL figures for my ZMA, I got was yesterday!!! Its freaking 52kmpl or (was it 46kmpl??) that too with a pillion!!!! If the reserve is 2L, then it is 52 or if it is 1.8 then FE is 46!!
                                I am still could not believe it returned that much!! (made me feel, my purchase of a used bike from a fellow bhpian was a paisa wassol transaction!!)

                                Here is a brief about the route taken and speeds:

                                Took the bike out of Coimbatore(CBE) Railway station parcel section(I have brought my ZMA from Hyd to CBE). The fuel was completely drained out in Hyderabad.
                                Filled around 30/- (0.48L) of petrol which I got in a bottle to the CBE station. Trip meter reading (20KM).

                                Onward ride:
                                Went couple of km, filled 200/- (3.12L) of petrol in the tank. Took the Avinash Road went to went to Avinashi. The speeds I did was between 55-75 kmph in the fifth gear for 30% of the distance and later it was mostly 40 to 55 kmph in 4th gear(because of traffic) with once in a while up-shifting to 5th gear. Distance to Avinashi was around 45km. I think another 1 or 2 KM local riding.

                                Return ride:
                                I had Suru (coimb xbhpian) as a pillion and to drop him at his home, we took a different route - Avinashi to Annur to Sarvanampatti to Hopes college thats around 50km mostly(90%) at speed 55 to 75kmph in 5th gear and once in a while(I think 10%) 30 to 40 in 3rd gear whenever we passed through a village or in the city. Just before Sarvanmpatti, the bike hit the reserve and the trip meter reading was 103.3km.

                                Calculations:
                                Petrol Filled: 3.6L (approx)
                                Distance traveled till reserve = 103 - 20 = 83KM
                                If the reserve is 2L, then the fuel consumed is 1.6L and the FE is 52KMPL or if the reserve is 1.8L then the fuel consumed is 1.8L and the FE is 46kmpl!!



                                PS: I did so much of typing because I dont want people to jump to conclusion that ZMA can return 50kmpl and the FE figures depend on riding style and traffic conditions!!
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