If you want 60 kmpl in city, forget 150 cc category. Go for a 125 cc bike.

Dazzler is very very comfortable to ride in city; the stance is not like FZ and is very commuterish. Easy to turn in city and feels very light. I am sure your dad will not have any problems riding it. Dazzler will give 50 kmpl in city conditions.

Though looks are subjective, Dazzler looks good and once you see it more, you would love it.

If your father likes the looks of Twister, it is a great option. Excellent engine, great mileage and power combination.

Guys since last week i started losing braking power from the rear brakes and now its completely gone. When i took it so svc they said oil needs to be topped up but they were out of it. He asked me to get it topped at some other place but wherever i asked the mechanics refused to do anything with rear discs. Its a big safety hazard for me now. Can anybody throw any light on how i can do it myself?

Your bike is new. You should question them why the oil needs to be topped. Even if the oil is less (not far below minimum level), the brakes would work fine. If there is no oil, lodge a complaint with Honda on Honda website. This is a serious quality issue.

I too faced the same problem a week before the second service. The rear brake became week and almost zero effect when I took to service center. They got it rectified and till now(two months) I didn't face any problem.

those were just my opinions which if honda would have applied to d bike, it would have been PERFECT to ur irony....

u sound more like "oh honda u r my god" watever u produce i'll like it with al its demerit...i dint bought bike blind folded i knew wat i was buying...i jus wanted to keep forward my opinion fr d bike and wat al could have been added to it to make it d most desirable bike.... becoz of ppl like u we get understated thngs in d market.....

i agree to ur point that it has got one of the best engine in d country which feels awesome to drive....but thats not the only thng one opts when he pays such a huge amount of money to get himself a bike which shows signs of poor finished product.....

may be i've paid my fortune to get my first bike....thats y i'm expecting it to meet al my desired features....and moreover its honda, worlds largest producer of 2 wheelers and u dnt expect them to shows signs of some newbie in the market...u expect product to be of top notch.....

neways thanx fr ur input.......and learn to show some respect to someone else's thought and opinion.....and its not necessary to comment on everyones post...thank you........

I don't know why you are talking about disrespect here.I thought I was making a healthy argument.May be you have taken it in the wrong tone.We all are here to help each other out and develop our knowledge. Well Honda is not my god first of all. Yamaha it is. I din't mean to bash any brand or your opinions.
Its just the fact that, Honda has still has leaps to improve when it comes to styling. But quality wise no one can absolutely match them. I am still confused for the fact that you talked about poor quality plastics. There are plastics everywhere. But they don't or haven't created any problems. Which bike doesn't have plastics? Even superbikes have plastics all over. That was what I was trying to say. I also asked you to mention the problems (if you have any) you are facing with the plastics of the bike.
This was all what I was trying to convey.
If you, in any case find my opinion disrespectful, I apologize.

Put 2-3 drops of oil in the key hole. It should be fine then.

Its been only 12 days since I got my dazzler, and I have already started taking it to high speeds. Can't help it, as I often get the roads quite empty and the feeling to test the bike becomes irresistible. How will this affect the performance of my bike in the longer run? I think I will go and get my first servicing done within the next few days.

Dazzler 500 kilometer "Owership Review"

Background:

Got this machine on the 15th of Sept, in exchange for my Hero Honda CD-Deluxe, which was meant to be a "stop-gap" bike till I found a job and settled in Pune (After having reverse-migrated temporarily).

Bought it from YASH Honda (Hadapsar) because they had stock & contrary to popular belief, I have been on the receiving end of some very good customer service from the Honda showroom. The Sales person (Prashant) was very amicable and I did not have any issues throughout the purchase and delivery process.

Having said that, I don't have any service centre experiences yet as the bike is up for its first service tomorrow @Pashankar, Kothrud (nearer to my place), so lets see how that pans out.

The Bike:

1. Self-start

I'm "kicking-off" (no pun intended) my review with this as I've seen a lot of people express concern over the fact that this bike has "no-kick". Lets face it, I had my doubts too, in-fact, due to this factor alone, I was considering the CBZ Xtreme over the Dazzler.

So let us talk about starting problems. Well, there are none to speak of @ all. I use this as a daily commuter and I have never even had to use the choke in the mornings. The only time in the last 1 month or so that I did have to choke it is when we received delivery on my wife's Aviator and the Dazzler sat there over the weekend (2 full days).

So basically, if you use it every day or every alternate day, a single touch of the button is enough to get the engine purring eagerly.

Warm it up by holding it to on 1500 RPM for about 1 minute and you are ready to zap the streets. Its recommended that you keep it under 3.5 – 4k RPM for the first 5 minutes, but I’m still in the ‘run-in’ period so I follow that all the time anyway.

Will it still be like that after 5 years? That’s pretty much like asking, will mankind survive global warming? Well we shall wait and see!

2. Build Quality

This has been another common concern while going for a Dazzler. Personally, while I agree that some of the plastics could have been fitted together in a better manner (the digital console inside the ‘naked fairing’ or the exposed wires near the clutch for instance), these little annoyances can be easily fixed by the service centre (or by us) and if you look at the big picture, are a very small chink in the Dazzler’s otherwise solid armor.

Engine and chassis-wise, I think this carries on the same level of refinement that earned the mighty unicorn its heavyweight title in the Indian bike market.

2. Ride Quality, Handling & Acceleration

I have ridden the “Vanilla” Unicorn a fair few times and I have to say that if you compare the Dazzler to its predecessor, you will definitely find the old Unicorn to be slightly more stable and planted on the road.

The Dazzler, however, was the result of many people wanting a sportier, zippier bike which instilled the same level of confidence in the hearts of its owners as its forefather in terms of reliability & durability.

It weights roughly 10-12kgs less on paper & the suspension setup does feel a tad firmer than its ancestor. Having said that, due to a shorter wheel-base and a slightly sportier riding position, the Dazzler is a lot more maneuverable in traffic and you will always be thankful for this when the odd canines or ‘rickshawalas’ or other similar creatures decide to intercept you randomly as per their whims & fantasies.

As for acceleration, I haven’t actually given my bike “a-go” (so to speak) because of the run-in manners we are meant to follow. Having said that, even within the permitted RPM range, I can tell that the Dazzler takes off a lot faster than the Unicorn on an open stretch, no rocket-science required there.

To sum it up, I would say that while you really get the “shake-me-if-you-can” essence on the old Unicorn, the Dazzler takes some part of that and blends it with a “catch-me-if-you-can” flavor, and serves it to you in a nice frothy mug.

P.S After writing the above sentence, I now feel an insatiable urge to have beer ;-)

3. Braking

The brakes on the Dazzler are good enough to bring you to a standstill from a reasonable speed (<100) in a matter of seconds. There is a slight softness to the brakes and on my bike, I feel as though I have to press the rear-brake down too far for it to actually clamp the disk completely. My brake fluid levels are fine and the braking hasn’t worsened since I bought it, so I think this is an issue with adjusting the brakes to reduce the travel distance of the brake pedal. Will provide an update on this after my first servicing.

4. Fuel Efficiency

I’ve only tanked up twice so far, and while the first tank seemed to empty rather quickly (still @ an F.E of about 45), the second re-fuelling that I had, the meter shot up to 5 bars. I’ve done precisely 202 kilometers so far and it is now starting to occasionally drop to 3 bars (on inclines). There was a phase where I was starting to get worried over whether the meter is stuck because it just wasn’t dropping as I had expected!

With most bikes & cars though, at least older models, these meters are not linear (i.e. they drop faster in some parts of the spectrum than others). I would appreciate any info/insights people may have on this topic (relating to the dazzler).

Anyway, to sum it up I think its reasonable to expect an F.E figure of no less than 45-50 from the dazzler if driven normally (i.e. not in “Moto-GP” mode).


4. Minor Issues

1. Console vibrations at certain speeds. I successfully fixed this issue by temporarily inserting a small piece of rubber between the fairing and the digital-console (at the top). Having said that, I spoke to the service center about it and they said they would definitely take a look and possibly put some additional packing around the console to dampen the vibrations. If they don’t fix it, I probably will.

2. Slightly soft feeling while braking. I think this is a matter of adjustment and is also something that I’m hoping the service center is going to address.

3. Chain noise. I have some of this right now & I think my chain needs lubrication. This is an area on which I need some inputs from other owners (please see post-script at the end).



Overall Impressions

The Dazzler's looks emanate a certain sophistication combined with a charmingly brutish attitude. Its like a bouncer dressed in an Armani suit. It feels exactly like that on the road too. If you want to meet and greet, it will purr silently under the hood, but if you wish to take it head-on, its not too shy to loser its manners and give you a fair run for your money !

This is my first bike review ever and hence I certainly welcome constructive comments. (And yes I would really appreciate member inputs on the item listed below).


P.S:

I’m aware that some owners of half-chain case bikes use SAE 90 or EP 90 for lubrication. The Dazzler’s manual states that we use Motul Chain-lube. Has anyone tried the 90 oil for lubrication? Is it effective? Where would I be able to purchase the Motul product (Kothrud part of town) if I decided to go for it?

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@pyrotechnics - SAE90 oil is good enough for O-Ring chain. The only disadsvantage being that it make the rear tyre dirty after lubing. Chain Lubes are costly and will last only for 6-7times per bottle. Choice is yours.
Btw more than the lubing cleaning it in a proper way is more important.

My 1st can of OKS chain lube has lasted for the last 8k km on my P220. Still going strong. Lubing schedule has been 500km/7 days. The advantage is chain runs cleaner as compared with SAE90 as SAE90 attracts more dust as compared to chain spray Lube.

Thanks for the reply guys.

Should I use a product for cleaning? If so, which one?

Also, if you could tell me where I could purchase these products, I dont mind investing in the OKS or Motul one even if it means my chain is going to run cleaner and smoother.

P.S I'm located @ Kothrud, Pune, but pretty much any shop in or around pune would be super

I bought the "OKS Chain Lube Spray" From probiker @ MG Road. Google for the location.

From reviews, TVS Chain lube spray is equally good (if not better than OKS) and cheaper than OKS. It can be bought at any TVS Showroom all over the city. There has to be one at Kothrud. I know one at wakdewadi, another at Bhandarkar road.

Performance of Motul Chain Lube(Rs.800odd) spray is worse than both OKS(Rs.340odd) and TVS(Rs.250 odd).

P.S.: I keep a 100ml "Clinic All Clear Hair Oil" bottle filled with SAE90 at all times in my Tank Bag for emergency lubing the chain if I happen to ride too far(or on too dirty roads) and don't happen to carry the Chain spray along. Portable, Cheap(80odd/litre), takes up very little space, convenient to apply, does the job. Takes hardly 15ml to over-lubricate the chain with oil dripping all over .

Thanks dude, there is a TVS showroom near my workplace on Paud Road (went there to test ride the WEGO), I'll see if they have the chain clean or lube.

I'll see if I can get the clean & lube sprays from TVS, if they are equally as good (or better as you pointed out) than Motul or OKS.

Lol, I skimmed over this paragraph and for a second I thought you were having success using "Clinic All Clear" for lubing your chain ;-)

Speeds above 50KMph not that great!

I was trying to go above speeds of 50 kmph in my 3 weeks old bike and the first servicing is over...There is an unusual vibration in the whole body which I suspect might be coming from the engine...After speeds of 52 to be precise,the ride turns out to be very uncomfortable..I know that you are not supposed to ride above 50-60 initially..But on highways you tend to..

Is this my only problem or all the users?

When I asked the service guys,they said it is normal!

Please advise!