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  • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

    Originally posted by arunkh View Post
    These accessories should I get it from the showroom or outside the showroom is a good option? Especially I am thinking of getting the pillion rest like in the cruise. It would be comfortable for the pillion to sit if its there right? Especially ladies if they are sitting single side it will be fine is it with the pillion rest?

    Headlight and tail grills I have seen a few of them in Amazon, thinking of getting them and installing them myself.
    hi
    You can buy them in local market but only purchase genuine BAJAJ parts. Pillion seat rest may not be locally available so can purchase in service center. Its very very comfortable and not many bikes have them.

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    Originally posted by arunkh View Post
    These accessories should I get it from the showroom or outside the showroom is a good option? Especially I am thinking of getting the pillion rest like in the cruise. It would be comfortable for the pillion to sit if its there right? Especially ladies if they are sitting single side it will be fine is it with the pillion rest?

    Headlight and tail grills I have seen a few of them in Amazon, thinking of getting them and installing them myself.
    hi
    You can buy them in local market but only purchase genuine BAJAJ parts. Pillion seat rest may not be locally available so can purchase in service center. Its very very comfortable and not many bikes have them.

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    • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

      Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
      hi
      You can buy them in local market but only purchase genuine BAJAJ parts. Pillion seat rest may not be locally available so can purchase in service center. Its very very comfortable and not many bikes have them.
      Bajaj has genuine Headlight and tail grills? I have been reading from previous posts and in general review about how the pillion seat is not so comfortable. I guess you have also modified your pillion seat a bit on your cruise right?

      I forgot to ask the most important question of all. I am 5'10'' tall, this bike will be comfortable considering my height right?

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      • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

        Originally posted by arunkh View Post
        Bajaj has genuine Headlight and tail grills? I have been reading from previous posts and in general review about how the pillion seat is not so comfortable. I guess you have also modified your pillion seat a bit on your cruise right?

        I forgot to ask the most important question of all. I am 5'10'' tall, this bike will be comfortable considering my height right?

        hi
        Rear seat is narrow and hard, you have to modify it to make it comfortable.
        Regarding height, I am 5,4" and it suits me well.This was the important reason to buy Avenger against RE or other tall bikes.
        You height of 5,10" is little tight for bike's height but I have seen many people riding it on road.No issue there.
        Bajaj dont sell headlight/tail light grills either.

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        • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

          Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
          hi
          Do not alter stock spark plugs unnecessarily.
          If you want to use other spark plugs, atleast its threaded part length must be same as original spark plug. Because extra length can tough piston head and short length can produce poor burning of fuel.

          kalpesh
          Originally posted by vvk1999 View Post
          30k is too much for a spark plug. U will not get better than ngk iridium plugs. Ngk G power is also good
          Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
          Avenger NGK Spark Plug model:

          CPR8EA-9 CPR8EAGP-9 CPR8EAIX-9
          Thank you.... Should I try MSD cable along with it for any improvement?

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          • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

            Originally posted by bencherian View Post
            Thank you.... Should I try MSD cable along with it for any improvement?
            G power don't need low resistance cables , stock cable is fine

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            • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

              Originally posted by bencherian View Post
              Thank you.... Should I try MSD cable along with it for any improvement?

              Hi
              Changing cable is not that required as its already providing more than required voltage, if you use NGK spark plugs.


              When you change spark plugs, can you provide pics of both spark plugs for our reference?

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              • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
                Hi
                Changing cable is not that required as its already providing more than required voltage, if you use NGK spark plugs.


                When you change spark plugs, can you provide pics of both spark plugs for our reference?
                Sure but first let me try in market sometimes I may have to purchase via online Amazon.in .. Am going for NGK G-Power,
                I believe Iridium sparks were good but they heated the engine very much, I could feel the hot air blowing on my legs during ride around 60km/hr

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                Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
                Hi
                Changing cable is not that required as its already providing more than required voltage, if you use NGK spark plugs.


                When you change spark plugs, can you provide pics of both spark plugs for our reference?
                And there are lots of FAKES plugs in market
                NGKスパークプラグ/NTKテクニカルセラミックス製品サイトの「Global Networks」ページです。

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                • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                  Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
                  Avenger NGK Spark Plug model:

                  CPR8EA-9 CPR8EAGP-9 CPR8EAIX-9
                  I just found this Avenger catalogue and it says it need 0.7-0.8mm GAP spark plugs... Will that NGK G-Power will cause problems? As it is .9 mm I guess
                  Am I causing too much fuss here ?
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                  Last edited by bencherian; 01-13-2017, 12:57 AM.

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                  • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                    After recently changing my engine oil to Motul 5100 15W50, I have noticed oil leak from the round black rubber seal just above the spark plugs on right side of the bike.
                    I could see black color oil coming out of that black seal.

                    Is this normal when we change engine oil?
                    And what are ways to fix it?
                    I know Bajaj is notorious for such problems, but it's a relatively new bike with barely 1,000km on its Odo.


                    Bajaj Avenger Street 220 - (Delhi)
                    Flickr Profile : http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrishi_sharma

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                    • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                      Originally posted by bencherian View Post
                      I just found this Avenger catalogue and it says it need 0.7-0.8mm GAP spark plugs... Will that NGK G-Power will cause problems? As it is .9 mm I guess
                      Am I causing too much fuss here ?
                      hi,
                      The gap is specific to spark plug model, 0.7-0.8 mm gap is specific for Champion spark plugs. So no issue, but as i said before, its threaded part length must be same.

                      Fake spark plugs is a reason I dont go for expensive stuff which can be fake some times.
                      Buy genuine Be Genuine.

                      Kalpesh

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                      Originally posted by Richardson's View Post
                      After recently changing my engine oil to Motul 5100 15W50, I have noticed oil leak from the round black rubber seal just above the spark plugs on right side of the bike.
                      I could see black color oil coming out of that black seal.

                      Is this normal when we change engine oil?
                      And what are ways to fix it?
                      I know Bajaj is notorious for such problems, but it's a relatively new bike with barely 1,000km on its Odo.



                      Hi,
                      I have this issue right from first day of my purchase.
                      I ignored it as its not that serious problem. Engine is new and thermal balance will require some running period and oil seal leakage can happen due to temp difference.
                      I will not take this issue seriously till the amount of oil leakage is under limits. If the oil leakage is more you have to replace oil seal by opening head cover only.
                      Its a small job but beware of tightening the that engine studs.!!! Never let a kid mechanic touch it because those kids tight those studs very heavily and damage internal threads. It require very delicate but enough tightening which only experienced mechanic knows.
                      Thats why I am ignoring my oil leakage problem for time.

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                      Do not use synthetic oils when engine is new. Use mineral oil and it should be 1.2 liters of 20w50.
                      Other grade oil can damage new engine

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                      • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                        Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
                        hi,
                        The gap is specific to spark plug model, 0.7-0.8 mm gap is specific for Champion spark plugs. So no issue, but as i said before, its threaded part length must be same.

                        Fake spark plugs is a reason I dont go for expensive stuff which can be fake some times.
                        Buy genuine Be Genuine.

                        Kalpesh

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                        OK then....Am going for NGK G-Power then

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                        • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                          As a mechanical engineer, I will suggest everyone do not alter critical components of your vehicle from OEM spec.
                          All specs are designed in benefit of vehicle life, vehicle safety, environmental emissions and performance.
                          Changing to different specs such as air filter/spark plug/engine oil, tyre size, electrical component,suspensions etc can perform good for limited time period but surely will not last long.
                          You must know what you are doing.

                          For example,
                          1) Changing from stock horn to dual horn without relay. In this case, dual horns will perform for a week or two, but will end into burnt switch or burnt wires.
                          You can do it by installing relay and proper wiring and you will need bigger Ah battery to take its load when all headlights ,tail lights are ON. You will need to change field coil which will charge that battery faster if you want full-proof system. Stock coil also OK but charging will take more time.
                          2) Installing LED AUX lights for extra light.It will also work but will drain battery faster than its charging rate! Resulting in low battery when you stop your vehicle at night because battery is not charged fully because of low charging rate. In this case, you have to use less Wattage LED lights and should switch off them few minutes before stopping so that battery charges as normal load condition. Bigger Ah battery will help here but will take more time to fully charge it.
                          3) Installing more wattage halogen bulb in headlight. (using 60w bulb in place of 35w circuit or 100w bulb in place of 60w circuit). Result will be rapid battery drain if its DC circuit or load on stator coil of its AC circuit.Also more heat will damage plastic holder.
                          4) Bigger Tyre: Results in more load on engine so consumes more fuel, clutch plate wear faster, braking reduces because of added momentum force of tyre, turning radius increases.
                          5) Spark plugs: They are designed/selected carefully considering Piston head clearance, engine working temperature, voltage generated by coil etc. Can be replaced with other spark plugs with same specs but improved quality of material.
                          6) Engine oil: Avenger uses 20w50 grade mineral oil. There are other synthetic oils available but grade should be same. 10W50 or even 0W50 can work in engine but engine life will be reduced because as viscosity is reduced, oil becomes more thinner and flows smoothly in the engine. But engine become hotter and components wear faster than if used stock oil.

                          Every change in spec can be benefited if performed with precision and quality.


                          -kalpesh
                          Last edited by Golden Cat; 01-13-2017, 12:28 PM.

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                          • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                            Those are some great tips...I didn't know the thing about switching off the auxiliary lights few minutes before stopping. Good job Golden Cat!

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                            • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                              Originally posted by Golden Cat View Post
                              As a mechanical engineer, I will suggest everyone do not alter critical components of your vehicle from OEM spec.
                              All specs are designed in benefit of vehicle life, vehicle safety, environmental emissions and performance.
                              Changing to different specs such as air filter/spark plug/engine oil, tyre size, electrical component,suspensions etc can perform good for limited time period but surely will not last long.
                              You must know what you are doing.

                              For example,
                              1) Changing from stock horn to dual horn without relay. In this case, dual horns will perform for a week or two, but will end into burnt switch or burnt wires.
                              You can do it by installing relay and proper wiring and you will need bigger Ah battery to take its load when all headlights ,tail lights are ON. You will need to change field coil which will charge that battery faster if you want full-proof system. Stock coil also OK but charging will take more time.
                              2) Installing LED AUX lights for extra light.It will also work but will drain battery faster than its charging rate! Resulting in low battery when you stop your vehicle at night because battery is not charged fully because of low charging rate. In this case, you have to use less Wattage LED lights and should switch off them few minutes before stopping so that battery charges as normal load condition. Bigger Ah battery will help here but will take more time to fully charge it.
                              3) Installing more wattage halogen bulb in headlight. (using 60w bulb in place of 35w circuit or 100w bulb in place of 60w circuit). Result will be rapid battery drain if its DC circuit or load on stator coil of its AC circuit.Also more heat will damage plastic holder.
                              4) Bigger Tyre: Results in more load on engine so consumes more fuel, clutch plate wear faster, braking reduces because of added momentum force of tyre, turning radius increases.
                              5) Spark plugs: They are designed/selected carefully considering Piston head clearance, engine working temperature, voltage generated by coil etc. Can be replaced with other spark plugs with same specs but improved quality of material.
                              6) Engine oil: Avenger uses 20w50 grade mineral oil. There are other synthetic oils available but grade should be same. 10W50 or even 0W50 can work in engine but engine life will be reduced because as viscosity is reduced, oil becomes more thinner and flows smoothly in the engine. But engine become hotter and components wear faster than if used stock oil.

                              Every change in spec can be benefited if performed with precision and quality.


                              -kalpesh
                              I agree with a lot of this.
                              However, just wanted to confirm that 10W50 or 15W50 shouldn't hurt the engine because eventually when the engine heats up, the viscosity will be determined by the later Wx instead of xW. For e.g., using a 15W50 is recommended for colder weather.
                              Bajaj Avenger Street 220 - (Delhi)
                              Flickr Profile : http://www.flickr.com/photos/hrishi_sharma

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                              • Re: Bajaj Avenger - All versions

                                Originally posted by Richardson's View Post
                                I agree with a lot of this.
                                However, just wanted to confirm that 10W50 or 15W50 shouldn't hurt the engine because eventually when the engine heats up, the viscosity will be determined by the later Wx instead of xW. For e.g., using a 15W50 is recommended for colder weather.
                                hi
                                10w50 and 15w50 oils will behave same at engine running temperature (80-100 dc).
                                But........10W oil will damage engine more than 20W because while cold starting engine, there will be more friction and wearing of engine.Until engine oil temperature reaches its operating condition,it take few minutes and we drive the vehicle at full load till that time. It means we drive our engine at low viscosity (thinner oil) which damages engine and we can face oil leakage problem because oil seals on engine expand rapidly and oil is thinner.
                                Thats the reason why low viscosity oil (like motul or other) cause oil seal leakage problem.
                                Even you can use 5W50 oil but then you will have to wait until oil temperature reaches to 80 dc before putting gears on!!!
                                Thats why Avenger comes with 20W50 oil which is relatively thick oil at cold start.


                                -kalpesh

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