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The leaner fuel theory is just some theory spun up by Rossi fanboys. Lorenzo is 1kg lighter than Rossi which makes absolutely NO DIFFERENCE for a 220+ kg mass going at those speeds. Pedrosa is full 14/15 kg lighter than them. By that count he should be the winner every single time, no contest. This is a very old debate which has been spun up again to defend Rossi. How come his higher weight hasn't been the issue all these years that he was winning and now that he's coming 4th every race, the fuel mix is to blame?

FYI factoids :
Rossi : 66 kg
Lorenzo : 65 kg
Stoner : 58 kg
Marquez : 59 kg
Pedrosa : 51 kg

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rossi has been consistent in his race. if he qualifies 7th also he will end up finishing 4th. has happened in last few races. the top 3 are no doubt Lorenzo marq and pedrosa. one seriously cant expect rossi to do the same things to a rookie marq that he did to pedro and lorenzo. come on give those kids to show their worth rather then asking a 9times world champ to beat the crap out of them. as every other racer rossi also might have drawbacks with the bike n all. the way i see it he is letting them have their golden times and just hanging in there so finish 3rd as still few more races to go. as the race proceeds rossi and marq get stronger and lor and pedro get weaker. there are few instances where lor and pedro give up at the end and rossi and marq push harder.

about the last race at misano, the GP guys were giving the speed and gear shifts details on the screen, and i noticed that while rossi used to be on 1st gear at few turns, at the same turns marq was at 2nd gear and later he over took rossi and pedro at those turns. this gives marq an edge over others at corners. confirmed with another motogp freak friend of mine even he said so.

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Rossi had been telling about the weight ever since Pedrosa joined the war. Now, I very well know that VR is 67 and JL is 65. Even I have doubts over the theory. But, when Mat Oxley publishes this, he 'd have thought about it. Millions listen to him across the globe. He can't just fake it.

In any case, stop pointing out fingers.

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I guess thats called timing the race. Best example is Moto2. Where Nakagami has consistently lost top slot in the last 4 races. Mid way through the race he opens up 3 secs lead, and then towards the end he always gets overtaken.

I guess with Rossi, he is past the prime and is there to draw sponsorship and money. I am a big fan of Rossi, but it hurts to see him just making up the numbers.

As they say, it is better to hang up your boots when you are at prime.

Just read some where Stoner is planning to quit V8 series. Is that an indication to something?

Heard the commentary yesterday while Marq and Dani were fighting it out. I heard them say at the end, Marc has broken Pedrosa. I guess yesterdays race was about one upmanship within Honda ranks.

Would be interesting to see Stoner come back.

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Just because some body does not post here does not mean, he is new to the sport or is less aware of things going around. Come on give us a break.

What about stop pointing finder?

There is nothing wrong in what was mentioned. You may be happy reading Mat Oxley's post, that does not stop any one posting here which others may feel is valid.

We are all passionate about the sport, and most of us worship Rossi. Almost all of us dance with joy when he makes progress in race. But of late his performance on the track is quite disappointing.

Humble request, lets try to be less bossy and enjoy this thread.

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Awrite, its not spun by 'fanboys', it was a twitter by mat Oxley.

Even Rossi or any of his crew hasnt stated this (murder English.. ).

About running leaner fuel. I think Cal and Rossi have problems, I remember once Cal stating that he couldn't keep up because he was running leaner mix.

Secondly, Moto2 is counting the combine weight , advantage, Redding, (start of the season). But there difference is too much and bikes make bit less Horsepower, I m just saying..

Anyways, I dont intend to defend Rossi.Fan, yes!!.

Lorenzo used everything to his advantage,good or bad, And Marquez was so unforgiving.
Good race by them, !!!!(I was wishing atleast Pedrosa to fall back a bit, )
No Offence

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No bossy issue. If someone thinks that I have written something wrong, just quote my name or my post. But, why post in an indirect way? That's all. Nothing more. Well, I need a break too!

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As I said, this is an old argument. You're right, this started in 2006, when Pedrosa came in. Since then, a ton of specialists (believe it or not, there are others apart from Mat Oxley as well) have agreed that the advantages and disadvantages of rider weights pretty much cancel each other out (and I subscribe to this school of thought as well). The heavier riders can corner easier, faster, don't struggle with wheelies so much and have an easier time getting the drive out of the corners (lesser rear wheel spin).

Lighter riders on the other hand have the power to weight advantage and accelerate faster in the straight line.

And as any racing enthusiast would be aware, a laptime is made/wrecked in corners, not in straight lines, so the Pedrosa camp even argues that the heavier riders have an ADVANTAGE and it's a miracle that he can even keep up with them.

Calm down. 3 people posted about leaner fuel mix and that was the ongoing topic. Surely you don't expect me to quote everyone in an ongoing conversation, do you? I'm not attacking you, personally. :\

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Actually, I haven't even read that tweet myself. I have, however, read similar opinions in comments sections of motogp news sites ever since Rossi ran out of fuel (was it in spain) first. And the fanboys vehemently attributing the leaner fuel mixture to Rossi's (relative) lack of pace.

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Asphalt and Rubber -


Wasn't the first time it happened like this. So, I had to.... Anyway, peace out.

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OK , now thats out of the way.

Rossi has been complaining about problems in braking, thats his strong point, u know, like Lorenzo's corner speed is very strong, but when someone messes his line, like previously Marquez did. It was tough for him to ride around and over take Marquez. Plus Lorenzo has found adequate set up for braking, which might not even be helpful for Rossi, cuz Lorenzo is very smooth on brakes, and Rossi needs more than that. (Atleast looks like it).

I read somewhere (guess some of commenrts, so cant be sure how accurate it is) Rossi using 2010 fork at Assen, if that is the case, I dunno why he wouldnt have continued using it.

Anyways, test today!! Lets us('fan Boys') hope he finds a good setup where atleast he gives a good fight, before petitions start circling in UK .......

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One thing i don't get: how come the the fairings and windscreen on a MotoGP bike are so spic and span after a race !?
On something travelling as fast a MotoGP bike one would expect it to be covered with dead bugs after the race.

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How in the hell one survives this???

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One more - This is Casey Not Crashing : Scott Jones: Landscape and MotoGP Photographer

An old entry but, it's very good.

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Others try and fail -

Cal to MCN

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NH and Ducati

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Does anyone understand why Yamaha can't trickle down the seamless gearbox to the tech3 boys yet? I mean, is it just an artificial delay or is there some legitimate reason behind it?

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No they are not that Spic and span as they look. In the Ultra slow motion camera shots you would see all kinds of sports on the from of those bikes. I especially noticed the repsols. So from far away and while these are running, they might not be visible, but I remember seeing many patches of dead insects on the front during that Ultra Slow Mo shot.

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Didn't expect that a BlackHawk today. Looks like they are gonna test a lot of components and different settings.



That tank looks a bit bulged on top compared to the regular. Isn't it?

Update - An early version of 2014 M1