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  • #1936
    Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

    Lorenzo pushing his bike to the limit to ensure that he stays ahead of the competition and keep the title challenge alive is his fault. Right!

    It was a racing incident, fortunately no one got hurt.
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    • #1937
      Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

      Originally posted by The Monk View Post
      Lorenzo pushing his bike to the limit to ensure that he stays ahead of the competition and keep the title challenge alive is his fault. Right!

      It was a racing incident, fortunately no one got hurt.
      There is no refuting that it was indeed a racing incident but even racing incidents happen when someone makes a (honest) mistake. Expecting Marquez to slow down to let everyone pass would be unfair, however, expecting Lorenzo to stay on the usual/expected/tighter racing line is not an unrealistic expectation. I replayed it 3 or 4 times and I could definitely see enough space for Lorenzo, if he stuck to his regular line. I'm not suggesting that Lorenzo slammed into Marquez on purpose, but from what I see, it looks like his fault (he outbraked himself). Similar to what Marquez did with Pedrosa (and got a point); that was as much MM's fault as this was Lorenzo's.
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      • #1938
        Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

        IMO, MotoGP RD, Bridgestone, Dunlop and PI themselves should be awarded points!

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        • #1939
          Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

          Originally posted by dishayu View Post
          There is no refuting that it was indeed a racing incident but even racing incidents happen when someone makes a (honest) mistake. Expecting Marquez to slow down to let everyone pass would be unfair, however, expecting Lorenzo to stay on the usual/expected/tighter racing line is not an unrealistic expectation. I replayed it 3 or 4 times and I could definitely see enough space for Lorenzo, if he stuck to his regular line. I'm not suggesting that Lorenzo slammed into Marquez on purpose, but from what I see, it looks like his fault (he outbraked himself). Similar to what Marquez did with Pedrosa (and got a point); that was as much MM's fault as this was Lorenzo's.
          One cannot expect Marquez to slow down for Lorenzo and neither can one expect Lorenzo or Pedrosa to slow down for Marc to come up to speed. Both were going at it full tilt. Neither can be blamed. Not similar at all to the Marc-Ped incident. In that case, Ped was right infront of him racing him. This case Marc was coming onto the track from the pits and not actively in the race. Also Marc was not anywhere close to doing the same speed as Lorenzo. While in Aragon, Pedrosa and Marc were doing more or less same speeds. Racing Incident!!!

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          Originally posted by Makky View Post
          IMO, MotoGP RD, Bridgestone, Dunlop and PI themselves should be awarded points!
          If they could deduct points from Honda for a badly located Cable, then Bridgestone and Dunlop surely need to be taken to task. And not to forget Dorna as well
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          • #1940
            Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

            Originally posted by Makky View Post
            Don't know how many of you saw this one. Has a complete drama - MM's pit stop.

            For me, the most important thing other than the circus itself at HRC garage was that you can see Lin Jarvis speaking to Race Direction even before the black flag went up. Hmmmmm.... just more than prepping your bikes and riders for the GP.
            Yeah I noticed that part, Lin running over to RD for clarification, even before RD noticed Marc making another lap. But I'm sure he might have not complained, rather would have been his modest self like:
            Lin - "ah..are we allowed to take another lap? cos I feel we got Jorge in early..no?"
            RD - "No you can't do that, this is the last lap..you have to pit in"
            Lin - "Oh then I guess maybe Marc is going to come in to pit in the next lap?"
            RD - "what! Marc? he can't do that?"
            Lin - "Well he's leading the championship, he's ignored you guys in Silverstone."
            RD - "No he can't, let me speak to his team"


            P.s - this is all in fun, no offence. I don't believe or think any of that happened.
            Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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            • #1941
              Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

              Originally posted by Makky View Post
              Today's shit is here: .

              You need an account (free).

              I don't understand how can a camera man be inside the garage in times like this , first thing that they do is shoo them away from the garage. This time all the drama is in front of us !!!
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              • #1942
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                ^^^ Conspiracy Theory:

                Dorna after having spoken and discussed with Honda and Yamaha decided to make Marc do an extra lap, so that he can be Black Flagged, thus getting no points and making the Title interesting till Valencia! Thus increasing Drama and Intrigue and increasing sales as a result and making it a better spectacle for entertainment.

                Crashes, Black Flags, Controversy. PI had it all in abundance
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                • #1943
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                  Originally posted by The Monk View Post
                  ^^^ Conspiracy Theory:

                  Dorna after having spoken and discussed with Honda and Yamaha decided to make Marc do an extra lap, so that he can be Black Flagged, thus getting no points and making the Title interesting till Valencia! Thus increasing Drama and Intrigue and increasing sales as a result and making it a better spectacle for entertainment.

                  Crashes, Black Flags, Controversy. PI had it all in abundance
                  I hope you are just joking and I've always felt Motogp is no a nonsense sport. One explanation that I can think of is that MM is still a "new kid in town" and the team too is young, if it had happened to seniors like Rossi or Pedrosa or Lorenzo then there is no way that a camera man can be inside the garage. This is a clear case of the camera man sneaking in (which they are good at) when everyone was busy thinking about the whole situation!

                  About Lin: He sure was confirming on the penalty that MM would receive
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                  • #1944
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                    Originally posted by shelton_jh View Post
                    I hope you are just joking and I've always felt Motogp is no a nonsense sport. One explanation that I can think of is that MM is still a "new kid in town" and the team too is young, if it had happened to seniors like Rossi or Pedrosa or Lorenzo then there is no way that a camera man can be inside the garage. This is a clear case of the camera man sneaking in (which they are good at) when everyone was busy thinking about the whole situation!

                    About Lin: He sure was confirming on the penalty that MM would receive
                    MM is new, but his team is the same team that was with Stoner last year.

                    I'll go with Monk regarding the conspiracy. It's more thrilling that way.
                    Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                    • #1945
                      Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

                      Originally posted by R-series View Post
                      MM is new, but his team is the same team that was with Stoner last year.

                      I'll go with Monk regarding the conspiracy. It's more thrilling that way.
                      Ha ha ha, but please!!! at least no drama in this

                      Whatever it is I somehow get this feeling the kid is now going to feel the heat and going get a DNF next race, Lorenzo wins and the winner of the last race decides the Championship. That will be just too good to see both Lorenzo and MM go all out to win the championship and let the best win.

                      I see Lorenzo being intentionally hard on MM and I'm sure Pedrosa will also do the same when he gets his next chance, These guys (Lor, Ped & Ros) might be happily shaking hands and congratulating MM but deep inside there would be strong emotions running. Lorenzo usually a neat "passer" is not doing the same in the past few races specially on MM. The last two races are going to be a nail biter!
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                      • #1946
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                        Originally posted by shelton_jh View Post
                        Ha ha ha, but please!!! at least no drama in this

                        Whatever it is I somehow get this feeling the kid is now going to feel the heat and going get a DNF next race, Lorenzo wins and the winner of the last race decides the Championship. That will be just too good to see both Lorenzo and MM go all out to win the championship and let the best win.

                        I see Lorenzo being intentionally hard on MM and I'm sure Pedrosa will also do the same when he gets his next chance, These guys (Lor, Ped & Ros) might be happily shaking hands and congratulating MM but deep inside there would be strong emotions running. Lorenzo usually a neat "passer" is not doing the same in the past few races specially on MM. The last two races are going to be a nail biter!
                        Are you sure you are not part of the team that directs the championship. You have it dramatized to the T

                        It is so awesome to see Marquez forcing Lorenzo and Pedrosa to up the ante and take their game to the next level. Rossi is not fighting with him for wins, championships or even positions. Rossi is currently playing second fiddle to his teammate. I doubt if he minds Marc's antics
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                        • #1947
                          Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

                          Originally posted by shelton_jh View Post
                          Ha ha ha, but please!!! at least no drama in this

                          Whatever it is I somehow get this feeling the kid is now going to feel the heat and going get a DNF next race, Lorenzo wins and the winner of the last race decides the Championship. That will be just too good to see both Lorenzo and MM go all out to win the championship and let the best win.

                          I see Lorenzo being intentionally hard on MM and I'm sure Pedrosa will also do the same when he gets his next chance, These guys (Lor, Ped & Ros) might be happily shaking hands and congratulating MM but deep inside there would be strong emotions running. Lorenzo usually a neat "passer" is not doing the same in the past few races specially on MM. The last two races are going to be a nail biter!
                          Oh my god Shelton you're already making me wanna jump to Valencia with your ideas.

                          by the way, Honda still doesn't know why Marc fell during the Mugello GP while in P2. You got anything to do with that?

                          OK, let me contribute, picture this. Motegi is a Honda track, will favor Dani (considering Marc is DNFed as you said) and Jorge in 2nd. Vale 3rd.
                          So Dani cuts 25 points more out of 34. Jorge is in 2 points lead and Marc is 3rd.
                          Effectively, last race has 3 possible championship contenders. When was the last time this happened in MotoGP. Not since I'm watching.
                          Jorge now is feeling the same heat that Rossi felt when Jorge joined him. Remember Rossi said that he has to push more than he expected to stay with Jorge and beat him in the 2010 races. This time Jorge is being asked to push.
                          With all respect to all riders, that's the way it works. New breed to racers will always be better. Rossi made Max feel the heat . So this is inevitable, it'll happen again after a few years with Marc, maybe sooner.
                          Last edited by R-series; 10-22-2013, 05:20 PM.
                          Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                          • #1948
                            Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

                            Honda does faack up once in a while. Remember Pedrosa's tyre wraps' issue from the 2012 season?

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                            • #1949
                              Re: MotoGP 2013 Season - Updates

                              Originally posted by Makky View Post
                              Honda does faack up once in a while. Remember Pedrosa's tyre wraps' issue from the 2012 season?
                              Oh yeah, I remember that part. Misano 2012. The poor fellow didn't even finish the race cos he was forced to start from the back of the grid.

                              And then some satellite Ducati struck him in mid corner from the back throwing Dani away. That was his first DNF of that season.
                              Just because you haven't seen it doesnt mean its impossible...expect the unexpected.

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                              • #1950
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                                Originally posted by R-series View Post
                                Oh yeah, I remember that part. Misano 2012. The poor fellow didn't even finish the race cos he was forced to start from the back of the grid.

                                And then some satellite Ducati struck him in mid corner from the back throwing Dani away. That was his first DNF of that season.
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