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  • Re: The Honda CB Twister

    350 Kms in 3.5 hrs means that you maintained 100 km/h speed all the way through.Sorry bro,I really feel like you are bluffing.

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      After riding this bike for near 3 years, some real facts.

      70kmph is the sweet spot for this bike for power band driving, the response is excellent, handling is aggressive and sound is awesome as I have removed the filterbox pipe.

      No matter how hard you rip, the worst mileage is 50kmpl, you cannot get anything worse than that unless you are stuck in traffic and keep the engine running.

      For mileage, the best speed is 55kmph, you get 70kmpl with some highway + practical city stop and go driving, just dont rev it hard and problem in occationaly touching 70 for a few seconds.

      The braking is pathetic beyond 60. The rear tyre will skid 70% of the time on very hard emergency braking even with wider tyres due to the lightweight body. Balancing front and back brakes is the only safe way without skidding.

      The Zapper C 100/90-17 which I used as a wider upgrade over the stock is of no use to avoid skidding. On flat hot tarmac, it skids if the braking is too hard. It is excellent for cornering though.

      Cornering on this bike is extreme. You can get lesser angles by leaning forwards while cornering.

      This bike runs even in top gear at 20kmph without knocking.

      You can keep the lead in a drag even with 150cc bikes till 60kmph due to the higher power to weight ratio and the city gearing ratio, after 60, you are miles behind every 135cc bike.

      Nothing beats this one in standstill traffic, you can zip, slide and counter steer into gaps and wedges faster than any bike.

      Overall, it is the king in the commuter class, worth every penny and no extra expense normally happening due to poor quality parts for other brands, but just the scheduled maintenance. Mileage depends on your driving style and you will never get stuck anywhere if you maintain it properly.
      Last edited by joseph.alukka; 05-20-2013, 05:21 PM.

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      • Re: The Honda CB Twister

        Originally posted by joseph.alukka View Post
        After riding this bike for near 3 years, some real facts.

        70kmph is the sweet spot for this bike for power band driving, the response is excellent, handling is aggressive and sound is awesome as I have removed the filterbox pipe.

        Overall, it is the king in the commuter class, worth every penny and no extra expense normally happening due to poor quality parts for other brands, but just the scheduled maintenance. Mileage depends on your driving style and you will never get stuck anywhere if you maintain it properly.
        Well said. This bike is underrated fantastic bike. The sales is not that much to its real potential.
        It is not very sensitive to climatic conditions, air filter block,weak battery etc. etc. Always starts in one kick and I really love this bike.

        Regarding the rear tyre upgrade now we have 90/90-17 tyre which is coming with Passion X PRO. It is almost exact match to stock tyre size(OD) with 10 mm more width and lesser weight than 100/90-17.

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          Originally posted by mrbabu76 View Post
          Well said. This bike is underrated fantastic bike. The sales is not that much to its real potential.
          It is not very sensitive to climatic conditions, air filter block,weak battery etc. etc. Always starts in one kick and I really love this bike.
          But since the past few months, this bike is very very common here. For every 10 bikes, 3 of them are Twisters here. And yes it is only silghtly sensitive to weather. The only change is the rise and fall of idle rpm depending on temperature. Never ever had an air filter block even though I have removed the filter pipe. Battery is just normal, 1.5yrs life for MF type. Wished the alternator was a little more powerfull to support a 35w HID kit. I really love this bike for the performance, mileage and reliability. I can just forget what Im riding and go on top of slabs or into small trenches and it is very very reliable for daily use.

          Regarding the rear tyre upgrade now we have 90/90-17 tyre which is coming with Passion X PRO. It is almost exact match to stock tyre size(OD) with 10 mm more width and lesser weight than 100/90-17.
          Actually, with the 100mm MRF, one advantage I got was the improved 3-5kmpl mileage owing to the increased tyre radius. The engine doesnt need to speed as fast as it used to earlier to hit the same speed now. Since I havent got a single puncture past 6-8 months with little offroading, I cant complain.

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          • Re: The Honda CB Twister

            Originally posted by mrbabu76 View Post
            Well said. This bike is underrated fantastic bike. The sales is not that much to its real potential.
            It is not very sensitive to climatic conditions, air filter block,weak battery etc. etc. Always starts in one kick and I really love this bike.

            Regarding the rear tyre upgrade now we have 90/90-17 tyre which is coming with Passion X PRO. It is almost exact match to stock tyre size(OD) with 10 mm more width and lesser weight than 100/90-17.
            mrbabu, i read somewhere that Passion X PRO has 18" wheels....which means 90/90-18. so may not fit on twister since stock rim on Twister is 17".
            Last edited by sachin1111; 05-21-2013, 01:59 PM.

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            • Re: The Honda CB Twister

              Originally posted by sachin1111 View Post
              mrbabu, i read somewhere that Passion X PRO has 18" wheels....which means 90/90-18. so may not fit on twister since stock rim on Twister is 17".
              Sachin sorry my bad. It was TVS phoenix tyre size 90/90 - 17 not Xpro's.

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              • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                Originally posted by sachin1111 View Post
                hi, here is ans.
                1)One member had fitted K and N filter along with mono shock suspension.....search for previous posts on this forum.
                2)NO
                3)Fuel tank capacity is 8 liters.....including reserve capacity of 1.5 litrs. Hard ripping should give around 50kmpl...so 8x50=400km is the range you can expect.
                4)there is no FFE available for Twister.......you can fit some aftermarket one at your own risk
                5) I have done 200km non stop 4 times without any issues at moderate speeds.
                Thanks for your response. What was your avg speed for the 200kms?

                Originally posted by rajaselvam_1987 View Post
                1.K&N will fit
                2.you can try stunners rear sprocket
                3.1.5L reserve on 8L
                4. Lot of After market kit is available
                5.I did maximum of 350kms in 3.5Hrs even bike was eager to go but I've reached the destination
                Thanks for your response. I am planning to use it for about 24 odd hours. That is why I'm more keen on overgearing it so that I can do higher speeds on lower revs. Acceleration is not on the agenda, reliability is.
                I understand the stock sprocketing is 14/42. What is the config on stunner? And is it the same fit, since you suggested to go for it?
                Also, it's pretty commendable that you did 350kms in 3.5 hours. Any mods on your bike? Because the fastest I have maintained is 126kmph on a 280km stretch in Rajasthan on a Ninja650. And those were arrow-straight roads. Please don't misunderstand me. My point is I had to do 140+ speeds to maintain that average and I'm pretty skeptical if the Twister can hold 110+ even.
                Last edited by dreamseller; 05-22-2013, 03:44 PM. Reason: MultiQuote
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                • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                  Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                  Thanks for your response. What was your avg speed for the 200kms?

                  Thanks for your response. I am planning to use it for about 24 odd hours. That is why I'm more keen on overgearing it so that I can do higher speeds on lower revs. Acceleration is not on the agenda, reliability is.
                  Instead of fiddling with sprockets you can easily over gear by up-sizing rear tyre to 100/90 if your tyre still stock size.

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                  • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                    Originally posted by mrbabu76 View Post
                    Instead of fiddling with sprockets you can easily over gear by up-sizing rear tyre to 100/90 if your tyre still stock size.
                    That is actually a good suggestion and was on my mind. But don't you think the gains of over gearing will be negated by the drag due to a thicker profile and (negligibly) by the weight of the tyre? I mean we're talking about a 110cc motor so these things do matter significantly IMO.
                    You are not a chemical. So think before you react.
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                    Been there. Done that.

                    IBA Number: 55404

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                    • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                      Originally posted by smartrider View Post
                      350 Kms in 3.5 hrs means that you maintained 100 km/h speed all the way through.Sorry bro,I really feel like you are bluffing.
                      Bro no need to bluffing. That was a scare less & death ride on every where i kept top speed of 105+. That was early morning drive so zero traffic. That's y i have achieved the target


                      Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                      Thanks for your response. What was your avg speed for the 200kms?
                      Thanks for your response. I am planning to use it for about 24 odd hours. That is why I'm more keen on overgearing it so that I can do higher speeds on lower revs. Acceleration is not on the agenda, reliability is.
                      I understand the stock sprocketing is 14/42. What is the config on stunner? And is it the same fit, since you suggested to go for it?
                      Also, it's pretty commendable that you did 350kms in 3.5 hours. Any mods on your bike? Because the fastest I have maintained is 126kmph on a 280km stretch in Rajasthan on a Ninja650. And those were arrow-straight roads. Please don't misunderstand me. My point is I had to do 140+ speeds to maintain that average and I'm pretty skeptical if the Twister can hold 110+ even.
                      No mods on my bike. After that ride only i've changed the tyre,

                      Somewhere on this site only i've seen the sprockets thread

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                      • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                        Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                        That is actually a good suggestion and was on my mind. But don't you think the gains of over gearing will be negated by the drag due to a thicker profile and (negligibly) by the weight of the tyre? I mean we're talking about a 110cc motor so these things do matter significantly IMO.
                        There is a myth that fatter the tyre, heavier the wheel and hence less fuel efficent. Actually, the mass is on a rotating body and so more the mass on the hoop,i.e, tyre, the more moment of inertia. As moment of inertia increases, the wheel holds spinning energy for a longer time. The downside is that the angular acceleration decreases. So it will be harder for the same engine to reach a particular speed, but once it reaches there, the bigger tyre will be more efficient. Take it like this - Need acceleration, use narrower tyres.. For efficiency, use heavier ones. However what you said is true regarding the drag coefficient, but again, the tyre in question is MRF 100/90 which is a) hard compound b)has a 90% profile of which only about 3cm wide part of the tyre touches the road on a straight line. The stock tyre is soft compound and almost the whole of it touches the tarmac. Another pro is that the radius of the tyre is more, so lesser wheel spins for the same speed. I currently run this tyre and got 4-5kms improvement in mileage over stock as well as about 400rpm lesser required to hit the same speed, so you get the benefit of overgearing as well. These are all what I have seen so far, decisions and ideas left for you.

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                        • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                          Originally posted by joseph.alukka View Post
                          There is a myth that fatter the tyre, heavier the wheel and hence less fuel efficent. Actually, the mass is on a rotating body and so more the mass on the hoop,i.e, tyre, the more moment of inertia. As moment of inertia increases, the wheel holds spinning energy for a longer time. The downside is that the angular acceleration decreases. So it will be harder for the same engine to reach a particular speed, but once it reaches there, the bigger tyre will be more efficient. Take it like this - Need acceleration, use narrower tyres.. For efficiency, use heavier ones. However what you said is true regarding the drag coefficient, but again, the tyre in question is MRF 100/90 which is a) hard compound b)has a 90% profile of which only about 3cm wide part of the tyre touches the road on a straight line. The stock tyre is soft compound and almost the whole of it touches the tarmac. Another pro is that the radius of the tyre is more, so lesser wheel spins for the same speed. I currently run this tyre and got 4-5kms improvement in mileage over stock as well as about 400rpm lesser required to hit the same speed, so you get the benefit of overgearing as well. These are all what I have seen so far, decisions and ideas left for you.
                          Thanks Joseph. Fuel efficiency is not a concern in this respect as I will be using the motorcycle for an endurance run. Just one more question: after you've upgraded the tyre what is the topspeed you've achieved? Also, what is the max speed according to you that I can hold on to without the engine suffering breakdown (given the bike will be ridden for 24 hours, with planned stops about 350kms apart)? Thanks again for your inputs.
                          You are not a chemical. So think before you react.
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                          IBA Number: 55404

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                          • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                            Originally posted by dreamseller View Post
                            Thanks Joseph. Fuel efficiency is not a concern in this respect as I will be using the motorcycle for an endurance run. Just one more question: after you've upgraded the tyre what is the topspeed you've achieved? Also, what is the max speed according to you that I can hold on to without the engine suffering breakdown (given the bike will be ridden for 24 hours, with planned stops about 350kms apart)? Thanks again for your inputs.
                            After this upgrade you can safely cruise all day between 70 ~ 80 kmph. It is quite torquey engine to take up 100/90 tyre without any complaint .
                            Don't worry go ahead.

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                            • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                              what's the maximum tyre dimension for twister?

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                              • Re: The Honda CB Twister

                                Is it ok if i service the bike first then change the oil by myself later?

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